Episode 4: The Clone Colonies

thanks for the rep boost. sounds like great minds think alike. we could probabaly be friends in real life. i'm not in to bullshitting or listening to any of it and from your other threads neither are you. you might just be my doppleganger (big word alert, don't get to use that one much). I have read alot of your threads and it amazes me that people will argue so heatedly with obviously no practical expirience. there are a bunch of know nothing turds out there. I just feel like screaming " pick up a book first then get your hands dirty then talk to me in a year cause until then you probably don't know shit" I wouldn't tell a doctor how to perform surgery. why would they tell me how to grow. sorry a little off the subject but i seriously feel your pain when those types want to argue

yeah, yeah, brush dem' shoulda's off

Yeah...we are using CO2 boost as well....
whiskeytango

I was lookin into the Co2 BOOST as well howz it workin fer' ya

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The little gnats are fucking back...I swear to god these things are worse than german cockroaches... with the pyrethin bomb, larvicide, fungicide, and the cold nights, I don't know how these things haven't died...
whiskeytango

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try Diatomaceous Earth

SnS did your avatar come fro sirsmokesalot, he's got the same one...lol..
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Got it off google images...guess Ill change it again...lol
Lookin very lovely in the flower room. The clones are all crowned over, and the other 8 are getting ready to come out...My 420Scope should be here tomorrow, and Ill have pics up then...
whiskeytango

There...this is my dog manson...doubt anyone has this avee...lol
whiskeytango

Hey I liked the smokin infant wher'd he go
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First pic is the Church mum doing her damn thing...Other two are the clones...about 18 days flower, and avg 12in tall....yipee
whiskeytango

Few plan changes...Seeing how well the Church that was hacked did in a 5 gal...I cloned the church mum we got (week old pic below) only 4 cuttings, and Im gonna veg her a wee bit longer, and transplant to a 5 gal...Thinking it may be the first QP LED grown plant:woohoo:
The HK#5 was frosty, but in the end, #4 was just as frosty and much fatter, so I culled the HK5 mum, and chopped for bonsai the HK4.
HK#2 will also be getting culled out, took 5 clones for filing the rooms sake, but culled the mum. Either a NCDG or Yeags MTF x BI wil be taking its place.
SO....15 clones cut, 13 to be going in the flowering room soon as episode 3s girls are done.
Pics tomorrow on the clones in veg, clones in flower, and the mums....lol
whiskeytango

me likey the perpetual harvest yall got going on there, I can't wait to get back up and runnin myself. you guys r making me jealous with all your cannabis porno shots... keep it comin

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Hello, I've been reading and lurking for some time now and am really impressed. I've also been following the Procyon and LED grows at Experiments with Hydroponics, Aeroponics, and LED Grow Lighting. The LED grows seem to be getting better and better. Did you see Ryan's test of the SmartLamps? Truly awesome, but at $1400 a pop it's just a bit much.

SNS, do you think a fruitful seed to bud grow can be attained with the Procyon without any supplemental lights? Let's say the grow room is 9sq ft and all other systems are working well.

Thanks and looking forward to continued reading and learning.

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Hello, I've been reading and lurking for some time now and am really impressed. I've also been following the Procyon and LED grows at Experiments with Hydroponics, Aeroponics, and LED Grow Lighting. The LED grows seem to be getting better and better. Did you see Ryan's test of the SmartLamps? Truly awesome, but at $1400 a pop it's just a bit much.

SNS, do you think a fruitful seed to bud grow can be attained with the Procyon without any supplemental lights? Let's say the grow room is 9sq ft and all other systems are working well.

Thanks and looking forward to continued reading and learning.

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Your answers my young padawan....lie in our first thread "LED Growing-An Instructional Grow Log. Link in the siggy....warning...its 1000+ posts long...But it was a pure LED grow, from seed to bud under the procyons...
whiskeytango

Thanks for your reply.

I have read and scanned that set of posts several times and here's my synthisis of 48 pages of posts in LED growing- An instructional grow log, 17 pages of Episode 3 and the few pages here to a couple of sentences.

Yep it can be done all LED but you'll get a bigger yield if you add full spectrum floros or HID as in Episode 3 with the T12 floros. And for your next grow you plan on adding HID 70's? The upshot is LED good. but adding HID or floros is better?

I know this is all experimental and learn as you grow but do you think adding other lights to the mix is best?

Correct,
We have found that something is definitely lacking with the LEDs. Dont get me wrong, you will still get some super dank with a procyon alone, but the yield and it appears finishing time are effected. So, IMHO, (and a few others I guess) adding the 3 70W HPS to the mix will give them the far-red/infrared that they need, or at least that we think we need. We could do this with LEDs, but the specific ones needed like the 730Nm are very expensive and sparse. So for now, we feel the HPS will do best. Damn sure cant hurt...lol
The floros, although only used for about 75% of the flowering cycle arent doing shit at the height we have to have em, so they are for the birds...
whiskeytango

Im too stoned...picks tomorrow when more of the Episode 3 girls come down.

P.S.S (whatever) lookin like NCDG is gonna be in the line up!!!:woohoo:

is this the 70w light you're talking about?

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is this the 70w light you're talking about?

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link doesnt work. its the one that is meant to be aimed straight down with a circular lampshade(?) aiming the light to the ground. of course well be mounting them differently.

db:smokin:

Aww funk, it was there yesterday. They also had a 50 watter.

Yes it's the one that points down and has a little hat on top. I'll be interested in seeing how it's taken apart and remounted.

GrowBoy

Stay tuned...you soon shall see, lol.
whiskeytango

Replacement Procyon received, as well as the NCDG( NorCal DaddysGirl) so 6 of them are in a wet towel.
whiskeytango

when are the HD HPS's being implemented
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Within 2 weeks...Some reverse engineering is required...lol
whiskeytango

This is the original Church mother, but due to her gorgeous thick bushy self, I took another clone to mum, and this lovely lady is going in the 5gal, for hopefully the first qp of a plant in LED. The other is the flowering clones. I took 15 more at the beginning of the week, post some pics later of them.
Also have 5 lovely NCDG sprouts. Big plans here, hoping to hell for a daddy outta the bunch, if not, I germ the other 10.

Cont'd.....
Here is a bonsai mum of ms frosty from episode 3. Chopped her down, and now she is thriving well, and wrapping good!! A few more pics of the Church SOG clones.
whiskeytango

veddy veddy nice. led.:D
the buds R looling great.:thumbsup:

Thanks dro...like my first bonsai attempt?
whiskeytango

groovy looking.

Yeah, for shits n giggles, Im gonna shape her all artsy lookin, lol...see what I can do, she will give A LOT of cuttings already.
whiskeytango

Beautiful WT very impressed with the resin production with those leds would love to put some in my op... I would love to go vertical HPS with supplemental LEDS overhead I think they would compliment each other very nicely...

But at the same time I've got to give props to you and DB for the increased level of skill that's apparent in your grows... you've came along way since the 1st grow log, impressive...I'm absolutely staying tuned for the next episodes and seasons of the SnS show...even though I'm hooked on Dexter right now I'll still find time for your show

later D

lol, thanks D! stop over at go check out Eipisode 3 on demand, lol. Put up a bunch o bud pron:giggity:
whiskeytango

WT, I just came from episode 3 on your cue to visit episode 4..lovely trich's my brudda, lovely indeed...

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Is that Church all part of the same one plant you started with?

Sure is weedy....VERY special girls she is:thumbsup: The harvested church in episode 3 and this one are from the same one plant in....april? I think? took 3 clones of of this one to make a nother mum, and I am definitely thinkin a qp of this one in a 5 gal...fingers crossed
whisekytango

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Beautiful WT very impressed with the resin production with those leds would love to put some in my op... I would love to go vertical HPS with supplemental LEDS overhead I think they would compliment each other very nicely...
But at the same time I've got to give props to you and DB for the increased level of skill that's apparent in your grows... you've came along way since the 1st grow log, impressive...I'm absolutely staying tuned for the next episodes and seasons of the SnS show...even though I'm hooked on Dexter right now I'll still find time for your show
later D

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Now thats kinda spooky...Stay tuned for some big surprises for " Episode 5: The____ Strikes back!" :greenthumb:
whiskeytango

Very green and happy! And they will finish in about 9 weeks at 24" tall?

No way man, I am assuming its the LEDs, but we went qlmost 12 weeks on 3 7-9 week strains....ick
whiskeytango

SnS is this why you feel the future implementation of hps is necessary...

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in a nutshell...yeah
whiskeytango

I've scanned all your LED threads thus far, and I'm super stoked about your results. Thanks so much for the info and experimentation. I'll continue to follow your progress. Cheers.


beardo.