California Orange Bud CFL grow

Thanks Denial :)

Yeah, I was figuring it was something along those lines.. i;m pretty sure its a ph problem, and its not really destroying them overnight, so i know its not *too* bad so i;m not really obsessing over it yet. Unfortunatly I just can;t tell until my ph meter shows up, but i think if it doesn;t tomorrow, I'll probably cave in and buy some test stripes so i;m at least not flying blind... i;m not gunna fly blind with adding ph up/down lol.

I actually didn;t know there were different types of ph up/down solutions, so that is very useful information :thumbsup:

I suppose my next problem is where to actually get the solutions from... I have looked in every garden centre i've been in locally and haven;t seen anything... one of them had a ph downer I think, but it was being marketted for outdoor water gardens... like backyard ponds and stuff.

There is a hydro store near me that i;m sure carries it... i just haven;t actually ventured into it yet, it doesn;t exactly look like the kind of place that gets alot of traffic, and i;m sure the second i walk in i;m going to have a sales person jump on me, and I don;t really want to walk into that situation completely uninformed and having no clue what i;m talking about lol... i;m sure that'll make it obvious that i;m up to something a little.... sketchy... lets say.

I suppose i could order it online as well, but i'd rather not have to wait for mail.

syde, sorry to hear about the spots seeping up your plants. I don't know a darn thing about ph, but I can see denial's post being valid. I was going to say it's probably over-nute since the brown spots are hitting your lower leaves first. From what I gathered of denial's post, the ph issue may actually be causing an over-nute effect - which essentially jives with what I was thinking. As before, it's always best to take the advice of a more experienced pro than I.

From the last pictures your plants look awesome, dude - extremely green and bushy as heck! I don't know that I've ever seen plants as bushy as those at such a short height? Sweet! Good luck with your ph issue, my friend!

You know what man, I wouldn't worry to much about being hassled at a grow store. Those guys know over half the folks rolling in there are trying to grow mj. All they guys at my store are young punk dressing guys that are probably growing themselves. I wouldn't worry to much about it. If somehow they ask what you are trying to grow, which I can almost promise they won't...just say your trying to grow tomatos and your having unexpected problems and they will probably try and help troubleshoot the issue for you. I'm pretty positive any grow store realizes who at least 50% of their customer base is.

P.S. All these %ages are a shot-in-the-dark guess for me but honestly I doubt its that far off the mark from the other customers that have been shopping in there while I was.

Hey guys :)

jake - thanks so much for the compliments! i kinda really have to chalk it up to a little bit of blind luck ;) well.... may not quite blind, i did do alot of reading here before starting, and i do approach things from a very scientific point of view, so i;m sure that helps a bit :) I owe ssssssoooo much to the other posters of this forum... i have learned an immense amount from reading stuff here, and i;m actually getting ready to make what I hope will be a good contribution-type post regarding CFL lighting. I need to make some diagrams and shit for it though and just haven;t gotten to that yet.

denial - you are so right about the grow store, i have driven by the place and i am pretty sure its run by a bunch of mj growers, its just a little intimidating walking into a specialty store knowing next-to-nothing about it. its seriously in the strangest part of town... like there isn;t really another "retail" store within a mile of it except for like a gas station lol... I think the next closest "business" is a strip club lol! so i;m sure they get absolutly nobody walking in "just to see whats there" kinda thing if you know what i mean.


Anyways...

After i replied to denail's post i started thinking about it more and well... curiosity got the best of me... and i ran out to walmart and picked up an aquarium ph test kit, it was only $5, so didn;t really feel like i was tossing away too much money since i have the milwauke pen in the mail... anyhow.. my tap water ph is like 7.5+!!! the test kit i bought only measures between ph 6 and 7.6 and said "anything below 6 will register as a 6 and anything above 7.6 will register as a 7.6" and well... i;m pretty much the same as the 7.6 colour... ouch.

its a liquid test kit, so unfortunatly testing it with the plant-prod nutes that i have is kinda flawed as the nutes do tint the water slightly.

I also haven;t tested the run-off water yet since i just watered them yesterday and i don;t want to overwater again! that can wait for the weekend i suppose.

I think I will run over to the hydro store tomorrow during my lunch break at work though (its pretty close to there) and pick up some ph down.

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Alright, its day 24, thought i'd do an update!

SO I think I have come to the conclusion that what I thought was an on-coming ph problem, infact, was still just further damage from when i was overwatering. I have noticed that the yellowing and brown spots have only appears on the leaves that were affected by the overwatering, and those leaves never really did look right even once the soil dried out.

Today was a watering day, so I used my crappy aquiarium liquid ph test on the run-off water, and surprisingly, it actually was giving me a run-off of around 6.6, which means my soil should be in the 6.3-6.4 range... which is pretty much dead on! hooray for blind luck!! :thumbsup:

Of course, the run-off was slightly tinted, so i really won;t know until my ph pen gets here... damn slow international mail!

I also decided to experiment a little with plant #3... it seemed to be out-growing they others a bit at the time, so I thought i'd experiment and FIM'd it... i might of taken off a little too much, so it might end up just being a topping, but I should know pretty soon!

they are all sitting in the 7-8" range right now and are still extremely bushy, but I think this is a sleeping monster, I think during flower its going to stretch alot...

roots also seem to have filled out quite nicely in these pots and I think I am going to do my final transplant tomorrow... I know they aren;t 12" in height yet, but i am noticing some curling of the leaf tips, which from what i understand is a sign of becoming rootbound... so i popped one of them out of the pot, and they pretty much look like they are out of space already.

So I;m going to transplant tomorrow, then I think i'll continue veg for about another 7 days, which hopefully they will be close to my 12" goal and we'll start flowering em :jointsmile:

anyhow, heres some pics

plant #1 kinda continues to look sad and mopey... seems to just be its thing!
plnat #2 ouch at the bottom yellow/brown leaves :( you can also see a few of the curly leaf tips here - this one is the largest of the bunch now that #3 was set back a little with the FIM'ing
plant #3 this is the one I have attempted a FIM on , its also my favorite so far! more curly leaf tips here too!
plant #4 it might be last, but at least it looks happier than the leader of the group!

syde, they all look like they are experiencing some rapid vegetative growth - really nice lookin' plants, bro! Let me know how your ph pen works out, as I may need to invest in one; I've tested input and runoff with a pool test kit, but am not certain of the accuracy due to age of the chemicals used. I have a few minor issues I need to address just to see livelier plants, and the ph pen will be a step in the right direction for me.

Thanks for the update - the pictures are awesome! I can't wait to see what they do in flower.

Jake~ thanks! they do seem to be growing great, maybe I have some beginners luck :thumbsup: my ph pen showed up yesterday, so i am pretty eager to try it out... i calibrated it and tested my tap water, but I haven;t had a chance to check run-off water yet... so really just been screwing around with it heh. the girls are scheduled for a watering tomorrow so i'll let you know how the run off test goes!

Anyways, today is day 29, thought i'd do another pic update, i'll be doing one final pic update before i start flowering. I'm going to be away for a couple of days so I didn;t want to start flowering while I wasn;t here, so I'll be starting that on Monday, which would put them at vegging for 33 days. I think there going to be a little taller than I wanted to be. all 4 are in the 9.5-10.5" range, so I suspect they'll be about 11-14" by Monday as they seem to be picking up some rapid height ever since I transplanted on Sunday, i had to raise the lights by about an inch twice this week already, and i;m going to raise it 2 more inches tomorrow before i take off.

pic 1- right after i made fun of all her for being sad mopey she started perking up alot, go figure!
pic 2 - haha looked at the pic now... it looks kinda weird because i had just flipped the handle over the pail and must of caught a branch
pic 3 - still my fav! this is the fim'd one... i think i might of fucked it up though (read pic 5). this one i think sadly is going to be a male... if its true what they say about them growing faster... its been ahead the whole time, and i set it back with the FIMing, but its already ahead again
pic 4 - from the right angle, this one totally looks like a christmas tree! i think christmas might be coming early this year haha
pic 5 - this is another pic of #3, this is where i cut it to do the FIMing.. i wasnt quite sure what to expect to happen, but the branches from the node below shot right up, which made me think I had just done a topping instead... but then a couple days later that shoot started growing out of the main stem... is this what is suppose to happen with a FIM? I wasn't sure what it'd look like

looking at pic 5, looks like you have yourself a ladie there!!!

omg, i forgot the most important part!

I had noticed the smell from them for the past couple weeks... and its been slowly getting stronger and stronger. it was just kinda normal everyday plant smell for awhile, but its started smelling sweeter and sweeter as time went on.

after i had my hand all over the one from flipping the pale handle over it tonight, i smelled my hand a few minutes later and i realized they are starting to actually smell like oranges! i totally can;t believe how much it smells like them... i kinda wasn;t expecting anything like that until flowering started!

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looking at pic 5, looks like you have yourself a ladie there!!!

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wow, i didn;t even notice those hairs there until you said something! hmmm!!!

As soon as you said that i was kinda thinking it might of just been some random plant material that didn't get cut away properly when i fim'd it... so i went and grabbed another pic of what might be some hairs on the same plant.

this pic is the top portion of that shoot growing from the stem now... it looks totally freakish, but maybe thats normal for what I did.. anyways, it looks like those might be some tiny hairs there as well?

it kinda seems really early to me for them to be showing sex in the veg cycle though? they are only 29 days old and have been on 24/0 light. i have had alternating nodes for probably about a week and a half though, so i suppose they are mature.

but what do you think about this pic? is that another hair on that stem right around the part where it starts to split into different directions?

if those are hairs on my favorite one, that is totally a way better discovery than them starting to smell like oranges lol! :rastasmoke:

Definitely another female there...Maybe they are showing because of the 24/0 schedule they are on. Whatever your doing, your in the right path. So keep it up and keep us posted because I will be here till the end! :thumbsup:

Look at them little monsters. They arent taking and lumes hostage! they are looking healthy and the fact that there so lushish green makes them all the more better to look at. keep up the great work!

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Jake~ thanks! they do seem to be growing great, maybe I have some beginners luck :thumbsup: my ph pen showed up yesterday, so i am pretty eager to try it out... i calibrated it and tested my tap water, but I haven;t had a chance to check run-off water yet... so really just been screwing around with it heh. the girls are scheduled for a watering tomorrow so i'll let you know how the run off test goes!

Anyways, today is day 29, thought i'd do another pic update, i'll be doing one final pic update before i start flowering. I'm going to be away for a couple of days so I didn;t want to start flowering while I wasn;t here, so I'll be starting that on Monday, which would put them at vegging for 33 days. I think there going to be a little taller than I wanted to be. all 4 are in the 9.5-10.5" range, so I suspect they'll be about 11-14" by Monday as they seem to be picking up some rapid height ever since I transplanted on Sunday, i had to raise the lights by about an inch twice this week already, and i;m going to raise it 2 more inches tomorrow before i take off.

pic 1- right after i made fun of all her for being sad mopey she started perking up alot, go figure!
pic 2 - haha looked at the pic now... it looks kinda weird because i had just flipped the handle over the pail and must of caught a branch
pic 3 - still my fav! this is the fim'd one... i think i might of fucked it up though (read pic 5). this one i think sadly is going to be a male... if its true what they say about them growing faster... its been ahead the whole time, and i set it back with the FIMing, but its already ahead again
pic 4 - from the right angle, this one totally looks like a christmas tree! i think christmas might be coming early this year haha
pic 5 - this is another pic of #3, this is where i cut it to do the FIMing.. i wasnt quite sure what to expect to happen, but the branches from the node below shot right up, which made me think I had just done a topping instead... but then a couple days later that shoot started growing out of the main stem... is this what is suppose to happen with a FIM? I wasn't sure what it'd look like

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Hey if you don't mind could you help me out on this??? I kind of know how to fim but when can i start it and can you explain how to do it like you did??? and you just fim the main top of the plant rite??? and also how many times do you think i could do it while in veg stage??? Looking forward to your response thanks man

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Hey if you don't mind could you help me out on this??? I kind of know how to fim but when can i start it and can you explain how to do it like you did??? and you just fim the main top of the plant rite??? and also how many times do you think i could do it while in veg stage??? Looking forward to your response thanks man

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Just pinch off about 1/2 to 3/4 of the top with your finger. That's what I do, but be careful not to pluck the whole thing off, otherwise you just topped it :stoned: You can FIM a plant as many times as you want, but a lot of times depending on the strain it may only respond up to a certain point. Which in other words, if you have say, 6 main tops and you try to FIM each top to promote more growth, then maybe 3 may respond to the FIM postitively and the other 3 may not do anything. Then again, they may ALL respond to it. Never grown any of your strains so I don't know, but just maybe do some FIM and see how you like it. Below is a link on FIMing and how to do it! Hope it helps.

P.S. Sorry syde, i know he asked you, but i couldn't resist. :thumbsup:


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Just pinch off about 1/2 to 3/4 of the top with your finger. That's what I do, but be careful not to pluck the whole thing off, otherwise you just topped it :stoned: You can FIM a plant as many times as you want, but a lot of times depending on the strain it may only respond up to a certain point. Which in other words, if you have say, 6 main tops and you try to FIM each top to promote more growth, then maybe 3 may respond to the FIM postitively and the other 3 may not do anything. Then again, they may ALL respond to it. Never grown any of your strains so I don't know, but just maybe do some FIM and see how you like it. Below is a link on FIMing and how to do it! Hope it helps.

P.S. Sorry syde, i know he asked you, but i couldn't resist. :thumbsup:


Click Here Jlve187

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Thanks man you are the best!!!!:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Hey jlve187, I know italiano answered ya already, but i just got home from the long weekend and just thought i'd say that I basically followed this: http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-faqs...made-easy.html thread about how to do it... but italiano got ya covered already I think

Italiano, np about answering! I wasn't around for the weekend anyways

camoxnhx, thanks very much! some more pics here for ya!

today is day 33 and will be the plants final day of veg! All of them are about 11-13" tall, which is pretty much dead on what i predirected they'd be last week. I've swapped my CFLs around and here is what I am running now:

4x 29watt (2200 lumens @ 2700K) - in parabolic reflectors, one directly over each plant
2x 22-26watt (1600 lumens @ 6500K) - in parabolic reflectors, one shared between 2 plants
4x 43watt (2600 lumens @ 2700K) - these are not in reflectors, and are hanging sort of in the centre area between all the plants

this is a total of 22,400 lumens (19,200 @ 2700K + 3200 @ 6500K).

I think all of my plants are showing signs of sex, I know #3 already was before I left, but after doing an inspection today, I think I might actually have 4 females! what are the odds!

pic 1-4 are of plant 1-4 respectively as usual

pic 1 - this is the only one that i'm really unsure if its female or not... i couldn;t find any hairs like the others, but I also couldn;t find any balls... and this kinda looked like hairs about to pop maybe?
pic 2 - can see a hair both on the left and right
pic 3 - this was he already-confirmed female, but i found an orange hair!
pic 4 - couple hairs on the left

pic 5 - just a bit more of a wide angle shot showing the grow... some of them are a little all over the place since I had them all out and inspecting them for hairs

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Hey jlve187, I know italiano answered ya already, but i just got home from the long weekend and just thought i'd say that I basically followed this: http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-faqs...made-easy.html thread about how to do it... but italiano got ya covered already I think

Italiano, np about answering! I wasn't around for the weekend anyways

camoxnhx, thanks very much! some more pics here for ya!

today is day 33 and will be the plants final day of veg! All of them are about 11-13" tall, which is pretty much dead on what i predirected they'd be last week. I've swapped my CFLs around and here is what I am running now:

4x 29watt (2200 lumens @ 2700K) - in parabolic reflectors, one directly over each plant
2x 22-26watt (1600 lumens @ 6500K) - in parabolic reflectors, one shared between 2 plants
4x 43watt (2600 lumens @ 2700K) - these are not in reflectors, and are hanging sort of in the centre area between all the plants

this is a total of 22,400 lumens (19,200 @ 2700K + 3200 @ 6500K).

I think all of my plants are showing signs of sex, I know #3 already was before I left, but after doing an inspection today, I think I might actually have 4 females! what are the odds!

pic 1-4 are of plant 1-4 respectively as usual

pic 1 - this is the only one that i'm really unsure if its female or not... i couldn;t find any hairs like the others, but I also couldn;t find any balls... and this kinda looked like hairs about to pop maybe?
pic 2 - can see a hair both on the left and right
pic 3 - this was he already-confirmed female, but i found an orange hair!
pic 4 - couple hairs on the left

pic 5 - just a bit more of a wide angle shot showing the grow... some of them are a little all over the place since I had them all out and inspecting them for hairs

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Thanks for getting back to me!!! Hate to be a pain but what do you like better fimming or topping? and what did you do to your plants???

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Thanks for getting back to me!!! Hate to be a pain but what do you like better fimming or topping? and what did you do to your plants???

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i can;t really say which i prefer honestly... i hadn;t done either before and just thought i'd try something. It seems to me like i could try doing a FIM but have some wiggle room that if i screwed it up it would probably come out as a topping instead... so i knew i wouldn;t be killing it.

all i did was use some sharp shears to cut off about 80% of the new growth like that post i linked and italiano gave ya a link for

Hey now!
I love Cali Orange bud. Those are some nice thick specimens, there.
Good luck Syd, I'm just watching and grinning for ya.

MP

Think I have a hermie... but i;m a little confused about it.

so plant #1, the one that has been my enemy since day 1, I think might have gone hermie.. not really sure why, as im pretty sure i am pretty light-proof, and aside from that, they have gone pretty much untouched except for watering with the same nutes as the others.

but i;m also not totally sure its a hermie... having not actually seen male. anyways, what i;m seeing looks exactly like other pics i have seen that people have said are males... but... it also kind of seems like hairs are emerging from what i believe to be polen sacks, so confused to say the least.

this plant doesn;t seems to have the least hairs on it so far out of the 4, infact, i think ive only seen them along the main stem so far.

anyways... maybe somebody can let me know.

pic 1 - this is along the main stem, a few nodes down from the top... you can see some white hairs here, but it also kind of looks like they have come out of what looks like the sacks that you see in pic 2. if you look at the hair on that node in the back left you can see it best, it kinda looks like the hair splitting one of those sacks open at the top and coming out, which i expect will look much more like the one in the front left later today or tomorrow.... you can also see the one in the back right that looks to be doing the same but is not as far out.

pic 2 - this is of one of the branches that shows kind of a cluster of the sacks that i am seeing all over... which again, i believe to be a characteristic of male polen sacks.

pic 3 - this is just another one like pic #1 showing what kinda looks like hairs coming out of the sacks... this pic doesn;t really do it justice though... my camera won;t focus on a macro much closer than this :\

anyhow... any thoughts? i;m confused to say the least.... the only thing i can think of is that perhaps this one is a different phenotype than the others and maybe its just a little different... this one has seemed a little different almost right from when they were seedlings.

Well, I decided I shouldn't risk it and wait to see what happens with the sacks, as my gut instinct is screaming hermie... i pulled it out of the cabinet this morning and just going to let it chill out by a window for the day and going to pop it into an unused closet in my house... and hang a few spare CFLs in there when i get home

I guess maybe I can get some seeds out of it... i;m just a little afraid that those seeds will now be more likely to produce more hermies :(

it'll be interesting to see what happens with the clone of that plant i took several weeks ago, which is now growing outside nearby a single clone of each of my others.

around what time of the year to outdoor plants begin flowering? (in southern ontario - very close to NY state) I;m guessing late august/early september? I'll be wanting to check on that clone early in the flower process... if it hermies as well i'll be wanting to chop it down asap otherwise its going to pollenate the other nearby female clones.

the outdoor clones aren;t exactly in a place that i want to goto often... i dug some holes and gave them about 24 litres (6.3 gallons) of soil mix. same base soil i am using indoors (Hortibec Vegetable Garden & Herb). I mixed 60 litres of soil with 18 litres of perlite an 18 litres of vermiculite and popped a few fertilizer sticks in each hole.

I don;t really care about the outdoor ones too much... its really just an experiment... if they die i don't really care, if they don't then well... thats great. I won;t be too surprised if they don't survive since I don;t really intend on giving them too much lovin'

syde, shim appears to be a hermie. Your pic 2 definitely appears to show pollen sacs, while pic 3 definitely shows some calyx/pistil action. I have no experience on hermaphroditic seeds, but have read they have a greater propensity to produce hermaphrodites than "normal" beans. However, if an environmental factor caused the plant to "turn" hermaphrodite, and it wasn't the particular plant's genes, I would think you could wind up with some decent beans?

hey jake, yeah that was pretty much my thinking... i;m really not too sure why that one has gone hermie though. i do think that the soil ph of that one has been off by quite alot for some reason, but i haven;t a clue why... its gotten the exact same soil/nutes/watering as the rest, but when i tested the ph of everything last time, its ph was about 0.8 points lower than the others, which was pretty huge... maybe that caused it? i don;t think i have any light leaks, my temp has been pretty constant (maybe a little cool when the lights are off), and none of my transplants have gone poorly at all... the ph is the only thing that has been out of whack on that one.

its not really a big deal, i mean i wasn;t expecting to get all females... i had expected to either kill a couple with this being my first grow or have a few males. i did kill one early on when a light fell on it as a sprout, but that wasn;t entirely my fault! my grow box has been a little cramped lately due to the remaining 4 being fems, so at least moving the hermie out frees up some space for the others!

Well i got the new makeshift cabinet setup for the hermie... it seems very very male dominant, theres hardly any hairs on it! hopefully it'll produce some seeds.

heres a couple pics of the new hermie closet... its running right now with 3 CFLs:

2x 2200 lumen @ 2700K
1x 1600 lumen @ 6500K

will be posting a pic update of the fems later today once i put them back in the regular cab, they are taking in some sun rays behind the patio door this afternoon for another hour or so before i move them back to the cab.

Alright, just moved the girls back into the regular cab and took some new pics

they are all now standing between 20 and 25", which means at the upper end of things, they have doubled in height since i threw them into flower 2 weeks ago!

pic 1 is the cola forming on plant #2
pic 2 is the one of the colas forming on #3 (this is the one i FIMd)
pic 3 is the cola forming on #4
pic 4 is just a shot of the canopy - plant #2 is the tall one in the back, #3 is the short on in the front-right, and #4 is in the front-left

i;m gunna see if i can come up with something over the next couple days to try and get the light over #3 a little lower - the current setup puts them all at the same height, but plant #3 seems to not be stretching nearly as much as the other any more - its pretty much been ahead of the game maturation wise the whole way... it also has way more hairs on it than the others

Very nice syde00. Its really interesting to see the difference between our plants and how each strain is so unique.

Syde00,

Been a while since I checked in and looks like you have some real beauties now:thumbsup:

Good recovery from the over watering and yes your past issues with the Ph was due to the over watering or low Ph. When water builds up it eventually begins to stagnate and the Ph goes down.

I have had this happen in the past and I solved it by doing a raised Ph flush. This may sound CRAZY BUT IT WORKED. But I will try to explain it. Lets say you have a runoff Ph of 5.5 which is very low and will cause nute lock. You want to raise that runoff to 6.5 by watering with water in the 7.0 to 7.5 range for one watering. The higher Ph counters the lower and will balance out to the range you desire, also add some nitrogen to the water to help the plant recover and get the much needed nitrogen once the roots begin to grow again. Keep in mind when nute lock occurs the roots are dying and decaying adding even more to the stagnation. So it is a slow process to recovery while you build up a new root system.

I see you already have recovered so this is not needed for your plants but I just wanted to let you and those following this log know how to deal with it for future reference.

JG

bertox - yeah, its pretty cool that we are pretty close to one another time-line wise in our grows too, your a couple weeks ahead of me so it kinda gives me a good guide on what i should be expecting lol. I really like your scrog setup too... kinda makes me wish I had done that, especially now that I have one plant getting significantly taller than the others.... I think I;m going to tie it down a little bit so I can get the lights evened out more again.

JG, thanks for coming back to check up! They really did turn around a lot after i got the overwatering issue fixed up, thanks! :thumbsup:. the pH stuff actually makes perfect sense to me... i;m totally a science geek, but unfortunetatly i don;t really have a lot of chemistry background... I really only have baisc chemistry experience from up until about grade 10 general science... I have taken advanced physics up to the lower university level though... my degree isn;t in physics, but did involve some mandatory physics courses. So when it comes to the lighting/electircal/etc, thats a little bit more of my A-game than the soil chemistry side

Day - Flower 21

Just a quick pic update... since not too much has changed in the last week... they don;t seem to be stretching nearly as much now which is great, and trichs are spreading!

pic 1 - the canopy
pic 2 - the top of #2
pic 3 - one of the tops on #3 (the FIMd plant)
pic 4 - the top on #4
pic 5 - an upclose shot of #4's cola

these pics were taken this morning, which is basically the end of day 21 for them... they go lights-out in about 10 minutes

Well, just another pic update, buds are slowly getting bigger

pic 1 - plant #2
pic 2 - plant #3
pic 3 - plant #4
pic 4 - group photo!

all i can say is... if i were a male canna plant, i'd totally hit that :jointsmile:

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all i can say is... if i were a male canna plant, i'd totally hit that :jointsmile:

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LMAO!:D:smokin::D

Very nice syde00, last time I checked in here they was just little button buds...looking ver ver nice! Your grow room looks nice an neet.

heh, thanks bertox :) this cabinet has its own issues unfortunatly. its a tad crowded both horizontally and vertically... i think when/if i grow this strain again i'll probably stop vegging around 8-10" instead of the 12-13 i did this time... either that or build a slightly larger box.

though i;m also kinda tempted to try doing a scrog or sog next time, i think my cfl setup would work well for that.

This is just my opinion, and it may be wrong but looking at the plant you segregated, it looks to me to be male and not a hermie. A new pic will tell for sure. Hermies look like bananas, a straight male will have balls.
Females are lookin great tho.

It is a hermie for sure, there are/were lots of white hairs along the main stem... some of them are still there, but as pollen sacks started bursting on it a week or 2 ago, most of the hairs are kinda shrivling up and retreating back into the calyxes.

it does look kinda crappy though and i have some serious doubts as to if it will produce any decent seeds... i've considered just killing it a couple times over the last week... but since it is my first hermie i figured i should just let it go as a learning experience, its not really doing any harm where it is, and i;m not too concerned about accidental pollenation of the females since i have them on seperate floors of the house, and they are almost on completely opposite light schedules as well, so theres no real risk of pollen being transferred on my hands by going between the 2 areas, since one is in its dark cycle when the other is in its light cycle... plus i always make sure i wash my hands after working with the hermie.

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the last week has been again somewhat uneventful... buds are getting and whats kinda cool to see is some of the hairs are starting to go orange like strain calls for!

anyhow, heres some updates porn! they were taken on flower day 35

pic 1 - plant 2's cola
pic 2 - plant 4's cola
pic 3 - macro of the top of plant 4's cola
pic 4 - one of plant 3's cola's (FIM'd plant... but i;m not sure if this is off one of the top branches)
pic 5 - macro of one of plant 3's cola's

wow very very nice. Im interested in your grow as your using similar lighting as I am, with those 4 40watt 2700k blubs, do you find that plants still stretched alot being that far away from the bulb, at least it looks like they are a bit far away. I have my lamps as close as I can without touching. My poor girl has been abused by light burns b.c a bulb fell on her early on, ironic how out of 5 this one had to be the girl. Anyways, Nice grow, I will deff keep my eye on it.

syde, it's strange how something so monstrous can be so dang sexy, but your Cali Orange is both. That main cola is sick, dude! And, for it to be not only so dang bulky but to have such a vast amount of trichomes? Wicked work, my friend! Congratulations to you and continued good luck!

hey guys :) thanks for stopping back in!

enhanced - they didn;t stretch at all during veg... my lighting setup did change a little through my grow but... if you look back at this pic Cannabis Forums Message Boards - Medical Marijuana, Cannabis Club, Dispensary, News that is the very last wide angel shot i took on the day i started my flower cycle, they were very very bushy back then and were only about 11-13" tall

I actually haven;t measured them in awhile, but the lights come on in about 20 or 30 minutes and i promise i'll try and remember to measure them and report back then! I'd say they are probably in the 30" area now... almost all of that stretch occured during the first 2 weeks of flower.

the 4 42w CFLs i have in the middle are a little far away, but i do also have at least 1 29w (2200 lumen @ 2700K) bulb in an aluminum reflector that is within 2 inches per plant - the exception being the one i FIMd as it is much much shorter than the other 2 and my setup doesn't really accomdate plants of varying height very well :(

jake - thanks so much! i know eh... i just can;t wait for all those hairs to turn that sexy orange colour... the ladies are going to look like they are dressed and ready for a little somethin somethin

the next couple weeks should be really interesting... they said to expect 8-9 weeks flowering time for this strain, and i'm coming up on the end of week 6, so starting to enter the home stretch :D I figure since i;m using CFLs it might be a little longer than normal though

syde, put something under your plants to raise them up. that's what i do.


-shake