Depends you know, I think a lot of the kids walking around in Anarchy t-shirts had no fucking clue what it meant. Their version of Anarchy was "no rules man! aaargh!", and I think THAT is a shitty ass idea.
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Depends you know, I think a lot of the kids walking around in Anarchy t-shirts had no fucking clue what it meant. Their version of Anarchy was "no rules man! aaargh!", and I think THAT is a shitty ass idea.
You could say Hitler and Stalin were 'allies' at the start of World War II.Quote:
since china and the usa are allies i doubt that
[QUOTE=mellow mood]yes, people think there are free with "democratic" governement. bullshit. who can be elected? me? you? NO! only the one that will have the money
no dude you got it wrong money means nothing to "them" because they have all the power, the only reson there is money is because "they" want to keep us under conrol "they" make shit up like the way :they" say that the economy is bad is just a way to scare you in to trusting them, the same thing happens with the news they make up stories about shit that can kill us so we look to them for protection, and we dont get to pick are leaders, sure we get to vote but have you ever senn what happens to the ballots, thats right you havent because they dont exist and neather dose democracy "they" made that up to, "they" pick the leaders but that dosent matter because people like the presedent dont even matter there is people that work for the government that we dont even know about, that are more powerful that the presedent. FUCK THE MAN
"fuck the man??"
go live in iran for a while and see what ya think.maybe it will suit you better.
[QUOTE=canna boy420]i totally agree with all that shit that this guy is saying..i know him but this muther fucker is smart when he wants to be... and THE MAN isnt the one that protects us and shit so fuck you amsterdam.Quote:
Originally Posted by mellow mood
lol
try living in india,you might find the caste system and dowry liberating!!
look im not saying that are government is the worst but they are still pretty fucked up, not only do they say were free and then put us in prison for spitting the wrong direction, but they treat us like shit all they care about is haveing power so they brain wash people, seriously have you ever watched the news and heard some of the shit they tell you every night they tell us that something else we enjoy can kill us, i saw a news head line that was "do skiddles cause VD" no bull shit is was on an ohio news station. so like i said before FUCK THE MAN :D
i have been arrested 4 or 5 times in my life including a felony and im not in prison?
this country gives people soooooooooooo many chances.if you cant make it in america in 2005,there is something wrong with you.
well ive been arrested to but i did go to prison for 10 years you know how hard it is to get a good job when you have been in prison for ten years i just got out a few mounths ago, before i went i would have probly said the same shit but "THE MAN" took my life away and for what because i had three oz's of pot, thats right i got put away for 10 years for three oz's of pot! and now since ive been in prison i missed my chances at an education, so now i have nothing no money no job and my family has left me i havent seen my mom since i was 19 years old and she still wants nothing to do with me, so just because you got lucky and didnt go to prison dose not mean that america is golden that just means that you lucked out. FUCK THE MAN :mad:
haha anarchy is a joke. i got a kid at my school who worships anarchy. i told him if anarchy was ever in place, i would be the first to bust his face in with a baseball bat and take his money and shoes. what you wouldnt want that? to bad its anarchy no one can stop me! alot of people think democracy is bullshit and yes i agree, but there really is no other way. americans have more freedom then they can even use. our forefathers were true revolutionaries. they left the britain tyrant, the most powerful nation in the world, started a small nation, and then defeated the british in war. if you want a revolution, read a history book. a revolution wouldnt change america for the better, as it may seem. to better america we need to get educated, know whats goin on around us, and more importantly than anything, get out and vote. not just for president, but for the mayor of your city, for your state senators and representatives, and everything you can. the only revolution we need is people who know what they are doing in offices. but they never will be if we dont apply ourselves. vote, run for office, write your reps., do whatever you can. PLEASE, peacefully is the only way to change things. we really need to change things, i agree, but anarchy and violence is not the way to do it.
Some things that i left out. Drug crimes are usually bullshit. I feel for you canna boy420. but seriously, if like ya kill someone drinkin and drivin then cant get a job, dont blame "the man". we need to kick this war on drugs out, its spending too much money.
Second, war is stupid, the recent 70 bil spent on "fightin terrists" as bush would say is worthless, and thats another 70 bil that we are gonna have to pay back in taxes on gas and shit.
Another thing, anarchy IS total chaos. i dont know who said its the opposite, but its not. When anarchy is in place, it means there are no rules, no government, so that also means that there is no anarchist polictical party, because anarchists beleive in no government. so know what you are saying before it comes out your ass.
Communism is a hell of an idea, but it sucks because the government gets too much power and usually ends in a dictatorship.
Some of you "revolutionaries" and "anarchists" should read some books. Maybe the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx, or Che by John lee anderson. it would educate you a lil bit so you can sound smart.
BTW, whoever said that kurt vonnegut quote- I also enjoy his writing. He is a lil strange, but hilarious and very intellectual and smart. anyone should grab one of his books. thats all peace out.
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Originally Posted by mellow mood
You do know what anarchy leads to right? Reigonal militias under the control of warlords. Yes, it would be greta to see the US splintered into warring factions, then have the Chinese take advantage of our weakness, staging a massive invasion. YEAH DUDE, ARARCHY YEAHH!!!
heh hydrizzlez got a point there. anarchy cant work (at least... not yet?) whatever man PASS THE BLUNTSs
Yeah kurt vonnegut is an amazing writer. I bet anyone who goes out and buys cat's cradle will enjoy it at least a little.
I hope the Government drafts all your ass's to war. TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT IS A BAD GOVERNMENT! We live in a fascist nation. Peace
lol hydrizzle nice post lol.
by the way jeff, i think your the dumb, because u seem to not know what real anarchy.
i bet you really thibk anarchy=chaos
read man. read about anarchy and talk to me again. because in fact anarchy is simply a world where humans are enough intelligent to co-existate in total happiness, peace and justice.
errico malatesta is a pretty good writer and revolutionnist
peace
Anarchy is the absence of government in a society that handles problems in a reasonable way. Anarchy has no law. Our human nature tells us that killing another person is wrong, and stealing is wrong. In an Anarchist society there is peace, tranquillity, and teamwork. Yes there may be many different drugs among us but we know right from wrong. In the end we all come to the same fate...death. So in the mean time.....Peace.
Anarchy could be thought of as the transition of one gov't into another... anarchy can never last for too long, cause like I said, the warlords would sieze power. Hell, I might even become a warlord.
Ganjamon, care to make a rational statement on why the US is fascist, or do you even know what fascism is?
fas·cism n.
1. often Fascism
1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
2. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.
c'mon,i was put in a concentration camp this weekend!!i have been oppressed in this police state!!LOL!
oh, and something last i wanted to say:
i dont beleive in communism because it attempt to your freedom. and anarchy is total freedom, considering your enough intelligent to live free.
in a communism society you dont even choose the job you wanna do, you dont veen choose what u wanna buy. its a real joke seriously i know someone that visited URSS in 1990 and he said that was really bad. anyway, all this to say:
ANARCHY!!!
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Originally Posted by mellow mood
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All the people I kid in HS that wanted an Anarchy type of world were, white, smart ass, suburban kids, who ran out of things to bitch about. Trust me in Anarchy ever did happen these kids would be the first to die. There would mass hysteria and paranoia. No regulations on food, water, drugs etc. Trust me it Would Not Work.
Everyone knows that, they are just being posers cause they heard some band sing about anarchy and they were thinking,"man the kids as school will think I'm cool and smart if I talk about anarchy and wear a shirt with that A thing on it" They are just talking out of thier stupid immature asses about something they know nothing about.
like the punks who wear the che shirts.
LOL, ya I bet they don't even know who Che Guevera is, lol, it just looks cool with the red star and all.... the only reason they bought is because it was on display at Gadzzoks or something.
XTC, we know humans arent intelligent enough for anarchy to be, but that doesnt stop me from beleiving this would be the best world possible.
thats all man. u just have to act like if u were in a such system. thats the way to work.
unless you were an anarchist you wouldnt understand what a facist "nation" not "government" is. maybe one day the world will be willing to work together and live the way we want. You have to work to live it is common sense if you did not work for something you would die, i.e. farming, machining, buying, selling, trading. we do all this today, Anarchy is the people doing day to day work for the earnings of life and not having to be governed. How come government officials are never drafted? How come the rich and famous are never drafted? you are blinded by a mask that you grew up with, when will you open your eyes and see that it is the people higher up in the government that rule YOU, everything you do is controlled by them.
Tell me what the difference is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganjamon420
Once again, if anarchy took over, there would be rampant looting and crime in the streets. Noone would feel safe travelling anywhere, the economy would grind to a halt. People would turn to local strongmen for protection, who would eventually form militias for protection. Obviously, this creates a dictator. Eventually one warlord's militia will win in the giant civil that would ensue, and a MUCH worse gov't than we have now would take hold. So.... explain again how the fuck anyone is supposed to get anything done when you run the risk of getting jacked?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganjamon420
OK, first off, we don't have a draft anymore... how the fuck would government work if we kept sending skilled politicians and buerocrats to die? What would we do, put Kumar the gas-station attendant, or Bob, the cement layer in congress, you fucktard? The rich and famous are never drafted because they are, as you said, rich and famous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganjamon420
Thanks for defining government, as if i was a fucking idiot like you. Face it, your just a stupid poser who knows nothing of what anarchy would really do. If you think THIS government sucks, why don't you try going to a 3rd world country, where people can't even get food and medicine you spoiled brat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganjamon420
n. pl. an·ar·chies
1. Absence of any form of political authority.
2. Political disorder and confusion.
3. Absence of any cohesive principle, such as a common standard or purpose.
NO COMMON STANDARD so YOUR standard might be peace, no guns, and love. But I would say... fuck that. Get a gun. Murder all of you. Take your money. Then move to somewhere WITHOUT bullshit anarchy. True communism is actually peaceful, and basically a perfect society. But due to the human nature of capitalism it will never work. For all of you who say fuck capitalism, here is the capitalist test. You grow 20 pounds of weed. You grew it for 500 dollars for everything.. electricity.. everything. Now, how much would you sell it for? 500 dollars? If its above 500 dollars, you are branded a capitalist. See, not being a capitalist is called being an idiot.
sure mellowmood and ganjamon and anyone else, anarchy on paper is total freedom and all that bullshit. just like communism was designed to bring equality to all the people. they both fuck everyone. fuckin start some anarchy bullshit around here. your asses would be the first to die, thinkin about fucking peace. fuck peace. anarchy does no fucking good. show one example where it has done ANY good. it never has so dont waste your time. its a joke. people would steal every last thing around, then it would get stolen from them. after that a group of people would go around with AR-15's and shit poppin our asses in the head. just fucking stop bitching about the hard knock life you have here in america and vote or something. we can change things in ways besides starting a revolution. sure peace is great, but you cant have peace without war. life is great here in america. anarchy would rock your fucking world for the 10 minutes that you would last. if you hate it here so much move to iraq, move to cuba, move to some other third world country were you can do whatever the hell you want. yeah you dont want to you are happy here but you dont know it. try speaking your peace shit if you were living in about half of the nations in this world, you would be executed. they would do it publicly too. it would be a show. you cant say that shit anywhere else but here. freedom of speech is one of the many things all you fucks take for granted. you wouldnt know if it was taken from you you would just keep bitchin about how you cant smoke a joint without getting busted or you cant steal jewelry whenever you want. "the man" is the only reason you can bitch about "the man". he gives you your rights and yeah he makes some laws that you think are bullshit, but you can change shit like that. write your congressman, vote, run for office, do something besides bitch and talk about peace you fucking hippy.
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nice!
wow am i getting bitched because i have differents opinions from you Jeff? whats your fuckin problem? im not a fuckin hippie
u guys dont get it. ANARCHY IS NOT CHAOS. GET IT?????
ANARCHY IS A WORLD WHERE HUMANS ARE ENOUGH INTELLIGENT TO LIVE FREE AND IN COMMUNAUTY.
being anarchist is just being humanist, its just a form of anti-capitalist. its caring about humans before money. its wanting a good world for everyone. its wanting to live in peace and to help everyone. Anarchy, thats it, only this. so who cares if it aint possible? who cares if you think im a hippie? im a humanist and i hate capitalist? what can i add? stop thinking your the truth yourself by bitching me i respect your opinions just dont talk about something you dont even know the fuck it is (yes yocass i think u have a wrong perception of anachy). even dictionnaries are wrong on definition.
its just coz the world thinks if theres no corrupted gay fuck government this is gonna turn into chaos. jeez anarchy alrdy existed in spain during the '20s
did u know that? ameridians lived in harmony. they had a chief but everybody was deciding the decisions. our own body is living in perfect harmony, a combination of anarchy and communism. if body is turnint too cold, few cells will get cold first so the more important parts can stay warm (thats why your fingers, head and feets gets cold first).
so thats all, stop fuckin bitching me and respect what i think. and plz read fuickin books before bitching me about things u guy dont even fuckin know.
jeez i tought ppl that smoked pot could be more respectful and open minded. i guess im wrong
anyway peace to all
well humans are evil and not smart enough to take care of themselves.
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Originally Posted by amsterdam
I agree wholeheartedly with the first part of that statement but think that humans are extremely good at looking after themselves. Its looking after each other where they fall down.
agree somewhat.
oh and yocass spare me your "if your not capitalist your an idiot"
thats the kind of ppl i hate. u may beleive capitalist if the best system, but i dont think that a world where 75% of humans are living in total poorness, a world where humans are caring about themselves way before others, and caring about money way before others, a world individualist, and more, is a good world.
u may like capitalism but i dont. i dont like the way we are all considered as consuming puppets, to make the system work. and your not agreeing with capitalism even if your in it. im not complaining. yes, i live in good conditions, but how can i look around me and do nothing? how can i look around me and see 100 000 humans, kids, mothers, fathers dying everyday. how can i be so selfish. how can someone own 40 billions of $ and keep it in his pockets? how can someone have so much money?
this is stupid. for me the best system would be anarchy, but a realistic system would be a anarcho-capitalism system, where the goal is the well being of humanity, where the goal is to share what u have, where the goal isnt to make money even is tons of ppl are dying behind it. thats all man.
now dont call me stupid because i dont think the fuckin same way as you. your the one thats pretty stupid if you think were all wrong if we dont think like you. im only sharing opinions, while you your talking about everything as if it was a fact.
people really are consuming puppets?
humans have behaved this way since the beginning of time.
capitalism isnt perfect,but its the best.
The problem is : there's no solution. Capitalism = pseudo freedom. It always ends up with ppl beign in classes (rich/poor). Anarchy = real anarchy can't work, they'll always be a leader at some point. commuism = it always ends up corrupted. Now if you reduce humanity to 500 ppl and teach good values. You will need to have control over these ppl so they dont go corrupted (as human becomes corrupted by nature), and then they're not completly free. And at some point you will have 1000 ppl on the island and you will need to expand since getting back to 500 would involve killing 500 (and controling birth is a kind of opression over one's freedom too). now you will have to expand and expand and finally get to millions of ppl and loose control and eventually get back to the same point : 6 billion of ppl that can't organize themselves because of corruption. Now you can find a way to modify human's nature to make them so they're always happy never angry and never corrupted. Make them so they can't hurt others, things like that. Then it would be perfect communism. BUT it wouldn't be freedom : evryone will be forced to be good even if they dont want to. There would be no diversity, no difference between ppl. And when you get evrything right, humanity will live forever. It'll be kind of : now what? we reached our ultimate goal what do we do we can live our lives, ok, but now what's humanity goal since survival isn't a problem now? evryone is identical so no genius so no research and then bye bye that need for exploration we always had. So still there we would end up like a machine that can stay on forever... with no freedom.
There's no solution, to be completely free, you have to be alone... but nobody likes to be alone, isn't it?
theres 1 solution: kill everyone!!!
lol jk