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it could be from it being stretched so bad that it can uptake any water. you should consider buying some t8 or t5 flouros and not use the 400 watter. your seedlings dont require that much light yet. these are just a few of my baby girls under 3 4ft t5 flouros. ive started seeds from a 400 watt mh and tried with some flouros and t5 is the way to go. much bushier and cheaper on the electric bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by bkordel
Ok bro, Heres what u do. While you add lots of N, be sure to ad lots of P as well as K.:S2:ROFL Damn I'm a smart-ass. lol But seriously.. Try starting out with some cfl's rather than a tube, a series of them put out very good lumens and wide spectrum. Switch over to the HID when you start feeding. I have a 400 hps with a tube and 210 cfm centrif fan in my closet space, it gets 72-74 deg. I would think a pair of 4 hundies with bat wings would get way higher than 87-88 deg but still kinda high for seedlings IMO, may be causing issues. Combined with hot, damp soil may be showing some sort of wilt/damping disease(fusarium, verticillium, pythium). All in all, I think Ciggs, Finn, shake and Rusty has you hooked up....they have a habit of that shit.lol:greenthumb: Also, your soil can still dry out after/while wilt occurs from some evap appearing dry later.
OK guys thnx for the suggestions. I rooted around my storage and discovered the i actually had a 4ft flouro :D I'm not 100% sure what kind it is but on the bulb it says "PHILIPS TL 40W/25". I'm not using the 400W HPS at the moment, it just dries out the babies so freakin fast, Oh and i also have them on 24H cycle now that i just have the flouros. In any case, the leaves are getting a little more darker green color which makes me a happy camper :) I had to put 2 of them in the same pot as i only had 7 total, but thats just a temporary solution.
take a look at the pics and lemme know what you think.
ok i'm at the end of my rope here:mad: The babies keep deteriorating and wilting. Little dark spots have started to show on one of them. I've grown before with much less of the resources i have now and NEVER had such problems and i'm at a complete lack of ideas. I remember once i grew with a small 24" flouro and it THRIVED. Yes they are growing, but slow as fuck and none of them look particularly healthy. C'mon all you growing vets, throw me a bone. What the hell is wrong? Humidity? Soil? Lighting? I know what everyone is saying, cfl cfl cfl cfl. But i've grown successfully and without problems without them so i know that cant be all thats wrong. Possibly too many nutes in the soil for the little ones to handle? I havent added ANY more nutes than what was already in soil when i bought it. posting pics soon. HELP HELP HELP, i'm at the brink of giving up on them:(
Sorry about the bad pic quality, you should still see what i mean. C'mon guys i feel like i've giving you enough material for a diagnoses. The light at the end of the tunnel is fading, help me. I dont wanna start all over again cuz these seeds arent the cheapest in the world, 50 euros for 10 "OUCH":(
hey you are using a ph meter to your water right? that could be a problem if you arnt. also i didnt see what kind of water are you using. bottled water you need to add calmag. calcium and iron deficiency will spot like that as well with hot soil. with those n-p-k #'s in the soil you should consider doing a flush cause its kinda hot for seedlings. if your pots are 1 pint pots then flush with 3 pints of ph water. then let it get dry again before watering. i had a problem like brown spots from overferted soil in seedlings. try that. you wont see a huge difference right away and those leaves wont get any better. just look for new growth and monitor that. dont stress out too much about it. im not guaranteeing that its going to get better but i had a seedling that got burnt from using hot soil and looked worse than yours w/o the stretch and they survived just nicely. just think positive, not worth getting to stressed cause they are just seeds now. imagine if it were a mature flowering plant. i would stress out then. you can always buy more seeds but you cant buy time! keep me posted. i want to see how it turns out. also dont put 2 seeds in one pot. it will rootbound for sure. it might not be to late to separate them. if you dont have an extra pot right now a foam/plastic cup with holes will do the trick.
ok guy. all the babies are gone. cause of death: nutrient burn. the brown spots started to show even in the new growth and they were not gaining any height so i just decided to start over from scratch. tomorrow i'm buying soil made for seedlings. the name isnt in english but translated its called "seedling soil" so that should be great, very little to no nutrients in it at all. this time i'll be going for himalaya gold instead of trainwreck from ghs. i'll keep you posted.