Please help! TS form included

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Originally Posted by sergentjunk

He feeds everyday I think.

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WeedHound is a knowledgeable grower, and a fine lady.

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Woops! LOL. Sorry WH

*junk

I water daily 8-10oz. and when needed a lil more
keep them moist and hungry

that would be the life huh, no more work just wake lite one and go into the LAB, it will make you mad, mad i tell you wahahahahah.

another wonderful harvest :rastasmoke:

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Originally Posted by phatsesh101

I water daily 8-10oz. and when needed a lil more
keep them moist and hungry

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That's what I'm doing now just to sort of start back to square one, then I'll start a new feeding regimen. I need to get all the old shit out of there and just start from scratch...I think LOL. Seems to be the best philosophy so far!

Also, on cannn-uk.com I found a form you can fill out for your type of medium and it will tell you the recommended PPM levels for growing in coco throughout the stages of growth, but it can also include any type of medium. I can post the link if anyone is interested.

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Originally Posted by phatsesh101

that would be the life huh, no more work just wake lite one and go into the LAB, it will make you mad, mad i tell you wahahahahah.

another wonderful harvest :rastasmoke:

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Ya now that would be the shit. I just wanna grow stuff now...anything lol.

I'll post updates in a day or two with some pics.

Thank you!

*junk

Update:

Well seeing as how I've found three credible sources that are telling me that this far into flowering the ppm feeding should be between 800 and 1k, I'm going with that for now. Essentially hitting them with nutes and calmag, then flushing with low PPM and clearex, repeat, repeat...per the feeding schedules I have found for coco.
So I tried the feeding last night when the light came and 1kPPM, and I'll flush tonight. I checked this morning before the light went off and they(including the problem plant) looked pretty good.

I'll see how it goes and update with some pics. Coco is an interesting grow.

*junk

The good: These plants are doing great now.

4 weeks into flowering.

I found a solid feeding regimen to stick by and it seems to be going good. Considering my first grow, I'm extremely happy with these two fine ladies. I have no idea the strain, wish I could find out somehow. In WeedHound's hydro grow guide, it is recommended that Sweet and Hydroplex is used. I am not using any of those two now, but will pick up them up next week.

Thanks again for everyone's help...most appreciated.
Next post is the problem plant.


*junk

The not so bad, but better than it was:

The bitch of the bunch. She's been a work in progress but I think I have her figured out. There are still a few leaves not doing so well, but I'm thinking it's a remainder of the pre-existing issues due to my ignorance. Not that I'm not ignorant anymore LOL, just a bit more educated. I've done a few tests with her, one of them being skipping a day of watering. She didn't like it...not one bit, and she let me know. She is VERY expressive. I think she will be saved and at least yield a couple yummy nugs.

I am solely using RO water now BTW.

For the curious...I believe this was a culmination of a few problems: nut lock out due to poor PH(I think that's where it all started), probably some mag def after starting distilled water(now using RO water), etc. Treating coco like a soil grow...only watering a few times a week, giving the administered nutes time to harden and destroy some roots, also contributing to the lock out?? Point being is there was a myriad of issues going on. She's cleaning up though, flowering, and producing some noticeable trichs. Nothing close to the other two, but she IS producing.

The 3rd pic was how the problems were starting,,,then progressing to look like the other damaged leaves. Damage seems to have subsided.

To me, comparing these pics (taken 7-8-09) to the previous set (taken 6-30-09), both of this plant and the previous post...there seems to me to be some good overall improvement.

*junk

looks good, some times i get a female that wont conform to my program and then i just put her out to flower and she dont come back

Damn Phat...that's a bad deal. I'm not sure if she will yield much at all, if anything. What I'm most interested in (other than using her to learn from) is the seeds. I left the male in long enough to blow his nut, so they will all produce seeds I'm sure. But she is from a different strain I think....so that's my major motive in her.

*junk

Patience. You will lose some of the yield because of the seeds, (most of the yield) and it takes about 4 to 5 weeks minimum for seed to become viable.

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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome

Patience. You will lose some of the yield because of the seeds, (most of the yield) and it takes about 4 to 5 weeks minimum for seed to become viable.

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Thanks for the tip Rusty! They're into their fourth week now, and I'm sure there's another four to go...at least. I'm not too concerned about the yield other than seeds. The two good plants will do me fine...at least long enough to get through the next grow. It's all personal and I'm not a heavy smoker. I prefer quality over quantity, they seem to be very nice quality...at least better than I used to purchase. LOL...."Used to purchase", that's great. These are actually bag seeds out of some VERY nice stuff that I was lucky to get my hands on, and lucky enough to have seeds.

Thanks again!

*junk

Pretty cool, huh?

When breeding, best to keep track of what you crossed, label and store different crosses seperatly, note which pheno was best and breed those, to encourage those traits on the next seed run. Quality genetics will generally have less of a variation due to back-crossing.

Some seeds may be less developed depending on how long the residual pollen (throughout the growroom) lasted after intended pollination. (weeks?)

Got a strain name you can be proud of picked-out? (bagseed is taken, I think)

i am backing up rusty on the keeping of a detailed breed log one for just urself or us if you want to share :thumbsup:

breeding is funny you must watch for acclimatization and the degrading of potency all sorts of stuff but its fun get a book

now im doing a breed check it out. got alot of my info from marijuana botany robert clark

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Pretty cool, huh?

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Very.

Good infor Rusty and Phat. Thanks! Yes I'm keeping logs of everything and the breeding. I'm pretty sure the male and the two good fems came out of the same bag, but the one fem in question is from a different batch....hence the cross. I have no idea what strain they originally claimed to come from, so the only way I can keep track is to name the strains by the people I got them from LOL. Until I come up with my own as Rusty suggested, however...I have no dreams of this being an original strain. I'm sure the product of these two strains is out there somewhere...I by no means have an original product.

But I'll name it for the hell of it(if it's worth naming by the time the potential seeds grow), and yes...I would love to share all the info here with everyone! So when these are done, and if there are seeds...I will keep a detailed grow log for everyone to see what happens with this breeding. I will be keeping a detailed log next time anyway...but newly crossed seeds should be a fun experiment. Look for something in another month and a half or two months from me as far as a grow log goes. That should give these enough time to fully mature and get my room ready for another batch.

Thanks for the input! I like it here.

*junk

If you crossed it yourself, you have an original strain...and can name it as you see fit. It's not like you'll be selling them retail and need to worry about copyright infringement.

Here's a couple to get those creative juices flowing...
Grab Bag (bagseed)
Double Bagger (crossed bagseed)
Sergent Freebie
Drill Sergent
First Sergent (your first successful seed run)
Delta Force (force-femmed)
"INCOMING" (creeper weed that hits you like an incoming RPG)
Seperation Anxiety (where the hell did my key's go...?)
Premature Discharge (autoflower traits)
Friendly Fire (mellow Sativa)

Hmm...seems I've gone a tad overboard, but you get the idea, lol. :thumbsup:

LOL...not overboard at all Rusty. I liked those. The issue you brought before about "viable seeds" might be an issue. She's not flowering well at all and the seeds, if indeed that's what they are, are still as small as they were the first day I saw them. While the damage as almost all subsided...I think she's retarded...literally. She has grown only three fingered leaves, the calyx's are deformed, and just generally growing VERY strangely. Obviously sativa dominant, and was obviously very stressed early on...it seems to the point of non recovery. But I'm gonna let her fly, will require a longer flower cycle than the others if anything is going to be produced. She definitely has different requirements than the other two that I am accomodating...so it's up to her.

Other than that, the other two are looking great blooming into very fat plants. Bottom leaves are starting to lighten to a subtle yellow, working it's way up indicating the drop in nitrogen. The colas are about 2" in diameter, and there are smaller nuggets that are filling out nicely turning into little "mini" colas. Nice fat calyx's all the way around, very hairy, and very frosty. Good stuff.

I'll update pics in a few days so we can compare the progression over the past few weeks.

Thanks again!

*junk