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I won't ask, but we shall see in about 10-15 days lol. I'm really nervous because of the fact I have such a small amount of room that I might have to figure out another grow option lol. But I don't wanna get ahead of myself. :jointsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by Italiano715
How big is your grow room?
34" H x 39" W x 64" D .. from bottom of lights to bottom of the box. Starting to wonder if I should start the lst now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Italiano715
Welp day 2 of flowering the babies are looking good. Going to pick up the nutes in the next few days I decided to go with the Fox Farm Tiger Bloom and Big Bloom as a pair. I had a slight heat issue, but was easily resolved and plants are looking better. I let them get a little dry so I gave them a little extra water. I've been reading about topping and LST, I have 3 alt nodes on all plants, just not sure where to start. From the reading I need to wait for them to get another set of nodes anyway. Let me know your thoughts.
if your starting flowering, don't LST or top. No stress to the plant while it is in this stage at all!
Really from the reading I thought your supposed to wait for a week into flower then top. If thats not the case then I maybe hosed on height lol. But thanks for the tip, I'll leave them alone from here on out.
Nah you want to do everything in vegetative and stop about a week or two before you start flowering. Then if you LSTed them you release them once the flowering phase starts. Well that's how I read to do it. If you cause your plants any stress in the flowering cycle there is a strong possibility that it may hermie on you.
Yeah I went back and re-read it I was completely wrong. Welp I guess if I messed this up then I'm growing them all natural lol. I added my own yeast/sugar co2 jug as recommended from the faq's and forums. I did under estimate the smell so I'm going to have to look into a carbon filter on the output fan.
hell yeah, smells like bread rising or pizza dough rising....mmmmm I love that smell.... :cool::thumbsup:
Welp here we are day 28 flowering 4.. getting ready to pick up my nutes for flowering As I said going with the Fox Farm collection Big Bloom, Tiger Bloom, and Grow Big. They will get the first round tomorrow during watering. Right now they are all over 7" with lots of alt nodes. Leaves all have a pretty green color. Adding the co2 jug has helped I can tell. :hippy:
Ok just got back into town and wow they have grown alot in the last 3 days. They all have about 5 alt. nodes now, I'm starting to keep an eye on the top nodes for sex, I'm hoping to find out this week because I'm really running out of room. I have a few that kind of look to have pistols but then again it could just be new leaf growth. As I was taking them out to check the soil and get pics Plant B pic 2 slipped from my hand and fell over :wtf: .. I checked the stock and all the alt nodes and found no breaks or bad bends so Keeping my fingers crossed I didn't kill it. ....Mental note for next grow no more than 3 plants at a time in this box.... :stoned:
Ok well Pic 1 is my confirmed female I'm a happy parent. Pic 2 on the other hand I think is showing balls in the circled area. If you need to compare pics to the full size, they are lettered in order in the above post.
the ladies look very nice gso! congrats on the little girl, stogies all around! as far as the second pic, i wouldn't jump to conclusions. in my experience the males tend to show sex first. maybe she's just a later bloomer.
*crosses fingers*
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Shit well if that is the case.. I have 5 females the other 3 plants are now showing what pic 2 is showing. I thought I was coming out with 1 female the rest males... Looks like I may have to make a bigger grow box.. Funny thing the one that showed female first is one that earlier in my thread someone guessed would be the first male.. Sparks a bowl in honor of his new baby girl.
you never know til you see the sex organs!
blazes a blunt for ya new girl!
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Just plucked my first male from the group. That leaves me with 1 female and 3 no shows. Crossing my fingers I get atleast one more female from the group. They are all also coming very close to making out with my lights so I'm thinking I'm going to have to drop them down a little more. I've started to come to realize all the flaws I've made with this grow.. I now have a list of things to do while in veg and when moving to flower to help me on my next grow.
Veg them too long eh? That was one of the first things I though about when I started was how much are they going to stretch during flowering. Crazy how big they get with the switch of the lights. I'm having to move mine up every day just about.
Hope your 3 no shows are some lovely ladies! :thumbsup:
Its not a height issue, they have plenty of room there is more "elbow" room they are having issues with all the leaves in a way over lap each other. That and I didn't lst or train them at all during veg like I should have and just let them grow all natural. I'm doing some reading and I'm wondering when I can start taking off bottom leaves.
if they are not getting any light and dying off you can either wait until they fall off or give them a light tug. just be careful pruning in flower as you could possibly get some herms.
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Ok so I'm 12 days into flowering and have only had 2 show sex... at what point should I start worrying about the other plants?
how long did you veg for? they made need a few more days to mature.
I vegged for 3 weeks.
did your plants have opposite leaves?
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Yeah, all but one and it was the one that went male.
Ok welp nothing to worry about now. they have all showed sex, I now have 3 females and 2 males.. Now its time to baby them so I get some nice bud in a few months.
I ment to post these pics in that last post but forgot.. Pic 1 is my other confirmed male. pic 2 is one of the other females. The third female is still early but I do see small pistols growing close to the stem but to small to get a good pic. Anywho cheers :stoned:
Ok seriously done updating for the day .. Just a big day and kind of excited.
Ok, well the plants are all about 7" from the bottom of the lights which is concerning because I know I still have a lot of growing left. I'm wondering if I could start a scrog of some sort to stop them from getting to much closer to the lights. Any feedback would be great.
Those looks great! I love that soil mix, has never let me down. :thumbsup:
On the height issue. Those will grow more than 7 inches that you have left. I know you are using the tub on the bottom most likely for the issue of keeping it absolutely dark when it should be dark. BUT since they are in flower already, lst or any other method would probably hurt your yield. So....
Do what I did, just use the top of the setup, where the lights are and place the plants in a closet or somewhere you can keep it dark. Now, you can move your tub up as high as you need it just by propping it up ( put boxes or anything really on the side of the plants to set the tub on). You'll have to keep them in a dark place to control the dark periods but that's the only way I see you fixing the grow space problem.:stoned:
Yeah its a great soil mix, I'll be using it again. Thanks for the info, My plan is to keep using both sides of the tub, but put hooks on top of the lid and on the ceiling above it and use a chain to raise and lower the lid. And use white poster board to wrap around the tub to keep light out. I'm debating on if I should repot them or not at this point because I was reading if you keep them in smaller pots they will start smaller because the root system doesn't have anywhere to go. I'll have new pics tomorrow when the new camera gets in.
The idea is to use a small pot to start and gradually increase the size as they get bigger (not allowing it to get rootbound though). Why? Well, the lady will use more of the soil up than if you were to put it in a bigger pot to start with. The roots will move down and to the sides of the pot then chill and soak up water. You DON'T want them to be root bound though.
As to whether or not you should repot or not, I don't know. If you are to do it, I'd do it ASAP, before they get further into flower. I transplant once sex shows, so I technically transplant in flower but a lot of people don't.
Ok so it seems like its been a few days since I updated. Had a little scare when watering them yesterday plant B(pic2) all her leaves were super droopy and soil was bone dry gave her a liter of water over a few minutes so the soil would soak in as much as possible. Plant E(pic3) is showing sex, but seems to be a few days behind the rest. Other than that they are doing amazing here are some pics.
I've decided to go against transplanting this late in the game and to help with the height issue I will soon run into I've setup the top of the grow tub so it can be lifted up as needed and I'll use white poster board to wrap around the gaps.
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Ok back from a weekend away and wow the growth has been amazing. All the plants are about 1.5 ft tall with lots of bud sites. I'm starting to wonder if I could safely remove some fan leaves without majorly hurting the plants? I made some changes to the grow box, i removed the bottom tub and have the top tub suspended above to adjust for height and allow me to space them out a little more they were very snug and over lapping with the base. I also put 2 desk lamps on the ground aiming up into the top to give the bottom bud sites more light. So far following the FF feeding schedule has worked perfect no nute burn or lock as far as I can tell. Any comments more than welcome.
I wouldn't be worried about pruning its never done harm to my plants that I can tell. just do it all at once. I like to 'lollipop' my plants. every node i take everything off the bottom 1/3
but wow everything looks great can't believe those are in a rubbermaid. great work gsosure :thumbsup:
Thanks for the info. Took me a min. to figure out what you ment by lollipop, but I think its a little to late now, almost all the lower branches have bud sites and I'd hate to cut them. I was thinking of going and just triming all the fan leaves that are in the way out. think that would do anything? Just trying to figure out how to give them more light and room.
Ok well made some changes to the grow room to give me some more height and that seems to have helped a lot. I did notice that on all the plants the top like 6 stems of fan leaves are red on top but green on bottom (pic 4) I was thinking it could be temp issues at night the box gets down to upper 60's and lower 70's. Other than that the plants are looking amazing starting to see lots of bud points and trichs forming. cheers all :hippy:
Wonderful! Things are looking lovely m8! Can't wait for the following weeks! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by gsosure
I wouldn't worry about the purple stems. I've looked for answers on that myself and find all kinds of answers. Some being phosphorus def., stems just go purple in some strains when they enter flower, etc. It could be due to the soil because I use the same soil and I get it EVERYTIME. The way I dealt with it although I never worried about it was to put more ph down in my water (my tap water is off the charts, its very alkaline).
I honestly think it helped. My new growth would always be green and lacking the purple. So my advice would be to check your ph run off and water ph. But all in all, it's nothing to worry about.:stoned:
Yeah thats what I was getting as well when I was searching so I figured well I have a few subscribers I'll post a pic and get their opinion. I don't use tap water because I won't even drink it so no way I'm letting my plants have it, I buy pre ph'd water from the local fish store 6.5 - 7 every time. ( yeah I know I'm crazy) Thanks for the reassurance that its nothing to worry about, the rest of the leaves and plant look amazing so I'll just mark it up to nature. I added a new Co2 jug yesterday as well and I swear the bug spots just blew up over night and they got much taller one is about 4 " from kissing the lights. Temps were a little warm this morning sitting at about 81', but they aren't canoeing or anything so I think my temp gauge is just to close to the light bulb. Anywho thanks for the info. I prolly won't upload any more pics for the week unless something major happens just to save space and so the next pics will look hopefully amazing. Also just ordered a new macro lense for my new Canon so I can get good pics of the forming trichs. woot cheers.
well woke up this morning to some bad plants.. 2 of the 3 have gone hermi.. Lots of little ball sacks.. I do have 1 that while its not the biggest plant.. it doesn't have balls. pic 1 is plant A and pic 2 is plant B...