They seem much happier now.
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They seem much happier now.
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there looken great. so what size of bigger pot did U move then up to.
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Cheers, hydrocannabis, I'm not 100% sure of the volume of the pots, it's not listed. They are about 10"x10" and about 7 litre/2 gallon, I imagine.
I potted up the runt because I hope to get them all into flower within the next couple of weeks. I'm going by the size of the largest of them, the runt will have to cope. They are getting bigger and bushier and it is great fun to open the cabinet every morning with a "wow".
Here they are this morning:
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And a shot from yesterday of one of them out from under the strange light of the HPS:
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wow look at how much they have grow in 5 days. cant wate to see em flowering.
Hey PJ,
What nute feeding schedule did you decide on then with the bio grow? 1 in every 2 or 3? Loving the names you have given them as well!!
Plants are looking real nice!!
Cheers.
Sorry for having been a bit inactive latelly Jane.
Been quite buzy harvesting and setting up for next grow here. :)
The girls are looking really nice :)
Gonna give you some nice smoke, in fact just the kind I am lighting....right now here. :P
Puff Puff
I completely understand, Puffzter. :rastasmoke:
I've been a bit disorganised with it, if I'm honest. I was doing a water-water-feed but there was a time they got it early so it turned into water-feed-water. I have been going with what the plants want (they show you signs of what they need) until I get a better feel for it. Since there are so many varied opinions on what is best for a plant and still good results in those varied ways I don't think it makes a huge difference unless you are going to extremes. I think what works for one person and their plants may or may not for another. I could never work out if it was better to give smaller doses every watering or more every other or what. I'm too new and too confused to be strict on that so I'm just going with it, that flow. :jointsmile:Quote:
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They are getting big and I need to get them into flower. I potted them up last night (into 30cm/12" pots, approx 11 litre/2.5 gallon) and ran into a big problem, literally. I do not have enough room for 5 large pots in there. :buzz_saw:
I had to leave the runt/twin in the smaller pot with a smaller tray and prop it up, and I am still having a hard time closing the door. It's crammed! Thank feck I fitted magnetic latches to the doors when this thing was built. I never wanted or expected to have 5 plants. I thought planting 4 seeds would give me 4 plants, if I was lucky. Realistically this cabinet is really only suitable for 3. We'll see what happens. I plan to 12/12 them in 3-4 days because I am not sure I can even wait the typical ideal of 7-10 days after their pot-up.
They got 2ml per litre of BioBizz Grow and 1 teaspoon of molasses per litre too. The thirsty bitches were breaking my back lugging them and that slosh around.
Here they are this morning:
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I know it's too soon to tell but is this a promising sign of a female or have I been staring too long at nothing?
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On Sunday I put these big bitches on 12/12. I have lost a few tips of fan leaves to the door, which is incredibly difficult to shut. I can't spare an inch in there. 3 is the max that cabinet can comfortably take. Their roots are already poking out of the bottom of these new pots so I do hope root growth slows as its supposed to in flower because they are bloody well staying in those pots.
Last night when the lights went out one of them grew over an inch because when the lights came on it had hit the reflector hood.
Here is is that one:
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They got a watering I got a back-ache.
You just wait for the stretch you will get after you switch to 12/12. Hell will break loose for a couple of weeks. :P
Roots will slow right down though.
Looking really good Jane. Nice cabinet grow you've got going there.
I have butter simmering on the stove here by the way. :) I'll let you know how our Dutch Passion WW's are for baking. Thinking Blueberry muffins or something like that. Hi hi. It might be ready for a test batch late tonight already.
Puffzter, hehe, that sounds lovely!
Oh and I meant that I did switch them on sunday (technically saturday night) so they've had their first 12 light and 12 dark already, and this is their second 12 hours of daytime right now. Last night that one shot up by about an inch, maybe even 2. I couldn't believe it when I opened it up this morning. I am prepared to feel a slight panic when they stretch way up. :D
Ah ok. Thought you were about to switch this sunday.
Well then it has started, It will keep on for 2-3 weeks then slow down and you will get a small period again for a couple of days a week later or so. I got about 1 metre growth during those stretch periods.
After that they more or less don't grow an inch the last 4 weeks.
ONE METRE?! :eek: Shiiiiiiiit! http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1449/thudsf7.gif
If push comes to hard shove I can put the shelf down but it would be a right pain in the arse, so I hope I don't have to. That space beneath is supposed to be the clone station for another day.
Thanks for the info. :jointsmile: And enjoy your rewards, a mighty fine grow you've had with these.
i put my ww in flower from 4-6 in. clones and in the first 2 weeks they jump to 2ft.
i also nute every other watering they seem to like it better than wter,water ,feed for me but i only give thenm each 8-10 oz. of water or food per feeding so i water every other day
Day 4 of flower and growing like weeds. :jointsmile:
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The wonky tilted light is to accommodate that big tall one in the back. I can't believe that one was the last one to sprout from seed too. Look at her!
They are growing about an inch or more at night. They all have teeny tiny signs of calyxes too so it looks like they may all be keepers. Blimey.
I still have a few mysterious rust coloured spots on some of the newish growth so I'm going to do a bit of epsom salts because I keep coming back to possible Mg deficiency and I know a bit of MgSO4 is good for them a few times in their life.
very good 3 page read so far jane, i will keep watching this one can't wait for the end results!!!
1 week of flower and they have grown so much that I had to remove the lower shelf to accommodate their height. I'll have to watch my growth more carefully next time, I was lucky to even have this option. I planned on having that lower portion of the cabinet for clones but hadn't gotten around to it for this grow. I was too determined to have 5-6 weeks of veg and I don't think I can go that long in the future. As I've said before, part of the problem is that the cabinet is WAY too full. 5 plants is too many for that space, at least untrained and allowed to veg for this long. 3 plants with about 1-2 weeks less veg time would be perfect. Live and learn.
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That cabinet is 2 metres (6'5) tall, for reference. When I stand next to the one in the back left it comes up mid-waist on lil ol' me. :o I have a spiffing good time trying to move them around and water them. :wtf: It's all part of the fun.
Wow, great job, they really grew like weeds !
You can still expect some stretching, I just hope, for you, that they don't too tall.
There are some options still to slow the stretching a bit and I would reccomend that you strip off the lowest vegetation as well. No leaves etc at least for the lowest 4 inches or so. I stripped the lowest 12 inches on my 4-5 foot plants and that was a gradual thing. Take some everytime you tend to them.
The benefit is you direct more energy to where the high grade is produced but even more importantly you allow for better airflow in under the canopy.
The absolutelly most important building block (given you have sufficient light) for a plant is carbon and ALL of it comes from the air.
Look at your grow room and try to figure out how the air moves from intake to exhaust. You want air to come in, move to the centre of the plants still on floor level and then get sucked up through the canopy.
Try to make that path as easy as possible for the air and you will get more and better weed for it. :)
Looking awesomne by the way.
To stop the stretch a bit you can break the main stem of the plants a bit under the forming colas. Sounds drastic and I guess it is but I did it to a few of mine as last solution and they got stunned for a few days then continiued like nothing had happened but at an angle, a week later I broke them again and made them grow like the letter "Z" almost. Feels like a terrible thing to do and a hanging top cola is no fun to watch but a few days later it just mends and starts aiming for the light again but at an angle. ;)
Might be something to consider if it starts to become a serious problem. Also in a tight space like yours an even canopy is an absolute must so it might come to that even for canopy reasons if you have some that grow faster or slower than the others.
It's just this time anyway, in the future I guess you as me will use clones.
Puffzter
I did the same thing, five times, five plants. Each one was an accident, I swear....:thumbsup:...I was trying to bend them over. Same results, they just made a U-turn back up towards the light...Go figure? I don't think you can kill white widow...it's a killer weed.Quote:
To stop the stretch a bit you can break the main stem of the plants a bit under the forming colas. Sounds drastic and I guess it is but I did it to a few of mine as last solution and they got stunned for a few days then continiued like nothing had happened but at an angle, a week later I broke them again and made them grow like the letter "Z" almost. Feels like a terrible thing to do and a hanging top cola is no fun to watch but a few days later it just mends and starts aiming for the light again but at an angle.
Hehe, been thinking the same many times.
Got warned a bit for starting with White Widow as they were supposed to be grumpy but they are fucking imortal.
Kept them on 2300ppm for 2 weeks, broke them, had light leaks, poison tent, bad pH for a period and what have you.
Feminized damn plants and still they just came back for more without a nut ever forming between them. Averaged 2 ounces/plant cured and ready, not one seed.
The genetics is rock solid. The last living thing to die on this planet will be someones Dutch Passion Feminized White Widow.
I agree. I hope y'all are careful with that thingy: LHC... over there...:thumbsup:Quote:
The genetics is rock solid. The last living thing to die on this planet will be someones Dutch Passion Feminized White Widow.
Lol, yeah we will be.
I don't think Switzerland is very likelly to turn into a black hole consuming the solar system anytime soon though :D
Poor Jane.
Oh oh oh! Lots of new posts in my thread. :D
WTF is this shit! Shoo
We stayed on topic best we could hun' it's 4.20 after all :rastasmoke:
Thank you again, Puffzter. :) :thumbsup: I think I'll do a bit of lower trimming. They are not getting much light down there and I know the air flow has to be fairly limited. This many plants in that space is pretty far from ideal. Strange turnout with the twin seed, I still can't believe it. I abuse that little runt, I didn't even pot it up because it wouldn't fit in there with the big pot and I didn't give a shit. Wouldn't you know it, the little twerp just keeps going. It was even the first to show its sex. I think it was a survival thing because it knew it would be first to get the boot at the first sign of trouble. I could almost hear it saying "No, see? I'm a good girl! Don't kill me!" Well you're safe for now, peewee. :D
My plants are odd like this. That really tall one was the last seed to germinate. I even briefly thought of giving up on it because it was a couple days behind the others. SURPRISE! She's a behemoth! If ever there was a plant that might be in for the Puffzter Z shape alteration, that's it. We shall see.
I wonder if every grow is going to be so quirky, I imagine so, one way or another. Fun times. :jointsmile:
And I liked the little thread topic turn, it made me laugh and all laughs are welcomed here.
Greetings PJ -
I'm thoroughly enjoying your antics with the Simpsons. Beautiful cabinet and great plants. Subscribed. :thumbsup:
Luck,
Crabby
nice grow plain jain ... first time I saw this thread... very impressed
Jane, this looks like a great grow. I'll be following this.
Can you give some specifics on your cab? I'm really impressed with it. Dimensions...how you built it and how long...etc. Just whenever you get the chance it would be great.
I did a closet grow with a 400w HPS when I was in college. It was a ghetto grow with bagseed...but I will do another grow in about a year and like how you've got yours set up. Definitely looking for a good cabinet style grow.
Keep up the good work...your plants look great. I'm pulling for the little one!
I second Deephouser's request. Would love to hear all about your lovely cabinet. :clap:
Crabby
Lovely WWs! It does look dank down on the forest floor. That's why I cut 4-6 of the first lower branches right off early. Let the later (higher) growth have the light and energy.
Thank you everyone. And I did do a bit more trimming of the lower branches. I'll post some photos in the next couple days.
About the cabinet:
Ikea PAX 100x60x201 (cm) - All white
Electrics:
Surge protected power strip
Contactor
Digital timer
Light:
250W HPS + suited ballast (kit) + adjustable height suspension things
Exhaust:
RVK100 A1 fan + suited carbon filter + ducting (kit)
(Passive) Intake:
4 x ~2" black PVC pipe L shape intakes + insect screening over the external part of the intakes
Misc:
White plastic sheeting (for the shelf, now removed because those bitches got tall fast!)
Hole saw (drill bits for intake/exhaust holes)
Chain to support the carbon filter
Various hooks/screws/etc.
Magnetic catches to keep doors closed
Heat resistant foil tape
Draught excluder door seal (closes nice and made it light proof)
2 x small fans
It was a bit of a buggeryfucker to put together but sort of fun at the same time. It took a couple of days and a couple hours each day, I'd guess. The costs have certainly added up but I am very happy with the result. I've seen some shoddy cabinets and I didn't want one of those for myself. It's an investment and worthwhile done right.
If I had it to do over again I would do slightly bigger exhaust/intake.
That does it! "Snowball" is probably just a few inches away from being taller than I am. Aside from being a nuisance, I find it bloody cheeky of her! :rasta:
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It is 2 weeks into flower now and little buds are starting to form. It truly does amaze me to watch this whole process.
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I am the same in that respect. I take so much pleasure in just seeing the grow progress.
I see the growing as the reward in itself and the weed as a damn nice bonus.
You have some really nice weeks in front of you. :D
Puffzter
incredible grow, thanks for the info on mine, yours look great, and i cant wait till harvest, but seeing your grow made me question my light height so im of to go play.also the thing about stagnant air below the rim of the pot, thats a very good point.:jointsmile:
Its all about air and light. The rest is a given, I mean everyone understand that plants need a medium, nutes and water.
Trim the plants, feed them and help them on their way but make sure most energy goes into getting them as much light and air you can possibly do. Just like she's been doing the last week. :D
Hey PlainJane,
Glad to see all is going well, if not a little too croweded in the simpsons house!!
I've just finished the first week of flowering and am pretty sure I have one male out of the four which I have taken out and now sits in my kitchen as a little house plant and room odouriser!! ;) Well pleased with 1 in 4 though, first time grow, none feminised seeds and the others are looking pretty good as well. Very happy camper!!
Glad all is going well, with yours, will keep checking in!!
I like those cabinets...checked them out online. Looks slick.
Do you think that a 400W in a cooltube would be overkill? I think that's about 6 square feet...or roundabouts there.
Your setup is nice...how is the odor control working out for you?
I imagine 400w cooltube it would be OK if slightly overkill. You may have some heat troubles so you'll need a good amount of extraction. I wish I'd gone with a bigger extraction and more intake for that reason. It's not a problem NOW but I probably won't grow in the summer because of it. I'm not bothered, I can't be arsed with growing then anyway. Too many things to do in summer outside of the house. The other 3 seasons are for stocking up!Quote:
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The odour control has been fine so far. When I open the doors it pongs something mad but with doors shut you wouldn't have a clue.
Get an Amazon. :)
I went from tending to my plants 1h/day to 5 minutes every 2-3 days.
That is a damn nice system.
Amazons are brilliant, I would love to have one someday! In the future I plan to invest more cash for gear and space into this hobby but for now I am maxed out on both.
These kids are getting big! That tall one in the back is about 133cm (52") from the cab floor up. With that few inches of raised space between my floor and the floor inside the cab, this stands her at eye level with me. That bitch is going to win the height stand-off! It's not bloody fair, I tell you!
In compliance with my apparent short woman syndrome, I shall wear heels to tend to my big show-offs once they tower over my 5' stature.
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Hate to say I told you so hehe.
Big plants make big stash though. :rastasmoke:
Oh, you don't hate it any more than I do! :rastasmoke:
It is funny that I originally got into this for the end result, the quality weed stash, but found that the whole experience is thoroughly enjoyable and fascinating. I imagine I still have some tense and confusing moments ahead. The fat lady has not sung yet.
I still need a hefty dehumidifier. 70% humidity late in flower sounds like risky business. I don't know what it is with this house, it is never under 60% in here. I think I shower/bathe too much. :D