Whiskeytango's Boom-boom room....

I agree both ways...The initial investment sucks but after that it's all nutes...Gotta spend the money on nutes for soil or coco anyways...

The more you watch your stuff the better it'll come out agreed, but in my first attempt at hydro We ran a ebb n flow table with no ph pen (just the drops) completely blind on the PPM's or E.C., due to not having a pen, and got far better results than I thought I would, for not having the right equip. and poor conditions in the room...

Cleaned out the res once a week gave new nutes and topped off once or twice a week with PH'd water and checked Ph every 1-3 days with no I'll effects no root rot or no obvious deficiencies...

I don't now if it was the nutes cuz We just ran a clear plastic tote w/ 6" net pots just sitting in it, and a 18 Gal rubbermaid res w/ a submers. pump, no air stones at all either. Some of the densest and sweetest tasting buds I've smoked in years..No taste of leftover nutes...I couldn't believe bud like that came outta my computer room...lol..

.But I'm giving a lot of credit to the nutes cuz just went into the whole grow blind... Can't wait to get it on and poppin again...I see big things for the future of my newly remodeled and still under construction grow space...Damn Somebody shut me up...can't stop typing...if yall were here right now I'd be " blah blah blah blah"...can't shut me up sometimes...sorry

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p.s. like Dai I like the fact of re-using the medium. No soil to buy for the next grow...If you think about it the plant gets no nutritional value from the soil alone, the soil just act's as a reservoir to hold the nute solution...I say cut out the middle man so the roots can use both Oxygen and H2o quicker and more efficiently...DAMN there I go again...

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Not arguing either of those points..Hmmm
I got a yard for the dirt, lol...planting a garden too. Me back will be hurtin for sure...but playing in the dirt is fun too. Maybe if I go DWC, I can get a kiddie sandbox for my backyard...throw some nice organic mix in there....go roll around a bit...

Not really initially Dai, compared to the costs of nutes and things. It also depends on how many "extras" you use as well......and we use them ALL; from Liquid Karma to Sweet to Rhizotonic and Cannazym so I think that's what I meant more by "expensive" compared to soil growing.

Was talking to X-C the other day.......didn't realize that FFOF soil was made in Humboldt County. We only pay $13.00 retail a bag for it but I understand the price really jumps on the other side of the country.

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Not really initially Dai, compared to the costs of nutes and things. It also depends on how many "extras" you use as well......and we use them ALL; from Liquid Karma to Sweet to Rhizotonic and Cannazym so I think that's what I meant more by "expensive" compared to soil growing.

Was talking to X-C the other day.......didn't realize that FFOF soil was made in Humboldt County. We only pay $13.00 retail a bag for it but I understand the price really jumps on the other side of the country.

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FFoF is about 22 bucks here in Texas where I live. Hydro nutes and soil nutes seem very comparable in price; I was using sweet but switched to canna's version called "boost", Rhizotonic I use to get the plants going and cannazym I only use on an as need basis and I'd imagine that to be true with hydro also.

Really it seems that it would be about the same price along nutrient lines and cheaper if you consider the non recurring cost of having to buy a medium.

It's probably something I'd have to experience doing a hydro grow to understand what you mean.

Luckily I'm a stickler for recording what all my costs are. I even have a breakdown of my KWH usage for my equipment in addition for Estimated KWH for my central A/C in relation to the additional room I have to cool. I will be doing a Hydro grow very soon and will have a side by side cost comparison.

I'm sure you're right; it's more expensive, but all in all I can't imagine it costing anymore along the nutrient lines when compared to soil. Many of the things you use in hydro you use in soil also (ph down/up, nutrient line, cannazym for root health and rhizotonic for root stimulation, sweet/molasses/boost for extra carbs and if you want a final flush type product even), I'm sure I'll figure it out soon but I'm so enticed by the dark side even if it costs a little more I won't mind.

The benefits seem to outweigh the cons; at least for my purposes.

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Anaylitical (sp?) type folks do well with hydro. My very best friend grows in the cheapest soil she can and does the ignore thing......still ends up with a decent harvest.
She's very familiar with my work but it just isn't worth it to her..........whereas I consider the way she grows much more wasteful. If I'm going to put my time and energy in then I have to make it the biggest, best, shiniest I can along the way.

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Anaylitical (sp?) type folks do well with hydro. My very best friend grows in the cheapest soil she can and does the ignore thing......still ends up with a decent harvest.
She's very familiar with my work but it just isn't worth it to her..........whereas I consider the way she grows much more wasteful. If I'm going to put my time and energy in then I have to make it the biggest, best, shiniest I can along the way.

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eh.. I'd just rather haul off 1 resevoir to clean out every week instead of hauling around a crap load of plants to the bathroom. To be honest that's my main reason. Second reason is it seems like i would gain benefit in hydro when in a sog type over a soil grow.

My moms will stay in soil however.. or Coco rather. but enough; I've hijacked WT's thread long enough... sorry WT.

Tis good...thanks D, lol.
I actually enjoy the act of gardening, and honestly, I was not joking before.I gotta have my hands in dirt man. Growing just wouldnt be the same. Call me OLD-fashioned, simple, whatever I accept that.
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Hey WT, we all gotta do what we know, it's how we gain success... doing what we know we can do well...And we've all seen your success in the past...It can only get better bro...

Thanks D!

What friends are for WT

:trooper:sire - there is a large energy disturbance far off in this galaxy and it, it seems to be headed straight towards us.
:vader1:hmmm....
:trooper:sire what should we do?
:vader1: we will wait and see...
(to be continued....)

db:stoned:

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:trooper:sire - there is a large energy disturbance far off in this galaxy and it, it seems to be headed straight towards us.
:vader1:hmmm....
:trooper:sire what should we do?
:vader1: we will wait and see...
(to be continued....)

db:stoned:

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D sit's, light saber in hand...waiting....

:trooper: Sire, is that another sun?
:vader1: 3 leftenant...
:trooper: 3 what Sire?
:vader1: 3 suns...
:trooper: Sire!!! Our systems show that the enemies "3 Sun" weapon will reach us in 3 days!!!
:vader1: Then we prepare..... haaaaa-psshh..haaaa-psssh

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:trooper: Sire, is that another sun?
:vader1: 3 leftenant...
:trooper: 3 what Sire?
:vader1: 3 suns...
:trooper: Sire!!! Our systems show that the enemies "3 Sun" weapon will reach us in 3 days!!!
:vader1: Then we prepare..... haaaaa-psshh..haaaa-psssh

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LMFAO...I guess I don't have to ask if you, if are a fan huh... Whiskey T

I may have watched the wars in space a few times:jointsmile:

I think i'll change my name to Sire. What do you guys think?

LOl....hell yeah weedy

Lol you guys are funny.
I laugh every time I see this thread title.
WEEEE WANT PLAAAANT PICS!!!!1!!

Queen bee....Sire, orders taken, pics up later today! Take some pics of the new room being set up too....oooooh yeah, you know its gettin sweaty in the boom boom room!!!
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UPDATE

First pic is a row of 9 Jawdrop clones. Second pic is the 5 NCDG seedlings. 3rd pic is the clone for the new church mom. 4th pic is the clones I had to put in flower earlier than planned, the go into the bed fri/sat. 5th pic is of the last few HKxBI clones, no others but the jawdrop are being kept.
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how much longer until your plants in pic #5 are done?

How long did you let them veg for after the clones were well rooted before you threw them into flowering?

Just curious. Everything is looking great but honestly I didn't expect anything less coming from you :thumbsup:

First 2 pics are of the sexy church that was a one time mom...Need to name her, she is gonna be one of my biggest yielders in a while. VERY strong big thick branches, good 8 strong tops, 6-7 more decent side branches. Im not pruning any branches off her, might have to clean out some leaf material though, or just LST her. But theres not much light getting towards the bottom. HA!!!! soon that wont be an issue....(:vader1:haaar-pssshh...haaaar-pssssssh)

Last 3 pics are of the one clone I took from the Jawdrop bonsai mom when I started shaping her 8 weeks ago....MMMM....such an amazingly tasty, frosty, juicy nug there...
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how much longer until your plants in pic #5 are done?
maybe a week...10 days
How long did you let them veg for after the clones were well rooted before you threw them into flowering?What I was tellin ya over yonder...20oz styrofoam cup to rootbound, (4-5days) then to the 1gals, vegged for maybe a week....sent em in. These where under the Procyons most of the time too, (the ones almost done)

Just curious. Everything is looking great but honestly I didn't expect anything less coming from you :thumbsup:

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awwww shucks D:rasta:
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I'm old fashion, don't know new slang. But I know Boom boom. It's an old jazz term for doin' it. So, you plant on doing some breeding in this grow room?

Oh, and I have no idea about the energy forces and the light sabers. Is that from some sci fi movie or tv series?

Shol

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I'm old fashion, don't know new slang. But I know Boom boom. It's an old jazz term for doin' it. So, you plant on doing some breeding in this grow room?
Oh, and I have no idea about the energy forces and the light sabers. Is that from some sci fi movie or tv series?
Shol

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LOL...ooh yeah man...be lookin fo some beans to be poppin outta some buds!:greenthumb:


Notice the 4th pic in post 60? Those 5 cones that look like palm trees where the last HKxBI#1 clones...they lost all their lower leaves...weird shit

Nice Church plant!! I get lost in all the sci fi stuff too Shov. We're out of date.

LOL...little movie came out 30 years ago-ish...Star Wars:D

didnt think it was that obscure. oh well, just havin fun:hippy:

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Oh yes....there will be bud.....

'Boom-Boom Room' ... downtown Saigon :jointsmile:

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'Boom-Boom Room' ... downtown Saigon :jointsmile:

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YES!!!!!!!!!!
Exaclty....lolol

Yeah I saw (and liked) the orginal Star Wars but as SOMEONE wisly pointed out it was made about 30 years ago. That's when I saw it too.......now why can't I remember all those cool phrases from the movie....hmmmm.....

As for the other four, five or 10 Star Wars they made......I stopped going to see the movie after the second one. And never regretted it since.

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Yeah I saw (and liked) the orginal Star Wars but as SOMEONE wisly pointed out it was made about 30 years ago. That's when I saw it too.......now why can't I remember all those cool phrases from the movie....hmmmm.....

As for the other four, five or 10 Star Wars they made......I stopped going to see the movie after the second one. And never regretted it since.

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You didn't miss much.. Empire Strikes Back is by far the best out of the original trilogy and the best out of all 6 movies total.

You got out at just the right time :hippy:

None of those where quotes from the movie....lol
They are us talking about the great force that should be here by tomorrow...:greenthumb:

Oops......apologize for being a sourpuss.....what's coming tomorrow....in English?

Come on Friday, it's been too long!

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Come on Friday, it's been too long!

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LOL!!!!!!!!!

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Oops......apologize for being a sourpuss.....what's coming tomorrow....in English?

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Ah...the boom boom room is open for business tomorrow! Gonna be a sweaty, sext day...heh. Unless everything shipped wed, if so we wont get it till mon...GRRR
Tomorrow if all is good, the subtle hints will be over, and the secrets will be shown!!!! (another generic evil laugh)
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'Boom-Boom Room' ... downtown Saigon :jointsmile:

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The joint was always hopping...:rambohead::rastabanna::jumphappy:

Building materials and the up's guy jsut arrived!
Pics up tonight when Im done fabricating the boom boom room....
Bow chika bow-wow

the usps guy might have something too. stranger stuff has happened, right?