wish i could grow outside, its leds and cfls for me
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wish i could grow outside, its leds and cfls for me
blueberry looks nice dont it
jkilla generally when someone starts a grow log for their grow you want to avoid posting your personal stuff unless asked, its called thread jacking, just a common courtesy. You can start your own grow log in the growing section. Id love to see more of yourset up actually, you said your using cfls and LEds, Thats really cool :)
sorry new to this
As I am reading along in these forums, I realize that this thread belongs in either the outdoor grow forum or the grow log... How do I move this thread???
Ok guys, No one wants to tell me how to move this thread.. So I am back with a new problem. It seems that I have some yellow leaves.. Not to sure what to think.. About a week ago I gave them some nutes that may have burnt a few edges.. Not bad as it was only a few leaves.. and the rest of the plant looked good.. It seems the leaves that are turning yellow are all the oldest leaves way under the canopy.. Here is some pics let me know what you all think !!! oh and its only on the Big Girls....
It depends. If youve been adding nutes, how much, I add bloom nutes and I use 1/4 what it suggests and iv never over nuted just b.c this is my first grow so I havnt attempted to add more. I wouldnt worry too much about it, if all your plants start getting really deep green and the tips and edges of a lot start to yellow Id say lay off the nutes, but its normal, they get old and arnt needed, I just tug a lil on them and if they come off they come off, no biggie.
Thanks for the reply ENHANCED!! I think you confirmed my thoughts!! I kinda went a little heavy on the nutes.. But they should be allright only a few burnt edges.. The old leaves just dyin to make more room I guess ???
I wouldnt say to make more room, Im not exactly sure, but if you notice most plants around where ever you live, the leaves on the bottoms sometimes dont look as good. But Id say as long as your whole plant doesnt do that just be causious with nutes and check the ph of your water and soil if you cant.
Your plants fine. The lower leaves tend to turn color and fall off durning your grow. Grow room is defintly not your problem you have plenty of that outside. Nutes will cause burn when you use to much or if you dont PH balance the water after you add it. I always add to a gallon or more of water and balance it before feeding it seems to work pretty good.
Ph of the water as you want it 6.2 - 6.8 range.
The leaves that are yellow are normal and things look pretty good for a first time grow.
Just make sure you have scripts for ALL of your plants. Check your county requirements as most it's 6 per couny per script, don't be greedy or stupid and do more, if so, cut them down!
Thanks for bringing us along and keeping us up to date as it's great fun to see what others are doing!!!
let nature take its coarse.
Thanks everyone,
Lanie,I appreciate the wise advice, I am right with you on that I will not violate the law,:thumbsup: In my county six plants is the limit so that is what I am growing.. If I cant make it with six this year I better figure some indoor :D.. Being a first time grower and having way to much time I have damn near named every leaf...LOL So at times I need to back off.. But this ph thing is getting to me.. Seems pretty standard but I do not understand the fluctuations involved.. For ex last night I go out to my Barrel 55 gal check the ph 7.2 straight out of the tap.. It sat in the barrel from 0800 to 2000.. So I add 1 TBSP of ph down it drops to 7.0 then I add 1 more and it goes to 6.8 ok perfect right??? well I run out there at 0700 and check the ph well its 7.2 again wtf?? How does it go up and down all the time?? How long should I wait to check after adding the ph down??? once I add it I have a pump that re circ's the water and a pump to water with.. I turn the water hose and use it as re circ also.. so I know the water is mixed.. any suggestions.. Also could the fluctuation in ph cause the yellow It seems a few outer leaves are turning now:mad: Thanks again peeps for any and all comments:rasta:
Ok Guys something has terribly gone wrong.. It seems to be only in Big girl, Last night I went out to check and she looked sick.. The leaves are starting to yellow fast and a bunch of them.. Not just the inside leaves all the way out also compared to wimpy she seems real stunted... Not sure what I am dealing with, Maybe Nute lock,? or a deficiency,? as I read it seems the both have similar symptoms.. Hard to diagnose!!! so I went with my gut and gave her a flush to the best of my ability.. In a 45 gallon container 3 to 1 would be like 130 gal.. I dont have that much water so I gave around 40 to 50 gal of just ph water... I will watch for a few days :mad:
Im sorry to hear about your girl. Id say the flush was a good Idea, It is normal to have leaves around the bottom of the plant go yellow, Im always pulling them off as she goes, doesnt seem to be a big problem for me at least. Being outside could mean a bug issue, Ive herd some gnats have larva that eat at the roots? Check to see if you roots really close to the surface, maybe add some dirt on top, I actually found a lot of roots closer to the surface to I added an inch or two. I dont have any experience with nute lock tho, hope thats not the issue.
how yellow ? pics??after this last heat wave 100+ 4 5 days. some of mine were a little drup-e and yellow.all good now though.
W/ph down, add then stir. wait 5min then test . I like to bring mine down to 6.0 becuse it allways goes up over the course of its use {72hrs for mine}.agin im no guru but ive studdie under 1
Ok here Is the story In full!!! July 26th I flushed Big girl then I flushed her again this time with clear ex on july 28th so like 110 gallons of water Between the two flushes .. What a motha fuker so I checked the runoff PH at 6.0 to 6.2.. I am using fox farm Ocean forest soil.. The last time that I added nutes was on july 19th.. and that was 2tsp per gallon of grow big and 3 tbsp of big bloom per gallon.. I have checked and tried to maintain the water ph around 6.8 ..
The symptoms are the same on both of my big girls so I am trying to go through a process of elimination... First be dam sure what the water ph is.. Second no more fukin nutes.. Third flush the Bitch... and fourth figure out WTF!!!! I feel after hours of reading that I may have a Phosphorus Problem.. The other day there were some Leaves with almost black or purple looking spots.. And my good buddy plucked them before I could get the pics... The plant I say is so BLUE she looks GREEN!! LOL They both share the Burnt edges and the red brown spots all over.. with sporadic full yellow leaves... Also tonight I spoted some thrips.. So another dose of Azatrol.. My head is all messed up Im sure I missed all the important shit.... If you got an Idea and need some info Please let me know.. I need to fix the girls..
a few more pics
Dude, the plants look awesome man. Besides ur lil problem with the yellowing leaves, they look very healthy. Ur yard is very legit too, good setup.
I have the same problem with the water ph going up, but as a suggestion (which ive tried) since ur water starts at 7.2 add all ur nutes to the 7.2 water then check the ph agiain. It should drop due the acidity of nutrients and ba. I only did this on one feeding and didnt notice any problems, I dont have a ph pen yet so Im not exactly sure this will work. Could elimate the need to add ph up or down to ur feeding schedule. Idk, jus a thought as Im not a professional yet at growing but if ur willing to experiment a lil, try this on ur little plant or take some test clones.
leafs look to be cause by heat stess.
Are you on a muncipal water supply or on a well? The well water can change the Ph dramatically during to season, but most domestic water suppliers are right at 7.0 all of the time. Be sure to have a good methodolgy for stirring up the water before you use it and if you're using an electronic water meter, sell it to one of your buddies, and they are not too reliable.
If you are on a well then I would use flush on the plants about every 3-4 weeks to eliminate minerial / salinity problems with the roots, but that's dependent upon the minerals in your water. If you have a local water company many will test your water for free (aas then they think they can sell you the equipment to fix your water issues... LOL!!)
I always like the Ph test kits where you fill the vial and then check the color. You can't really screw up. Check it all the time you fertalize or water and make the adjustments necessary to make it 6.2-6.8.
What part of the state are you? (the general area / city area - me no want your stinking street address!!! LOL!!!) as I have found that specific plants in one area do much better than the same monkeys 15 miles away.
You've done a pretty good job for a first timer!! (Pat yourself on the back!!!)
The Fox farm feeding schedule, from my expeience, is a bit tooooooo much for a typical outdoor summer grow.
I have seen leaf's like those and I would NOT fertalize every other cycle, but maybe every 3 to 4th cycle as I've seen the same before, so just stop fertalizing so much and everything should look better shortly!:thumbsup::thumbsup:
It did get damn hot here... I still have some yellowing going on but the new growth is looking good.. I am on a muncipal water.. I am up in the far north sac valley.. at about 700 feet elev.. I do use the Hanna ph meter.. I have to calibrate every morning just to make sure the thing is working. " I really don't trust It" I thought the regular ph kit would be hard to read when you have all the dark water???
the leaves do look sunburnt
i live north of sac also and my water jumps overnight from 7ish to 7.6-7.8 but usually after i add my nutes its at about 6.5-6.7 with no need for ph adjustment
i think nutes should probly be in transitional phase now need much more p-k
i also use half strength nutes but i like the beastie bloom additive.
should be good!
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Hey noticed that green tarp on the one side of your fence. If i was to see that as your neighbor i would think it was kinda sketchy. Why don't you just buy some more of that privacy fence and stager it a bit so it makes the holes real small or not even at all more of a solid look.
I have to put that there so I dont have to see my neighbors garden:thumbsup: Out of 6 houses on my street 4 of us are MM growers kinda a small community.. I am the only one in containers though :D besides that is on the inside there is lattice on the outs:thumbsup:
I wish i lived in your neighborhood
very little nitrogen (Ocean Forest is typical of this issue), so when you get things going I like to make sure that you handle that aspect of feeling rather quickly.
The High Potassium and Phosp are ok, but can hurt to suppliment those with a bit of guano or FF fertalizers! I like their feeding chart's but be aware that these are for indoor use, so the timing is a bit off for outside use!
Overall, it look like you're doing a bang up job, especially for a first timer!!!!:thumbsup:
So you think I may have a nitrogen def??? I kinda thought that myself.. After this heat stress thing I ran out and bought all the books I could.. Now the heat is gone and the yellow seems to be more even and natural looking.. I just flushed my other big one on tues night... I was thinking next water to give them some juice.. Like 2 tsp per gal of grow big and some big bloom.. Or since I flushed would now be a good time to switch to the Tiger Bloom..? It does have some N and a good boost of P... I know in the past I boosted them with some grow big some damage but they made it.. Now are they even more hungry since I flushed all the good stuff??? I am trying to get on track I have 6 plants and they all are doing different things.. On sat the 1st I gave the little ones a shot of juice mixed real mild @ 1tsp a gal of grow big and 1Tbsp of Big Bloom they shot up severl inches :thumbsup: Thanks you guys I wanna kick ass @ this and have a good Harvest Ball!!!!:rastasmoke:
and right now you should be using the big bloom, grow big and starting to use the open sesame. You don't want to give them any large doses of Nitrogen at this point, as you'll be going into the bloom stage pretty quick!
Here's the chart,
http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/soilfeed.pdf
and start at week #3 for the doseage and then every 2 weeks move the feeding up, just do not feed every other watering, do it maybe every 3 watering.
Hey guys,
It's been a few weeks.. So I thought I would give an update.. All is well in the garden, It seems the clear ex flush really helped and the timing was perfect:thumbsup: to switch them up to Tiger Bloom.. The Big girls Are a about 1.5 to 2 feet above my fence. And the yellow is under control.. Thanks Lanie:thumbsup: Here is the latest pics Let me know what you guys think!!!
sorry guys forgot to add the bud pics or I guess preflowers:rastasmoke:
im north of sac and about at the same point in flower and adding some beasties now but no where near as big. late starter
they look really healthy the leaves you said were yellowing are probably just shade leaves not getting enough sun. when i'm evaluating a health problem with my plants I like to look at 1) the general overall health of the plant and 2) where the problem has arisen and 3)the new growth
I would just try and keep it simple from here on out and continue doing as you have been.
very very nice garden tho for your first time. the background scenery looks like my backyard. i'm sure we are in the same vicinity. I just wish I had privacy so I could grow out in the sun!!
Here is a few more bud pics
WOW, i havent checked this thread in a while, looking very nice!
I wish my area was relaxed enough i could do outdoor, those are some MONSTERS :eek:
Things look great!
My advice is to watch things like a hawk, otherwise they will tend to run off in the middle of the night!!! LOL!!!!
My other advice is to get a processing /drying space ready as it looks like you're going to have lots of work in the very near future!:thumbsup:
Thanks guys I am stoked. Just a little while longer.. I am now getting a couple refrigerator boxes all setup with drying lines.. And I have an old glass table I am going to use to get all the trimming done.. What's your guess on weight???
probly 8-10 but a lot of factors still, the longest little while ever. lol:thumbsup:
do you vend?
Well the buds are forming, I wonder if they will fill out.. The big girls have a quite a bit of space.. I hope they grow together and make some tight nug;) the girls I think are northern lights they are gonna be some big ol' nugs