aaactually, it is more likely that a 16 year old girl will give birth to a child w/ down syndrome, due to the high amounts of pregnancies in that age-group.Quote:
Originally Posted by thcbongman
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aaactually, it is more likely that a 16 year old girl will give birth to a child w/ down syndrome, due to the high amounts of pregnancies in that age-group.Quote:
Originally Posted by thcbongman
PWN3D!Quote:
Originally Posted by daihashi
And I'm a Republican. However I feel that REAL Republicans are really Libertarians. Our party has been hijacked by religious fanaticts.
But remember, the Dem party is the same way.
It's a good thing that on a person by person basis.. statistically, 16 year olds don't give birth to down syndrome babies.Quote:
Originally Posted by vej33
Let's argue semantics more?
Good ol' abstinence, never fails..
I think it would be interesting if Palins daughter wanted to have an abortion, i doubt she'd be allowed her own choice in the matter. Palin's already confirmed she's having it. Though it's the child's (yes child) responsability to look after herself in these matter, for me this is an example of bad parenting and education. Learn how to use a condom, it's pretty simple.
It's ironic that right after I finished reading this thread, I clicked on CNN only to see Wolf Blitzer making a big deal about Palin's daughter's pregnancy. They really have nothing better to talk about all day..
^ CNN doesn't have priorities!?
MY GOD MAN!
Palin says 17-year-old daughter is pregnant
By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer
Sept. 1 2008
John McCain's running mate Sarah Palin said Monday that her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is five months pregnant, an announcement campaign aides said was aimed at rebutting Internet rumors that Palin's youngest son, born in April, was actually her daughter's.
A statement released by the campaign said that Bristol Palin will keep her baby and marry the child's father. Bristol Palin's baby is due in late December.
"Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. We're proud of Bristol's decision to have her baby and even prouder to become grandparents," Sarah and Todd Palin said in the brief statement.
The disclosure of the pregnancy came on the opening day of the Republican National Convention, scaled back because of Hurricane Gustav, and three days after McCain named Palin as his running mate.
The other news was likely to overshadow the disclosure.
The first-term Alaska governor was in Minnesota preparing for her acceptance speech when the campaign issued the statement; her family was home in Alaska.
"Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family," they added.
The father was identified in the statement as Levi, but the campaign said it was not disclosing his full name or age or how he and Bristol know each other, citing privacy.
Sarah Palin's fifth child, a son named Trig, was born in April with Down syndrome. Internet bloggers have been suggesting that the child was actually born to Bristol Palin but that her mother, the 44-year-old Alaska governor, claimed to be the mother.
Palin spokesman Bill McAllister emphatically denied those rumors, and McCain adviser Mark Salter said the campaign announced the daughter's pregnancy to rebut them.
"Senator McCain's view is this is a private family matter. As parents, (the Palins) love their daughter unconditionally and are going to support their daughter," said McCain spokesman Steve Schmidt.
"Life happens," he said.
"An American family," added Salter.
The advisers said Palin told them about the pregnancy during lengthy discussions about her background. At several points during the discussions, McCain's team warned Palin that the scrutiny into her private life would be intense and that there was nothing she could do to prepare for it.
Advisers said Palin's daughter should be afforded privacy like the other candidates' children. Said Schmidt: "If people try to politicize this, the American people will be appalled."
In Monroe, Mich., Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama condemned rumors involving the children of candidates and echoed the McCain campaign argument. Said Obama: "I think people's families are off limits, and people's children are especially off limits."
Obama adamantly denied anonymous claims that his campaign helped spread the rumors.
"I am offended by that statement," Obama said. "Our people were not involved in any way in this, and they will not be. And if I ever thought that there was somebody in my campaign that was involved in something like that, they'd be fired."
Prominent religious conservatives, many of whom have been lukewarm toward McCain's candidacy, predicted that Palin's daughter's pregnancy would not diminish conservative Christian enthusiasm for the vice presidential hopeful, a staunch abortion opponent.
Focus on the Family founder James Dobson issued a statement commending the Palins for "for not just talking about their pro-life and pro-family values, but living them out even in the midst of trying circumstances." He added: "Being a Christian does not mean you're perfect. Nor does it mean your children are perfect. But it does mean there is forgiveness and restoration when we confess our imperfections to the Lord."
Roberta Combs, president of the Christian Coalition of America called the pregnancy private. "It's a matter that should stay in the family and they have to work through it together. My prayers go out to them."
Added Combs: "We're excited about the governor and think she's going to do well."
Mathew Staver, dean of Liberty University School of Law, said: "We're all sinners."
"We all make mistakes. Certainly, the ideal is not to get pregnant out of wedlock. But she made the right decision after her mistake," he said.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080901/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_palin_daughter
Oh a Bush joke! HAHAHAHAHA!
THAT'S topical!
100% correct. The republicans have moved too far left for my liking. I think the "true" repubs will start moving to the libertarian side eventually.Quote:
Originally Posted by rebgirl420
And here I thought we were beyond that.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Billionfold
Have a good one!:s4:
Yup, I made the change in 04.Quote:
Originally Posted by killerweed420
It's good to see other Pennsylvanians who don't throw themselves at the Democrats.
FYI
to me, it's now confirmed as "reality" as blunt as a baseball bat in the face!
Teen daughter of GOP VP pick is pregnant - CNN.com
now rip each others throats apart, while i sit back and enjoy the scene, u lefties and righties!:D
Her husband was busted for drunk driving in the past too. Kind of sounds like the Kennedys if ya ask me.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by flyingimam
Have a good one!:s4:
Nah the Kennedy's were more "slick" about it ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
This whole pregnant daughter thing is a non-issue --- a private family matter. It will probably be more of an issue for the social conservative and religious-right elements of the GOP that Palin was supposed to attract. Some will wonder if Palin lives the "family values" life she is supposed to be living and wonder about her parenting skills, and others will point to the decision to actually have the baby as evidence of the family's pro-life beliefs. I personally couldn't give a flying fart either way.
I will say though that the abistinance-only sex education policy that Palin advocates does not work. It obviously did not work with her own daughter. Maybe if her daughter had been taught something about contraception, she would not have got knocked up.
This is dead wrong in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by daihashi
The Vice President should be equally qualified to be President. The primary role of a Vice President is to assume the office of the President, and that person needs to be ready to do it. In fact they need to be able to immediately step into the role during a TIME OF CRISIS -- the death of the sitting President, possibly an assassination or act of war.
Most of the time they aren't called to perform this duty, so it may seem like the office is not a "position of heavy burden/responsibility." But that's like saying it's fine to have crappy insurance because you almost never use it. When you need it, you better have damn good insurance, and a damn good VP.
John McCain has hammered Barack Obama for being too inexperienced to be President. And Obama has replied that he exercises better judgment than McCain, despite the difference in experience. With McCainâ??s choice for Vice President, Obama wins that argument.
Unlike the selection of Obama as the Democratic candidate, which was made by the millions of Democrats who voted in the Democratic primary, the selection of the even less experienced Sarah Palin was McCainâ??s choice alone, and it shows his poor judgment.
Palinâ??s only political experience is her service as a city council member and then mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, a town with a population half the size of the very smallest town in my county, and her brief 20 months as governor of Alaska, a state with a population one third smaller than my county.
Have you ever attended a city council meeting or county board of supervisors meeting? I have been to many of them and used to attend them regularly as a stringer reporter. In towns this size, mostly we are talking about things like zoning variances or whether a stoplight is required at a particular intersection. Maybe there is some kind of negotiation with the garbage company. Often positions at that level are not even considered full-time paid positions, and the office holders work part time and collect stipends instead of salaries. Meetings are usuallly twice a month, or less. Dealing with issues at that level does not prepare someone to deal with the complex national-level issues of governing a world superpower like the United States.
McCain kept pounding away about how a President needs to be ready from day one. Palin doesnâ??t meet McCainâ??s own criterion that the Vice President must be someone who is ready to be President from day one. McCain exercised poor judgment in picking her, especially when compared to Obamaâ??s excellent judgment in picking the indisputably qualified Joe Biden.
If this is the kind of decision-making we can expect from McCain, I don't want to see him anywhere near the White House. Picking Palin was either a completely dumbass blunder, or a desperate Hail Mary gamble, and either way, it's not what I want from a president.
Typicaly the choice of Vice President does not help the ticket all that much, if at all, but it can be a serious liability. I think McCain picked a serious liability.
true, Mccain indeed has a good probability not to finish his term in office even if he doesnt die or anythin... a mere sickness or mental pressure for that matter can have harsh implications on a guy his age, and this job makes those men who went in with younger looking black hair, to walk out with major white areas on their heads! it makes u old, i donno what can it do to an already old person!Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonrider
So, the VP especially in this particular election and for McCain, is very important to be as good as the possible next president himself who has worked most of his campaign on the "experience" issue...
anyways
Paulin is a shoe in for 'Catholic's and Bible thumpers!' I'd even say, Mormon, You name it. Biden will not pull an religious vote. That is Obama's weak spot due to his dispute with his minister, etc.! Perhaps, other reasons, but that was the most obvious! PR
Once again, personal attacks NOT allowed. Not that hard of a concept. Gifts were given to ALL offenders.
This one is CLOSED!
Have a good one!:jointsmile: