Schapelle Corby

It's incredible the lies that just spew out.

Latest lie: "This, combined with the 5 year reduction Ms Corby won at appeal, brought me to my earlier estimate of 10 years."

The 20 year sentence was re-imposed at a later appeal. FACT. Even Wikipedia is right on that one. Check ANY site that describes this case in fact. You clearly know next to nothing about it.

She also lost her remission rights on the pretext of a cellphone in her cell. The real reason is almost certainly her book.


Is it any wonder I get frustrated when some people will go to any lengths to distort this, and resort to direct lies to support their campaign?



But I do understand defamation laws in Australia. You cannot cannot accuse someone of stealing/scamming without proving that they are doing so. It is libel. You libelled the family. Any tinpot lawyer could tell you that.

This just in from the newsdesk.....

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I'm not a lawyer.

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It shows.

If you accuse someone of being a thief, and they are not, it is libel. Twist and turn all you wish, but it IS libel. The Corbys are not "scamming dollars online". And the only accusation of this I have ever seen is here.

The fact that you continue to allow this libel to continue on this forum is reckless and far from reasonable. It does you no credit at all.

BTW: You are even quoting the wrong source of the libel! As you defend it, I thought you might at least identify who actually posted!

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It's incredible the lies that just spew out.

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Please source these lies and prove that they are lies.

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Latest lie: "This, combined with the 5 year reduction Ms Corby won at appeal, brought me to my earlier estimate of 10 years."

The 20 year sentence was re-imposed at a later appeal. FACT. Even Wikipedia is right on that one. Check ANY site that describes this case in fact. You clearly know next to nothing about it.

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Are you relying on wikipedia for your information? Why not provide a more credible source. The burden of evidence and proof is on you and no one else. You are the one who are calling people liars here.

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Is it any wonder I get frustrated when some people will go to any lengths to distort this, and resort to direct lies to support their campaign?

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If by distorting this you mean acknowledging the fact that she broke international law, then yes I would have to agree with you. However I most assuringly know that this is not what you're referring to. Take my sarcasm with a grain of salt.

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But I do understand defamation laws in Australia. You cannot cannot accuse someone of stealing/scamming without proving that they are doing so. It is libel. You libelled the family. Any tinpot lawyer could tell you that

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Defamation across a website. A forum. Again I guarantee you that any prosecution would scoff at this if you brought it to them for legal matters. So again I bring to your attention that making threats or bringing to attention legal rights over something that is irrelevant really just makes it seem as if you're purposefully trying to rub people the wrong way.

Lastly there is a LARGE difference between public/personal opinion and defamation. For instance.. I could say

"I feel that Steve V guy is a jerk." This is not defamation.. or libel.. this is my opinion.

"That Steve V guy is a liar and a cheat." That is libel/defamation. As you are not stating it as opinion but rather as fact.

The only person I've seen commit that act here is YOU!

Since you chose to use Sarah louise's words out of context I will post the full sentence:

"Mine lead me to believe that so long as she is in Bali and the family is busy scamming dollars online, Australia is a better place"

By simply using "lead me to believe" the statement becomes opinion and not an assertion of fact.

If you would like I would be more than happy to post some "libel" against you and I would love to see you try to take me to court or ANYONE over it. All of your posts reak of immaturity and wanting to force your beliefs and ideals onto others. When others do not comply with what yo usay you seem to throw a tantrum and REALLY REALLY reach to paint them as if they have done something wrong.

You sir are immature and enjoy wasting forum resources.

I purposefully phrased that statement like that so you can see what true libel is. Now go contact your attorney. I'll have mine waiting for you for a counter suit :thumbsup:

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It shows.

If you accuse someone of being a thief, and they are not, it is libel. Twist and turn all you wish, but it IS libel.

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*sighs* For my comments here at can.com to defame someone in Australia they would have to demonstrate the way in which my comments have changed the public perception of the them in a negative manner.

On this, I'm well within the mainstream of public opinion on the matter. My views are not novel in Australia.

On a side note and in deference to an actual Australian precedent, if "the family" were to experience negative treatment in the USA because I changed public opinion of them by posting something bogus in a forum based in the USA, then I might be found guilty of defamation.

Do you really think that what I have said is so inflammatory that anyone linked by blood or marriage would experience a different reception in the USA as a result of my statements?

Come on, really?

If, however, a registered business, for argument sake let's use Schapelle Corby PTY LTD, could demonstrate that I had in some way made lasting damage to their brand name, they could then seek punitive damages. These damages though relate solely to the loss of trade of the brand name, in Australia companies are not imbued with a persona and cannot seek damages in the way an individual can, if defamation can be proved.

Are you still pretending to be some dude who found this stuff on the internet and was appalled? Your focus on me, your ludicrous interpretations of law... all it does is convince me further that you are touting for the Corby cause and your post is spam.

I explained how I arrived at 10 years. If you want to email the centre for Indonesian studies at Australia national university, I'm sure they will be happy to explain 'rubber time' to you.

You claim that I am telling bald faced porkies, yet you do nothing to demonstrate the veracity of your claims, instead you repeatedly attack my character and threaten me with legal actions.

How do you deal with the contradictions between your stated objectives and your actually behaviour?

sara lou :hippy:

"Are you relying on wikipedia for your information? "

Please take the trouble to actually READ my words. They were "Even Wikipedia is right on that one". Does that sounds like I rely on Wikipedia? Pathetic.


"Defamation across a website. A forum. Again I guarantee you that any prosecution would scoff at this"

Is that what you believe? I suggest that you research a little more carefully. The medium used for a worldwide libel is not material to the libel fact itself, other than in setting the level of damages.


"I explained how I arrived at 10 years."

Yes, and I explained how that is ridiculous. The first appeal was reversed by the second. Or did you stop paying attention at that point? The remission was lost last year. Or did you miss that too? Or are you just trying to mislead everyone with more lies?

She continues to twist and turn to campaign to hurt Schapelle Corby further. And more smears, innuendo, this time against me: "Are you still pretending to be some dude who found this stuff on the internet and was appalled?".

Another malicious suggestion. I am sure that the owner of this forum can check out my IP address perfectly easily. I am normal. I encountered this story and was appalled as a normal person would be, appalled enough to research it. What I found was obscene: the injustice, the barbaric sentence, the gutless smearing media, and those who get a kick out of posting their glee on forums like this.

A sad reflection on humanity.

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"I explained how I arrived at 10 years."

Yes, and I explained how that is ridiculous.

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No you didn't. You said -

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Originally Posted by SteveV

Latest lie: "This, combined with the 5 year reduction Ms Corby won at appeal, brought me to my earlier estimate of 10 years."

The 20 year sentence was re-imposed at a later appeal. FACT. Even Wikipedia is right on that one. Check ANY site that describes this case in fact. You clearly know next to nothing about it.

She also lost her remission rights on the pretext of a cellphone in her cell. The real reason is almost certainly her book.

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How does that actually refute my initial assessment of the situation?

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Schapelle's only risk of dying in Bali will be dying from self pity. She has a lot to be sorry for though, she would have done 10 years after her sentence was lightened to 15 (with remission bonuses for xmas, birthdays and good behaviour) but stupidity has already blown it back out to 20 years. If people want to give money to couriers who get snatched, there are other Australian's actually facing the death penalty in Indonesia.

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You clipped 6 words out of a longer sentence, dropped my conclusion and then said I was lying because wikipedia said effectively the same things as my conclusion. Now you suggest I am the one who is dodging things.

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She continues to twist and turn to campaign to hurt Schapelle Corby further.

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Can you explain where I have twisted or turned?

I don't mind if you want to use wikipedia to reference public record, or even other cannabis activism/politics forums/blogs etc to gauge audience response, so long as you identify them and they provide evidence of checkable sources.

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And more smears, innuendo, this time against me: "Are you still pretending to be some dude who found this stuff on the internet and was appalled?".

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No, it's just a question. You could have answered it with a yes or a no. I am not responsible for what you decide my words mean.

But back my question about the veracity of the website link in your first post.

How do you know that the donation link leads to a legitimate site?

How do you know this particular paypal account hasn't been set up to profit from people's sympathy?

What steps did you take to verify for yourself that it wasn't a scam?

Where is the information about the auditing of accounts available?

There are so many lies coming out of you that it is impossible to know where to start. It is compulsive lying.


Her current release date is in 2024. There were appeals. The 20 years was finally confirmed in March 2008 (which is why she has been medically treated almost continuously since). This is documented all over the net.

Yet you try to pretend it isn't. Why?


You smear her family with allegations of theft. You libel them on here. Have they been charged with any such offence? Are there allegations in the public arena, anywhere, apart from your mouth? No. If you call someone a thief YOU have to prove it, or you are libelous.

Why are you continually smearing them with lies and libel?


You deny a campaign against her, yet you return again and again and again to spew out more smears and lies.

Why? Why are you campaigning against someone who is suffering? What is exactly the matter with you? What is the real motive for this?

This thread has become absolutely ridiculous now. You're both bickering over something irrelevant to the topic at hand.

I guess children will be children. Play nice. :thumbsup:

thankyou daihashi for the reminder, I wont address any more of the straw men and will stay closer to the point.

steve you still haven't answered my questions -

How do you know that the donation link leads to a legitimate site?

How do you know this particular paypal account hasn't been set up to profit from people's sympathy?

What steps did you take to verify for yourself that it wasn't a scam?

Where is the information about the auditing of accounts available?

as to why I am still asking...

you still haven't answered my questions, isn't that enough?

Because I asked the person on the other end of the account, I checked it up, I determined the auditors, etc.

NOT that this has anything to do with you. YOU made the libelous statement. It is YOU who must prove the lie (or call the police as you allege a serious crime is being committed). I don't have to prove anything, especially to someone like you.

But your campaign still continues.

Why are you continually smearing them with lies and libel?

Why do you return again and again and again to spew out more smears and lies.

Why? Why are you campaigning against someone who is suffering so much? What is exactly the matter with you? What is the real motive for this?

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Because I asked the person on the other end of the account, I checked it up, I determined the auditors, etc.

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It would be really nice if you could share, you see WHOIS only allows me 20 full searches per hour and the registration trail is as long as your arm and pretty twisted... what's a community support forum doing registered to the ABN of a chain of holiday flats?

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NOT that this has anything to do with you.

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I'm not interested in donating money myself but maybe other members at can.com might... but are afraid of being scammed because of what I have said? Any tips on how they tell if the donation site is legit?

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YOU made the libelous statement. It is YOU who must prove the lie (or call the police as you allege a serious crime is being committed). I don't have to prove anything, especially to someone like you.

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Now this is the bit that keeps reinforcing my belief that it's both spam and scam.

Your continual focus on attacking me, your attempts to threaten me and your inferences about my motivations, plus your lack of understanding of Australian law as it pertains to individuals and corporations re defamation.

Note I don't say 'libel' that is because 'libel', like 'lawyer', are only common use terms, there is no such thing as 'committing libel' in Australian law. It was something notable about the slanging matches that went on at the end of 2004 and into 2005, drones talking legal threats that were based in US tv language against anyone that dared to suggest their motives weren't pure.

Further to your demand that I must now call the police, lol actually seeing as some of these sites are .com.au it's the Trade Practices Act that they have to worry about first.

Why bother? I gave you the floor, you could have used the opportunity to talk about Schapelle?

Aren't you looking forward to tomorrow? It's Independence Day in Indonesia and to celebrate that fact all prisoners incarcerated will be given 'presents of time' that will be deducted from their sentences. It is a quaint custom which demonstrates one of the ways time, as a concept, is very different in Indonesia.

Strangely enough for a 'muslim' country, the custom is repeated for the major religious festival of all prisoners. Schapelle, as a nominal Christian, will also get a present at Christmas, but true to the Santa tradition it will depend on whether or not she has been a good girl during the year. The Muslim prisoners will get theirs at Ramadan, I'm not sure what festival is used for Animists and Hindus.

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Why? Why are you campaigning against someone who is suffering so much?

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I'm not campaigning against Schapelle, just the people (family or not) who have spent the last 4/5 years feeding off her imprisonment and spreading lies about the Balinese people.


Dear Can.com,

sorry for the irritation, wont post again until I have something concrete to say about the site in question.

sara lou :hippy:

Ok..........
I cant take reading this shit anymore. Steve, leave it alone. She knew what the penalties where taking shit to Thailand. She did it anyway. Its not up to you to tell that country their laws are ridiculous. You weren't there either. So just like ANY other court case on the fucking planet, you don't know the whole truth either.
LET IT GO!!!
You are obviously not talking any of us into donating to your cause, which I call it because I dont see any other people devoting their lives to lobbying for this greedy woman.
I spent 4 YEARS in military prison for UNDER an ounce. Wanna call congress for me? I am still trying to get compensated for that...why don't you lobby for me? Isn't 4 years for a lil pot erroneous?...My point being, my crime was committed while I was in the US Army. Because of that, I fell under the UCMJ, not the constitution, so I KNEW the laws were much more stringent for military than cilvilian. BUT.....I did it anyway.
You have come new on to this site, and shit on alot of people. Quit flaming our site about a pitiful girl who made bad choices and has to live with em...If I didn't know any better, the way you are acting about this shit tells me you dont give a shit whether she gets out or dies...just whether we send money....you work for this "save Corby" foundation? How much of what people send do you get to keep?
whiskeytango


no one on here is committing libel, further proving your ignorance, just stop talking already...please...maybe you should just go to ICmag or some other site with this shit because it obviously back fired on you here....

Now this is just funny. It's like a bad episode of L.A. Law or Boston Legal...Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue!

And they say Americans are litigious. I guess not.:clap:


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldvhUgnuKYc[/YOUTUBE]

i wish there would of been more pics.. i started from the OP and lost it after the first page.. seemed to only be 3 or 4 people who were conversing..

*FBR newspaper thing was funny..

the green didnt work

Schapelle Corby is not in Thailand.

Bali is an island within the nation state of Indonesia.

I'll summarize for you Illnillinous. I posted about this terrible case and was immediately accused of being a spammer, in the most flippant and unpleasant of ways.

Smears and libel followed, as 'sarah louise' posted again and again to campaign against Schapelle Corby, who is suffering in prison for a barbaric 20 years. Some of the abuse is sickening to read.

Not a hint of sympathy at all. Not a hint of compassion. Nothing. Just smears and innuendo against her family, who are also suffering. Others chip in with smart arsed comments: again, no compassion, no sympathy, almost relish.

Of course, nothing on the show trial is ever mentioned: the refusal to test the drugs, the burning of the evidence and so on.

You wonder why I ask about motive? Because I have never ever encountered such a nasty campaign. Such clearly vindictive posts. Such twisting of the facts, and downright lies in an effort to harm someone suffering. What do YOU imagine the motive is?

It truly is horrible to read.

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I'll summarize for you Illnillinous. I posted about this terrible case and was immediately accused of being a spammer, in the most flippant and unpleasant of ways.

Smears and libel followed, as 'sarah louise' posted again and again to campaign against Schapelle Corby, who is suffering in prison for a barbaric 20 years. Some of the abuse is sickening to read.

Not a hint of sympathy at all. Not a hint of compassion. Nothing. Just smears and innuendo against her family, who are also suffering. Others chip in with smart arsed comments: again, no compassion, no sympathy, almost relish.

Of course, nothing on the show trial is ever mentioned: the refusal to test the drugs, the burning of the evidence and so on.

You wonder why I ask about motive? Because I have never ever encountered such a nasty campaign. Such clearly vindictive posts. Such twisting of the facts, and downright lies in an effort to harm someone suffering. What do YOU imagine the motive is?

It truly is horrible to read.

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Stop acting like you're a victim. Just about no one here supports her. She broke international Law; something that just about NOBODY in this community supports as it's counter productive for our cause.

Why don't you go lay your sympathies with smugglers who bring cannabis across the border from mexico or some other country.

A drug smuggler is a drug smuggler is a drug smuggler.

That's all she is in the end. She receives ZERO sympathy.

The lack of sympathy here is obvious. That's fine: you have to address with your own consiences about that.

However, there is a difference between not supporting her, and campaigning zealously against her. It is the latter that I find so utterly disgusting and appalling.

Equally however, making statements like "She broke international Law" - that is opinion not fact. I, and many many others, believe her to be innocent.

She did not get a proper trial. They burned the evidence. They refused to test it. The sentence - FFS. I could go on and on.

You can turn a blind eye to all that. That's up to you. I, however, will continue to support her. I will also continue to ask questions about the real motives of those who aren't just passive in their anti-Schapelle opinion, but are actively seeking to cause further hurt and pain, to her and her family.

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The lack of sympathy here is obvious. That's fine: you have to address with your own consiences about that.

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While there may be some people here who don't have any sympathy for her, I do have some and there may be others but I don't think anyone here has as much sympathy as you do. They aren't bad people if they don't and I'm sure every one here will sleep well with no guilty conscious.

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Equally however, making statements like "She broke international Law" - that is opinion not fact. I, and many many others, believe her to be innocent.

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Ok, she was found guilty of drug trafficing. That's a fact.

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She did not get a proper trial. They burned the evidence.

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Thank God someone burned the pot. :S2::rasta:

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I will also continue to ask questions about the real motives of those who aren't just passive in their anti-Schapelle opinion, but are actively seeking to cause further hurt and pain, to her and her family.

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You have got to be kidding right? I know you can't be serious that this discussion is causing her family and her more pain? Does she get internet in jail? Is her family aware of this site? Even so, I'm sure they have heard all this before. The trama this must be causing....It's enough to have to light up a joint!

Lucky Schapelle Corby and lucky Renae Lawrence, they got 3 and 4 months (respectively) off their 20 year sentences for drug smuggling to celebrate Indonesian Independence Day.



Others weren't so lucky... Scott Rush, Myuran Sukumaran and Andrew Chan didn't get a present because they have been sentenced to die and nobody gets presents on death row. :(

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However, there is a difference between not supporting her, and campaigning zealously against her. It is the latter that I find so utterly disgusting and appalling.

Equally however, making statements like "She broke international Law" - that is opinion not fact. I, and many many others, believe her to be innocent.

I will also continue to ask questions about the real motives of those who aren't just passive in their anti-Schapelle opinion, but are actively seeking to cause further hurt and pain, to her and her family.

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Really?! "We are campaigning zealously:S4:" against her by responding to YOUR campaign for her? News flash, YOU dont know that she isn't a smuggler any more than we do know...and again, you have yet to answer the question poised to you about what gave you the right to say that THAT countries laws are unjust? Then why did she do it? Or be in the position to be accused of it?
You are just as guilty of a "zealot" as you are accusing people....
Leave it alone...
Your cause is dead here...
take diashi's advice, and go get some smugglers sympathy, your not getting ours....
WT

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Ok, she was found guilty of drug trafficing. That's a fact.

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Nearly there. She was found guilty of a drug trafficing offence via a disgraceful show trial, rather than a fair trial. She never had a chance.

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I know you can't be serious that this discussion is causing her family and her more pain.

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What is causing them pain are those who collectively smear and libel them, time and time again. Those who conduct the most vicious nasty campaign against them.

Mrs Corby's daughter is suffering horribly: and we have people attacking her, abusing her, and making up downright lies.

That is sickening and vile.

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That is sickening and vile.

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Shit man you dont get it....LEAVE if you dont like it. But next time YOU post something on a forum, YOU should get ready for some responses that are both for and against your "zealot" cause....
WT

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She never had a chance.

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Where on earth could anyone turn up at customs with this in their luggage and not go to jail for 20 years?

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Where on earth could anyone turn up at customs with this in their luggage and not go to jail for 20 years?

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The venimous vile campaign continues.... just won't let it go. It's extremely ugly.

Back to the motive again... what makes someone do this? What makes them go after someone suffering so much already?


BTW: 20 years for a few pounds of dope? Only dodgy regimes do that. Especially on the back of a show trial, with a so-called judge who had never acquitted a defendent in over 500 drug cases. And I could go on and on, but some people's hatred of Schapelle makes them blind to facts like these.

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Back to the motive again... what makes someone do this?

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Does a credible website have an about page like this?

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Does a credible website have an about page like this?

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Credible? Some non-internet guy has probably worked hard to create that website. And you try to use his efforts to 'prove' a vile libelous allegation? Pathetic.

It is frankly disgusting and foul. Grabbing anything in sight, twisting it, lying, making stuff up - anything at all just to campaign against someone suffering in jail. I hope genuine people on here are reading all these many scurrilous posts closely, and learning about your nature. You must have a pretty sad life if this is how you get your kicks.

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Credible? Some non-internet guy has probably worked hard to create that website. And you try to use his efforts to 'prove' a vile libelous allegation? Pathetic.

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Steve that is the about page for freeschapelle (.com.au) that's the site with the paypal links that you reckon is genuine. It's not run by a noob, the site is registered to QLD business man, Neville Wright (long time beater of the Corby drum, but of course in no way associated with 'the family').

I thought you said you got in contact with the person at the other end?

Don't tell me you read this on the front page and were convinced?

I took the trouble to make contact and to verify certain things. I have no intention of providing ANY information to you at all though, whose foul objective is all so clear. If you think there is anything dodgy: do call the police. Do it. Go on. Call them. You are in Aussie: call them and tell them.

Smears, libel, lies in post after post after post. Where does it stop? What drives it? Why?

I think you need some sort of medical help. You cannot see that this is some sort of vendetta? That you have a problem? Your pure hatred obviously drives you to this, but seriously: get help. Your mates here go in to autopilot and slag me off, but you really do need to look closely at your behaviour and its root cause.

In 2005 the allegations that monies raised in the name of Schapelle Corby were being misappropriated to such an extent as to shut down the family's support site dontshootschapelle dot com.

This is the text of the notice that still stands on the 'donate' page of that site.

Thank you

Schapelle's family have decided to suspend all fundraising activity pending an imminent announcement from their new legal advisers.

Thank you for all those who have already donated. Approximately $12,000 (subject to foreign exchange fees on payments from foreign currencies) has been raised. A full report is here, so that you can verify your donation has been recorded.

Please remember - do NOT make payments into any bank account advertised through the internet. You can not be sure that such payments will reach Schapelle and her family.

If you have received money from other people for the benefit of Schapelle Corby, we would encourage you to either return it or contact Schapelle's family using the contact form

Queries about your donation?

If you have a query about a donation you have made, please use our contact form - select the option "Query about donations". You can also ring the phone number on that page.
Are we a registered charity?

This web site has been collecting donations for the benefit of Schapelle Corby. All monies received have been held in an appropriate trust account while we await specific details of the legal entity receiving the donations.

Once Schapelle's lawyers have established an appropriate and registered legal entity, details will be published on this site.

Refund policy

Card holders who have made payments and donations through the internet do have certain legal rights. If you have made a donation and feel you would now like a refund, you are encouraged to contact us using our contact form.

Yes indeed. People have been trying to rip the Corbys off for years. Sites emerged to 'raise funds' which never got anywhere near to Schapelle or her family.

They found that one and issued statements to try to stop it.

They set up the one at freeschapelle.com.au as an official audited one.

And guess what: 'sarah louise' even trys to use that to beat them with. Nice eh? Disgusting.

This is a poor family. They had no experience of law, no fancy lawyers, nothing. They had to learn as they went along. They have been ripped off, conned, smeared, the lot. They are only trying to help their daughter.

I pray that they never have to read some of the filth written about them in this thread: the libel, the accusations, the lies.

Whatever they do, someone distorts it and hits them with it. This is a great example.

Some people have no schame: no consience.

I hope people will read all "sarah louise's" posts on this thread. How she starts off calling me a spammer as soon as I post. Then the libel about the family. Then one thing after another. Dozens of posts: the smears, the lies, the twisting and turning.

I have never encountered anything like this in my life. I have seen some pretty horrible vendettas over the years, but never against some poor woman locked in a cell for 20 years on the basis of a trial that has more holes in it that Blackburn, Lancashire.

Before you automatically attack me: think about it. Ask yourself why? I am some guy in England who feels sick about what I have learned has happened to Schapelle Corby. I will try to help her. You may not agree with me, but there we are. But ask yourself what motive drives "sarah louise" and her vendetta? I find it horrible.

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Really? You've never encountered someone who just doesn't back down because you threaten them? Well if you're planning a crusade as a Corby fanboy, I'm sure you'll meet someone like me everywhere you go that you post those bullshit links :jointsmile:

Sad. Very sad.

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I'll summarize for you Illnillinous. I posted about this terrible case and was immediately accused of being a spammer, in the most flippant and unpleasant of ways.

Smears and libel followed, as 'sarah louise' posted again and again to campaign against Schapelle Corby, who is suffering in prison for a barbaric 20 years. Some of the abuse is sickening to read.

Not a hint of sympathy at all. Not a hint of compassion. Nothing. Just smears and innuendo against her family, who are also suffering. Others chip in with smart arsed comments: again, no compassion, no sympathy, almost relish.

Of course, nothing on the show trial is ever mentioned: the refusal to test the drugs, the burning of the evidence and so on.

You wonder why I ask about motive? Because I have never ever encountered such a nasty campaign. Such clearly vindictive posts. Such twisting of the facts, and downright lies in an effort to harm someone suffering. What do YOU imagine the motive is?

It truly is horrible to read.

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As i stated in the other thread about this person, its a sad thing anyone of any gender, religion, color, etc is doing time in any country for Marijuana..
But after seeing the pics, i doesn't appear like it was placed by the local LEO's
.They wouldn't have used a vacuum resealable bag, it would of been wrapped up like a brick of the devil dandruff.. And 9lbs extra in a body board would be a noticeable change in weight..
Its a horrible thing to see a 16-29 year old :rastasmoke: in prison for 16-50 years for having a :baggy:., where a :stoned: is out in 3-5 days.. but race, gender, shouldn't play a part.. It happens and will continue to happen til the world wakes up.. but dont go to a spot like her destin.. and expect any mercy

It is sad, very sad that SteveV lacks the ability or maturity to debate a topic without attacking those who he is debating and accusing them of lying or slander or not having feeling or whatever.

I've had it with your little insults at everyone who disagrees with you or calling them liars with no merit. You have almost 30 posts in this thread and they are really of no substance whatsoever. It's like arguing with a 5 year. I'm sure if I let this go on you will resort to making fun of people's mothers. But I'm not goin to let it. This is your last warning to stop attacking people constantly on here SteveV. Granted this thread has been very heated but no one is nearly as condescending or confrontational as you or trying to start a fight by baiting people with insults like you are. Quit accusing people of defamtion. If you can't do this and debate a subject like an adult then I am going to ban you from the site. Your first post did look like it could have been spam so get over that too. Last warning Steve play nice or go home. BTW we have a saying in America, it goes you win more friends with honey than vinegar. Do you understand?

I'm curious, are you related to her because you seem to be taking this personally.

I looked at some more stuff about Corby. It looks like half of her family has a history of drug dealing. Her former lawyer has said some pretty damning things about her now. She has witnesses that support her story as well as witnesses who say she is a drug dealer. These are just a few of the things I found which there was so much reading I just stopped because you'll see why at the end. She wrote a book and the Australian government froze the proceeds because as a criminal you can't profit from your crimes. It looks like she has no legal options left besides a pardon or clemency from the ruler of Bali. Why make contributions when money for legal aid is going to do her no good now?

You have succeeded in changing my opinion of Corby Steve; however probably not the way you hoped for. After reading all this bitterness from you Steve, it makes me care less now what happenes to her and I'll be telling people that I don't think too highly of some of her supporters.

I read this whole thing from the cover. If you (Steve) had just found the video, what got you so hot? You could of persued this as an adult but you instantly started throwing insults and threats. I do wonder what your real agenda is and how much you stand to profit from this. Anybody who just came across a video would not be so aggressive that they would threaten legal action against somebody for their opinion. That is where you give away the secret that all your dogs aren't barking. That means you are dim at best. That was for clarification, do not call your lawyer, or I will call Superman! Maybe you should spend your time writing letters to Bali, CNN, BBC, or any other media outlet. Trying to rob money from people on the internet is a crime too you know. So in closing I will say that not knowing a thing about this case, I do now, and you Sir are directly to blame for me never giving this case another thought. Surely not a dime. Maybe you should look in the mirror and figure out who you really are.
Peace

steveV, steveZ, maxx99 none of them are getting much support from the online ganja communities... but can.com seems to be the only one where he has gone into meltdown.

maybe he couldn't handle one more rebuff :(