good looking out guys. i need to go get a ph test kit.
thanks for following along. i will keep everyone posted.
-shake
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good looking out guys. i need to go get a ph test kit.
thanks for following along. i will keep everyone posted.
-shake
Hey man, been reading the thread and those plants look good. Do you use the same lights for veg. and flower?
i use 3x 26W (6500K) & 1x 26W (2700K) for veg and 6x 26W (2700K) with 2x 26W (6500K) CFLsQuote:
Originally Posted by TheLastIndian
-shake
wat is corn??
also cloning in flower will just be harder, use 6500k only light, many people just chop off the bottom branches anyways so taking off one or two to clone isnt going to damage your yield, you maybe lost one or two popcorn buds, this early into flower, that energy will be spent on the top colas now anyways
use 6500K light only for what?
and it's popcorn, aka mids, aka middies
-shake
Mmm, Miss Gnarly looks amazing. =)
Also, cloning during early flowering is a little sluggish of a route, but I remember reading a log a couple tokes ago. someone was cloning a bubble gum fresh out of a friends flower room (maybe 2-3 weeks in). so...pull some clones and reveg 'em. or do a 20 clones all in hempy buckets and flower them while they are still small. =) 20 clones at 10 grams a piece? I'm gona cut my rambling ass off now.
beSafe shakezoola :jointsmile:
also, if ya wanna trade some thoughts, lemme know. I can get on a messenger or something.
use 6500k spectrum lights if you plan to clone in flowering, it will help
use 6500K in my flower box, or for the clones after taken. if afterwards, why would i not put them into 6500K light?
thanks.
-shake
hey shake- saw you calling me out on my rep-whoring on that other log. dick! naw, just playing. as to your other question, i've been around but lurking. my mom had a pretty serious back surgery (double fusion) and i've been making the 2 hour trip to help out more often than usual. currently researching some seeds to order with medicinal properties for her.
while i'm here, let me say some related info instead of rambling on thread-jacking...
on the cloning stuff: your warm:soft light ratios are fine, shake. and yes you can still clone. most don't advise after 2-3 weeks in though. the idea of cloning was totally alien to me my first time, but now i think nothing of raping a mother plant. with cloning, quantity is key. some won't take, some will. some'll take off, and some will lag behind. i'm happy if i get 1/3 of my clones to take off, because they usually all root for me now.
keep on truckin', shake!
-GG84
LMAO!
sorry to hear about your mom! truly. that sucks. that good that you are taking care of her.
thanks for all of the info. i really appreciate it. i might take a few clones of some of the assorted dank that is in the box. i honestly probably won't do it till i have some good, known genetics to play with. probably try to get some lights and stuff first.
thanks again!
-shake
flowering clones might make better use of 6500k light for the first few days, until they change back to vegetative stage growth.. not sure though just a thought!Quote:
Originally Posted by headshake
nice grow here dude :) I see its coming along nicely... just got my red hair seedlings potted in 7litre's myself.. wish me luck! hehe.
Peace,
Denial :thumbsup:
thanks denial!
i never thought about the light like that.
good lluck with the red hairs!
*crosses fingers*
-shake
not a whole lot has been going on. last night i watered and fed the ladies. it was the first time they have been graced with real nutes. i used the big bloom, tiger bloom, and cha-ching. they seemed to like them. they looked real nice this morning.
i also watered the next batch of up-and-comers. they don't look like much yet, but they will!
-shake
pic 1- all of the ladies.
pic 2- miss gnarly again.
pic 3- the new batch.
pic 4- inside the cab currently.
pic 5- some bluebonnets (the small ones that look like venus fly traps). the other two are asiatic lilies that i pulled off of one that i got from home depot. new shoots come up and you can follow them back to the root ball and they pop off and look like little onions.
They are coming along great headshake. I will be peeking in from time to time.:hippy:
thanks 420! i appreciate it.
i'm following your log as well.
-shake
what's good everybody? a little update on the log here.
last night i watered the ladies and fed them with big bloom, tiger bloom and cha-ching. (1/2 strength on the liquids and 1/4 teaspoon of the powder.)
i did get a new pH test kit and some pH down. the original test indicated over the 7.6 that the test went up to. i brought it down (with newly aquired pH down). i don't think it was as low as i wanted to go, but it was better for sure.
i am gonna transplant the ladies. i've got to get the new clone/mom cab done first though. i'll just "borrow" it to finish flowering the ladies. i'll keep four in each probably. i need to go pick up a few more things.
i think after i chop miss gnarly i'm gonna re-veg her and get clones. she is head and shoulders above the bunch!
i'm also gonna start acquiring the parts for my either ebb & flow or DWC setup. i still can't decide which way to go.
i'll keep everyone posted.
here's a few pics for ya'll.
-shake
pic 1- original pH. not sure of the exact number, but extremely too high!
pic 2- adjusted down some. still not positive, but it's better. still trying to get a feel for the new pH test kit.
pic 3- test after the nutes were added to the 2nd test. not sure how accurate it can be as it was tinted.
pic 4- all of the ladies. one is definitely a sativa or sativa dominant. it's lagging behind the rest of the bunch. bottom right.
pic 5- the new batch of up-and-comers.
also i used about 1/6 of a gallon of food i had left on the new plants. i filled up the gallon with pH adjusted water. i did this after transplanting them into, bigger, non-see thru cups.
-shake
Looking fine, Bub! Good luck on the reveg too.
shake, i've been tossing a few ideas around in my head for a ebb and flow table in a rubbermaid tote. i'll draw up a diagram if you don't follow.
so here's what i'm thinking (i'll put material list 1st):
-one 18 gallon rubbermaid tote with lid, lightproofed
-two five gallon buckets, lightproofed
-~2' of 1/2" tubing
-drill with 1/2" bit
-~2' of 1/2" pvc pipe
-2 small water pumps (75 gph should do it)
-6-10 used 2 liter bottles, with bottom cut off and lightproofed
-a timer
so my idea is to have the lid of the rubbermaid tote drilled into for 6-10 pieces of pvc pipe. a 2 litre bottle fits perfectly into this dimenision of pvc. with 2 five gallon buckets on either side of the tote, you have your reservoirs. a pump in each with the tubing running into holes on each side of the tote floods the tote. and if you need some hydroton to fill your inverted 2 liters (or some light-blocking covers), seriously, we'll get in touch.
otherwise, the DWC method i'm using (i ditched the litter containers, but my friend is still going strong in one) is working out well. i've now opted for the 4 pack of office trash cans found at sams club. one $15-$20 air pump per each and a $2 airstone per each is working well, so please, let me bring you to the darkside...
peace and love,
-GG84
looking good man:thumbsup:
i was thinking of something similar to your ebb/flow setup. i have a box that is 45.5" x 21" x 24" (l x w x h). so i was gonna go with two of the underbed storage totes. i think they calculate to like 16 and some odd gallons. (my math could be off, it's been a while). i was gonna use one in the box for the flood table and one out of the box for the res.
obviously some pvc and a water pump. timer. viola. find the best pots (something not too big and square, i think). what do you think?
and is DWC the darkside? i guess i could do it on a smaller level? i'd like to do some sort of perpetual SOG. although, this is still in the air. i just figured it would be best instead of growing some monsters.
what kinda harvest schedule etc are you talking?
glad to hear from you!
-shake
ha ha! hydro is the darkside, shake!
as far as harvest schedule goes, in my head anyways:
from my mother, take 6 clones every 2 weeks. out of those 6, pick the best 2. veg for 2 weeks. after they're done vegging, its time for 6 more clones from the mother. wash, rinse, repeat. after each set's 2 week veg, into flower they go. if you have ten holes and a 60 day finishing time, you could harvest 2 plants every 2 weeks at about 1.5-2' each. it would just be a staggered harvest. so two plants in for two weeks, then two more, then two more, then two more and a harvest, then two more and a harvest, then two more and a harvest, etc...
oh and about the square pots in the ebb/flow... i was thinking also of some 20oz solo cups with some holes made via the old shitty soldering iron i have. voila, net pots!
i oughtta just rename myself DIY_Master... :jointsmile:
i found some 18 oz solo cups that have square(ish) bottoms.
what size bloom area do you have? hmm, DWC does sound tempting. either way.
what are you pulling off of those 2 plants at harvest?
i was thinking if i could pull 8 ladies every two weeks and get 30 grams (not sure how feasible this is yet, i don't have any experience backing my guesstimations) then that's obviously pretty nice.
i'm not opposed to DWC. it was my first thought. i just don't have a lot of room (still) so i'm trying to get the most bang for my buck.
i guess i could always *gasp* build a little box and not use a cardboard one? build an all-in-one.
how many actual DWC units/totes/what-have-you do you have? i'd like to do a few different strains. although this can be done with moms and a rotating schedule.
how is your mom doing by the way?
-shake
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenGraham84
The way I interpret it 1.5 - 2 oz.s every 2 weeks. By the way nice set up you have going..
could be. the little " ' " behind the 1.5 to 2 make me think it's the height in feet of the plants pulled. either way. lol.
and thank for the compliment!
-shake
30g off of 8 plants is very feasible, friend. best harvest off one 1.5' plant was 32g. under CFLs. :jointsmile: although, a safer estimate is 50g per two plants @ 1'.
currently my flower cab is approx. 3.5'Wx2.5'Dx4'T
at the moment i have 4 DWC containers for my flower cab, though i'm using only one (gonna start flowering old mom). i use the 4 pack of garbage cans at sams club, and can fit up to 6 in my flower cab.
my mother is doing very well, thank you! her surgery seems to have worked and she doesn't need to wake up for pain meds during the night anymore. she's hoping that once the entry sites heal, she'll be pain-free! for now its "a different kind of pain" in her words, but not as bad, so hooray!
i'd upload a photo of my other "mom" (since i'm sure some others are confused) but apparently my SD card is unreadable. sadness. its an opium clone, very bushy and smells like grapefruit 2 days into flower. if i get the SD thing figured out, i'll post a pic on my decrepit grow log.
i meant 30g per plant times 8 plants. my bad. i should have been more clear. so that way i could pull a little over a half-pound every 2 weeks. (and yes, this is just for me and a few close friends!).
either way. it was just a plant. i could probably get away with a flower cab of that size. i could make it look all nice like a piece of furniture. that could work!
yeah, get that card working and post those pics! i need to go check out that decrepit log. i don't remember what light you are using now.
what light are you using now? lol.
damn, glad to have you back! and i'm happy about the winds of change. i thought i would say that here and leave the new guys introduction alone!
-shake
30g per (1.5) plant is obtainable, but i'd bet it'd be your 2nd or 3rd run before you get it all dialed in for yield in that range.
i'm still running the 12 26w CFLs in my flower cab. i have a hidhut list though and will order as soon as my taxes are in!
i know you'll be around throughout the winds of change. i'm just patiently waiting for the boards to be populated by so many experts again. there's still a few, but that big server crash seems to have cut ties with many. here's hoping.
what do you plan on getting at the hidhut?
if i did a cab similar in size to yours i could get a 400W or 600W instead of the vanity bars, splitters, bulbs, etc.
it would definitely take a few runs to get dialed in. especially knowing nothing of the darkside (yet)!
i guess a pH test pen would be a must too? a needed investment none the less.
i'm gonna go check those trashcans you use out.
and i will definitely be around throught the winds of change. i too can't wait for more experts to populate our boards again! one of these days i hope to be one too (as i know you will be).
we need to get that troubleshooting forum cranking again. i guess the change is in our hands now.
-shake
my friend, you are inspiring. too bad you don't live closer. that could be trouble!!!
well the list so far includes but is not limited to:
-1 x250W HPS Digi Ballast, Bulb and CoolTube Reflector (if i can manage temps well with the 250W, than i'll be buying a 400w HPS setup and a conversion bulb for the 250W, then use that for veg.
-1 x3-in-1 Meter (pH, TDS, EC)
-1 x1382 ppm TDS Solution
-1 xIlluminated Microscope 30X
-1 x220CFM 4" Centrifugal CanFan
-4 xAlita 3.75" Air Stone Disc
-1 xCal-Mag Plus 2-0-0: 1 Quart
-1 xSuperthrive: 4 Ounce
-1 xGeneral Hydroponics MaxiGro 10-5-14: 2 LB
-1 xGeneral Hydroponics MaxiBloom 5-15-14: 2 Lb
-1 xOlivia's Cloning Gel: 8 Ounce
-1 xRapid Rooter 50 Pack
and i'm browsing all the time. i think you would like those trash cans, they fit so nicely next to eachother.
and before it seems like we're e-stroking eachother, you, sir, are quite an inspiration yourself. before or after joing the boards, i've never seen someone so committed to helping everyone. many kudos, shake.
and yes, it's trouble enough that we can speak on here! i can't imagine what would happen if we could swap our regional spoon-rests as lit_up mentioned!
A little off topic, but... Shake, I just noticed that epic third quote in your signature. Keep on preaching brother!
Woo, got das interweb hooked back up.=) Glad to see miss gnarly and company still doing mighty fine. I also enjoyed the ramble between you and GG. Hydro/aero have been one of my fantasies for some time. I'll check in and rake up some good information on a regular basis again.
beSafe shakeman. :jointsmile:
Your grow is pretty damn cool man! I had no idea you could grow in cardboard boxs. Just when you think you know it all, someone comes along and teaches you something new. I'd like to see a rubbermaid hydro setup. Sounds like it would be good to pop your hydro-cherry with, and if it goes south you could always repurpose the rubbermaid into an ordinary grow box.
sounding good golden! i'm a little farther behind than you. and i won't waste your bandwidth listing my meager growing possessions. it is coming along though.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenGraham84
i'm gonna "upgrade" my sub-par box once more, to maximize what i'm working with. after that i'm holding out 'til i can put together a custom cab. i'll probably build it and paint it, maybe add some molding. only time and my imagination will tell. something similar to the dimensions you have for flower, and then add the grow box onto it.
ROTFLMAO at e-stroking!!! that's too funny.
i'm off to find a texas spoon for your rest my friend!
will do! i try to give love all the time, but i'm not a spoon-feeding (spoon collector, yes!) type of person. and all of the whining/no researching people on the boards only make me appreciate all of the fine, self-sufficient, intelligent question asking people here.Quote:
Originally Posted by RamblerGambler
glad you got you internet back up. that sucks almost worse than having no bud!Quote:
Originally Posted by BeFree
thanks. the ladies are coming along. i need to quit being lazy and get to work on some stuff though!
yeah, pretty crazy huh? i started with no knowledge, a box, a wal-mart grow light and a dream. i probably could have just bought a "real" setup with all of the money i've pumped into the thing. read the response to golden's quote above!Quote:
Originally Posted by fluid69
thanks for all the kind words/input/feedback! you guys keep me motivated! i'll try to keep ya'll the same!
-shake
what's good everyone? not a full-fledged update, just a little somethin somethin. i have bought the last of my upgrades for the current operation. i hope to have it all finished by tonight.
here goes nothing. full update to follow!
-shake
can't wait to see it!
Welll Im still here Shake waiting to check theses updates man. Hope it all goes well I am in the process of working out my money and grow options I can't wait to get started. So I guess in the mean time I just gotta stay and watch a select few logs. Can't wait to see some updates just wish someone was doing some BOG strains. But I will be tuned.!!!!:jointsmile:
~One~:rastasmoke:
~BudG~:rastasmoke::rastasmoke:
what's BOG strains?
still working away!
-shake
Bog is a breeder. I have only had the fortune of having some of the bud once but was not smoking at the time:(. I have heard that stinkyattic use to have and like some of his genetics. Not to many places sell the seeds anymore few places in Canada but no shippin to the U.S. But everyone I knew loved the way his shit smoked.:jointsmile: But can't wait to see what you got brewin on that side.
~One~:rastasmoke:
~BudG~:rastasmoke::rastasmoke:
got a little done today. no pics though. the ladies are sleeping. full update tomorrow.
-shake