LOL, "The Shitz" Grwoth blend and Bloom blend! :DQuote:
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LOL, "The Shitz" Grwoth blend and Bloom blend! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BigLeagueJew
Sweet, yesterday's watering seems to have agreed with both plants: they both grew taller and bushier. I added 3-4 pinches of the Shitz Growth formula to the top soil. I also raised the HPS a few more inches to avoid heat stress.
The next waterings will gradually release nutrients to the plants...knock on wood they're both girls! :hippy:
Watered the plants a bit to give them a bit of nutrition from the ferts I'd sprinkled on the top soil yesterday; I took a closer look...pistil located on tall and bushy (the one on the right)! :thumbsup:
Okay, one source claimed that on their 12/12 from seed grow, signs of sex appeared in 14-15 days. In my case, 25, 10 days later. Now I fully realize the actual strain may affect this...but using their stats as a general rule of thumb:
Theirs: 14-15 days to sexing , 52 to 58 days to harvest
Mine: 25 days to sexing...so I'll extrapolate that harvest should be 62 - 68 days...
AND...I couldn't help myself, found me a LED UFO grow light (hopefully better quality than the panel I bought last year) which boasts 90 1 watt LED's, 80 red and 10 blue.
HPS is tried, tested and true, I don't regret getting the HPS kit. But I cling to the notion that LED's are more energy efficient (a good 90W UFO or 100w Procyon are supposed to be the equivalent of a 400w and 600W HID respectively) and generate less heat ...perfect for a stealth grow.
The UFO I got listed for $499.99 I got it at an auction for a fraction of the cost...we'll see, on my next grow!:hippy:
And the babies are growing steady! :hippy:
More pistils showing on rightie...I think I'm seeing signs of balls on leftie though...I've been wrong before, so I'm going to give leftie some more time. I thought one plant would turn out male during my last grow, only to have it turn out to be my most productive female so...I'll keep my eyes open! :thumbsup:
Just a suggestion...maybe just update your log once, twice, or even 3 times a week. 7 days a week for a full grow is a lot of pages and reading. Plus it's easier for a reader to see growth changes when the pics arent day after day. It's your log so your choice but if you read many other logs, you will see most do it how I'm suggesting. Good job so far and GL.:hippy:
Well...the tally so far: out of 5 seeds, 3 popped out of the soil, 2 never gave sign of life. Of the three, one shrivelled up and died. I was quick to say it was my mistake, however...the conditions were identical for all three plants, why that one only and not the three?
And out of the two remaining, Murphy's Law: one girl one boy, and then there was one. :(
I guess any packet of seeds can have equal odds of great seeds and duds no matter who the distributor is. Based on the online description of Dutch Passion's Oasis seeds, I thought they were worth the extra money...but one successful female out of five seeds is hardly impressive.
Agreed I may have equal chances of the same thing happening with KC Brains seeds, but at least I won't have paid as much ,so it won't feel like I've been ripped off as badly. ;)
End rant...I had a feeling I'd need the Afghani Special seeds before my next grow, sure enough that day is today. I've prepared three new pots, and I'm soaking three A.S. seeds in preboiled water, only this time I've placed the jar in a small cardboard box on top of my Digital Cable box for increased warmth.
This time I want to be damned sure the seeds have split open and show a bit of tap root before placing them in the soil. The 12/12 from seed schedule does seem to agree with my remaining Oasis girl...can't wait to see what kind of yield I get!
can't wait to see how she looks on the straight 12/12......:thumbsup:
That sucks, I guess some ya win and some ya lose.....My recent grow I probably had about 14 plants to start and ended up with only 4 that were females :wtf: So I suppose it's luck of the draw sometimes, even though it blows how that is how it happens sometimes! Besides that good luck with the next set of seedlings and I will be keeping up with the log :hippy:Quote:
And out of the two remaining, Murphy's Law: one girl one boy, and then there was one.
And this is where K.I.S.S. becomes a tad more complex: The Oasis girl has a 30 day head start on the Afghani special seedlings, the HPS is at a safe distance from the Oasis girl but may be too high for the Afghani's to sprout out from the soil...so until they're out of the soil and have grown their second set of leaves, here's my solution... :cool:
The CFL is cool white, 13 watts and located at close distance to the soil. I'm not really concerned with lost lumens as it's only there to supplement the HPS until the seedlings have turned to healthy sprouts. This is where the UFO would have come in handy I think - good light intensity and no added heat.
Though the weather's been rather cool so I guess the extra heat in the cab won't go amiss, current temp: 80 F, humidity 49%
Photo!:hippy:
Well, too tall's a big girl, tall and strong. As expected the AS seedlings seem to be working in slow-mo...I'm replacing the 13 watt CFL by a LED panel I got off ebay last grow...need more blues to help the seedlings.
Still very curious about the UFO light and whether or not it will be effective...
looking good
i was tinking about doing 12/12 from start to finish but ill see how ur works out
good luck:thumbsup:
check http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...ml:rastasmoke:
And the tally this Monday: one big healthy girl and three sprouts! I've replaced the CFL with the blue LED panel I used during my last grow (still awaiting delivery of the UFO) to provide the sprouts with more blue spectrum.
Very odd how one pot needed no water when the other three did... but no matter, I watered the three pots needing water. This is becoming interesting!
So this is what my setup looks like as of today (Day 38?)
Not perfect but...it'll do!
No pics today...this grow has turned into an oddball mixed HPS/LED grow...HPS for the flowering Oasis female and LED for the Afghani Special sprouts...
Give the Oasis girl her first haircut (some of the larger fan leaves were feeling dry to the touch and hogging most of the HPS light as well as obstructing airflow), treated her to a few pinches of the Shitz bloom ferts, rearranged the lights.
Today I checked on the sprouts; they are developping nicely if a bit scrawny (I know, they have plenty of time to grow yet) and I watered all of them. The watering should distribute some ferts to the Oasis girl...plenty of pistils and bud sites, not enough trichomes...ah the waiting game!
Average cabinet temps: 84F, humidity 42% ...
Okay...so we got HPS level pictures (Oasis girl) and LED level pictures (Afghani sprouts)...the LED sprouts look awfully leggy, but so did the Oasis ones so I'm not going to worry about that. So far, out of 5 Dutch Passion Oasis seeds, 3 sprouted, one died and one turned out male leaving me with only one female.
So far, out of the 3 KC Brains Afghani Special seeds, 3 sprouted...I'll reserve final judgement until they show signs of sex, but it's a better start than the Dutch Passion seeds and they (the KC Brains seeds) are a good $40.00 cheaper...you do the math! ;)
Has it been that long? Man! :wtf:
The Oasis girl seems to need more water than the Afghani's -the afghani's soil still feels damp to the touch, the Oasis' is bone dry...also, the lack of trichomes worries me, so I gave the Oasis another pinch of Shitz bloom mix along with a good watering.
The Afghani special babies seem to be reacting well to the UFO, the leggy stems are thickening nicely...pics coming up! :thumbsup:
The pics!
Very very odd: the Oasis is showing more trichomes as you move lower; the cola has some but not as many as there were during the last grow...the Afghani Specials seem to be responding well to the LED UFO...
Vote for Pedro! Your Oasis is looking splendid, and I was not expecting the size of the AS to be so big. Dude, you've got big AS on your hands!
Sweet grow so far - looks like the 12/12 grow will be a success for certain! I'm looking forward to following along with you.
Thx bro! As usual I'm not just experimenting with 12/12, but also with the LED UFO which provides light to the AS...so far so good!Quote:
Originally Posted by jakezking
I did have a bit of a glitch though...my timer malfunctioned so I had to get a replacement pronto...so Saturday and Sunday got about 8 hours of light (chit meng :mad: ) but things should be back to normal tomorrow - I relpaced the timer earlier today.
To take the guessing out of watering I installed one water globe per pot (it auto dispenses water to the soil)...
I also gave the plants a trim. I've had 0 incidences of hermies from pruning thus far, and the foliage was interfering with the air exchange so some fan leaves had to go!
Must say they are looking very nice already :jointsmile:
All right, lesson learned for a cabinet grow: the Oasis strain grows very tall...that was one of the reasons I'd chosen KC-36 a few grows ago since it doesn't grow much taller than 2' tall... pistil alert on one of the AS...more blooms! :D
I was a bit skeptical about LED, but thus far that was the best Ebay score ever! ;)
Those LEDs make it look like there is some serious AS shakin' on the disco dance floor! If you don't mind me askin' - how much did you get the UFO for on Ebay? Was it a buy-it-now price or an auction where you had to win it? I've read the 90W UFO is equivalent to a 400W HID - what's your take on its impact? From the pictures it looks like it's got a pretty powerful punch!
looks great... gosh.
ND
Heh... I gotta admit, those 'Aqua Globes' look pretty damn cool underneath the LED lighting. :cool:
Aesthetics aside, how well do they work?
Haha... I use the same cups. I get them free from work.
$137.52 and another $25.00 for shipping, then another what...$15.00 for Customs fee? Agreed it was an auction, I took a chance and got a good price! :thumbsup: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jakezking
The verdict's still pending as far as equivalences go - some sources claim 400 watts MH/600 watt HPS for 90 watts of LED UFO...how true that statement is and how effective the UFO actually is on its own remains to be seen. :hippy:
I might try an all UFO grow with the remaining AS seeds once this grow is ready (12/12 from seed too) and see how that goes...though I admit it's pretty impressive so far! :thumbsup:
Hm, infomecial stuff has a tendency to work best in infomercials, but...I check on the fill level once every morning and the water does seem to be absorbed gradually by the soil. :hippy:Quote:
Aesthetics aside, how well do they work?
I'm not sure I buy the "As the soil becomes dry, it releases oxygen into the globe, which in turn releases the exact amount of water your plant needs" explanation; but I am testing them out (like the 12/12 schedule from seed and the UFO LED light) and so far it seems to be working!
I lost count! 75 sounds right...
Pulled a switcheroo on Sunday with the lights: The Oasis was getting serious heat burn from the HPS...so I gave all plants a good watering, topped the plant to get rid of the burned pieces and put the UFO above the Oasis and the HPS above the Afghani Specials (which are still short).
Seems to be working fine so far: The Oasis has stopped growing taller and is "ripening" nicely, and the AS' are evening up height-wise, I beleive I have two confirmed female Afghanis and one possible male...I'm keeping track every morning!:hippy:
Pics of the current setup!
Hm...12/12 from seed is taking longer than anticipated, but well worth it, great learning experience! :thumbsup:
The Oasis isn't ready for harvest yet, the trichomes are still clear. Good news about the Afghani Special: out of 3 seeds, 3 sprouted, all 3 are girls! :D:hippy::thumbsup:
I must say I'm happy with the UFO, it took good care of the AS as it tried to catch up with the Oasis and provided the Oasis with light when it was too tall and getting burned by the HPS.
The HPS really got the AS moving when I did the switcharoo; they are now taller and sport pistils.
Conclusions:
- While KC Brains seeds' genetics have been questioned by other growers, they have proven to be more reliable than the more expensive Dutch Passion seeds: 3 seeds, all sprouted, all female...and they're cheaper.
- the 150 watt HPS and the LED UFO compliment each other nicely, I know the HPS can carry a grow from seed to harvest, that remains to be proven with the UFO...though it has impressed me so far.
- The Oasis grows much too tall for a stealth cabinet grow
- The organic Shitz nutes seem to agree with the girls, though a little goes a long way
- I must remember to clean the inside of the cabinet before my next grow...there was still left-over pollen from the prior grow and I've spotted seed pods on the Oasis :(
- The local water is "hard"...a lot of calcium, lime and rust in there, even while using a Britta filter; I'm noy sure what else to do...:wtf:
:thumbsup:
Last night (under a green CFL light) I pruned yellowing leaves, gave the girls a good watering and gave them a feeding.
I might be put in a position where I use the UFO only to complete the flowering cycle...the Afghanis are growing pretty freaking tall too! :wtf:
And one AS has turned hermie on me...:( tossed it today. One AS has yellowing leaves...I'll keep an eye on it. The Oasis is nearing harvest time, and the third AS looks to be in good health...knock on wood!
Hm...that yellowing AS has me worried...very few bud sites, no "balls" at least, and pistils, so I know it's a girl. Her sister's a bit shorter and has more bud sites.
I've been wondering if the yellowing plant was having nute burn, or if it was over watered or something...form my search it would seem that it's quite the opposite: insufficient water and lack of nutes! Gave all 3 plants a few pinches of Schitz bloom mix nutes and a good watering.
I was hoping to harvest the Oasis today, but a look at the trichs under my pocker microscope show a mix of clear and milky trichomes, no amber ones...so it ain't ready yet.
I took a pic of the Oasis' cola...bearing in mind that it's grown under 12/12 lighting from seed and that I've pruned it several timed during flowering; that's one massive cola/bud there! :hippy::thumbsup:
The yellow is normal part of the bloom cycle. How mature is that plant?
About 30 days younger than the Oasis, the other Afghani and the Oasis are a lot greener.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shovelhandle
My fingers are sticky and smell green! Since my AS were reponding well to the LED treatment, I've made the remainder of the grow (for the Afghani) LED only. This way I save on hydro and the cab temperatures are easier to control. How they'll turn out...remains to be seen! :hippy:
Okay...so the one that turned yellow turned hermie...just dumped that one. Okay, so out of 3 Afghani Special, 3 sprouted 1 girl 2 hermies. While it's disappointing, at least I only paid $50.00 for a packet of 10 seeds rather than the $90 -something I'd paid for the Oasis; so the loss isn;t as bad!