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Its a quote from Family Guy by bill clinton. I guess if you hadnt seen it then it would make 0 sense, but it kinda flows with your above statement. Im a wee bit drunk too so.... It may make even less sense to me in the morning. We shall see :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SAP420
As you can see they are bushing out real nice. I don't know what is up with the little one. It IS growing but seems like its retarded or somehow may be of a different strain or something. Oh well.... Next week is bloom transition week so maybe we'll see some pistils soon :D
Love the little dental pick seedling crutches.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAP420
Gonna watch this grow.
My first hydrotron exerience was not good.
Washed it, then soaked it in PH 5.5 for 8 hours.
Then screwed-up. Rinsed it with tap water!
My tap water runs about PH 7.2.
Then got real stupid and watered with tap water.
(Had the hose in my, basically lazy, hand.)
Almost killed a fine lady.
Sure ugly'd her up. Lost 80% of her fan leafs from nute lock.
How did you pre-condition the Hydrotron?
Or, is that not necessary with those grow stations?
Looks great so-far.
Best
Weezard
funny thing is that I didn't precondition at all. I just flushed the hydroton lots with tap water. Then I let it dry out completely and then planted my seedlings in each station. Its funny that you mention that you used tap water to flush your plants. I do that every time with tap water. What I do is I will flush the hydroton of each water farm with a sprayer in my bath tub, then I mix fresh nutes for each station (2 gallons). Then I add ph down to each one. Here with our tap water, I usually use 2 and 1/2 dropper fulls for each station of ph down. Then I check the ph about an hour later to see the true reading. Usually I end up right around 6 which is perfect to me. Been doing it this way for the past 3 grows. Never had an issue. Thanx for your interest! :jointsmile:
Mahalo! That's what I wanted to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAP420
The almost victim is a rescue and sits in a pot of hydrotron in the yard.
I use rainwater with a little PH down and 2 tsp per gallon of bloom nutes, usually.
Only took one "senior moment", to water right from the hose.
Argh!
She did recover but she's stunted and frowning.:)
Thanks for your time.
I get enough pieces, I'll finish dis puzzle.:D
Regards,
Weezard
O.K. They are doing quite well with no signs of any sadness or stress. All of them are super green. I did get a controller although I have not attached it yet. I have some questions in another thread about that. But so far so good!
It's probably about time to put in a trellis. Tell me how tall they were when you switched to flower and how tall they are now.
Still in veg right now. Gonna switch to bloom transition tomorrow.
OK, what is the height right now then?
The tallest one is like 25 inches
Shit dude, you went way too high! You need to cut that down to 16" immediately! Looking at that Indica influence you are gonna get about 40" off of 16" when you go into flower.
Then set your trellis height at about 30" or so (from the top of the bucket, not the floor).
yeah didn't realize they were gonna get that big so fast. Hadn't been in veg for any more than a week and a half. Now I asked earlier if I'm using the controller the regular way, I fill up all the buckets through the controller right? Not each bucket when I start with new nutes? I was always topping them off with ph'd water but now I'm reading that ppl have nutes mixed in the controller. And if that is the case then do they have nutes mixed at the same dose as what is already in the farms? Just curious. I will be setting up the controller tomorrow for the bloom phase. Save me alot of work with topping off.
never used a trellis by the way.. what for?
The trellis will hold your plants up. MUCH easier than stakes, yo-yos, tomato cages, etc... So cut the plants down to the height I mentioned, hang the trellis at the above height and you'll be golden.
There are special clips or something for hanging a trellis in one of those huts. Its awesome!
I honestly have never had the issue of my plants not standing up. I may try this method down the road tho. thanx.
What is your wattage again? was it 400? OK, maybe not necessary.
what do all of you think the yeild will be with the waterfarm using dwc with a 400 i ask cause i wanna switch to a rec.dwc and only use 400 hps :S5:
I am using a 400 watt hps lamp and granted the light was never trapped and concentrated in a small area like I have been able to do with my hut for this grow. But I was averaging about 1.5 to 2 oz. a plant.Quote:
Originally Posted by caligrown82807
2.oz a plant sounds great keep up the good work bro....
Ok.. so I had put the plants to 12/12 with bloom transition feed last Thursday and already have pistils starting to show on the front left plant. I see no pistils on the others yet. I'm thinkin of cloning her right now to get guaranteed girls next grow and just keep them in my bubbler till I can transfer to my farms after this harvest. I expect I will have to keep them alive for up to 3 to 4 weeks from now in order to transplant them. Tell me what you think I should do and enjoy the latest pics! I also have my controller and reservoir sitting outside the tent.. the nutes stay waaaay cooler this way as well... and you can see that I have moved the reservoir off the top of the controller so I can monitor ph levels in my controller without the hassle of moving the res.(Thanks to "Herbie the love bud" for the helpful hint)!
Hey sap,
Did you switch to the recirculating system. I saw that you got the controller and res going and was curious to know if you modified it to a recirc. to get the most out of that system.
If you can't keep the clones in the bubbler for long enough to flower the farms out, you could make a mini ebb n flow system really cheap with 2 or 3 inch net pots and transplant them into the farms when the other ladies are done doing their thing. just a suggestion
later, D:S5:
No, I haven't started the recirculating setup yet but I just wanted to get the controller for now and will follow up on that at a later time. I have stretched myself out financially for now. I know its only 30 bucks but I need to wait. All ph levels are stable in the controller, reservoir, and the farms.
By the way, I did go ahead and cut some cuttings off the plant to get some clones going in my bubbler so no worries now overall. :D
Everything is looking great bud. Im glad that super healthy one turned out Fem. Should serve you a long time if the clones work out good.
I finally got my rapid rooters and have my bubbler going and everything seems to be fine. One thing though, have you ever had roots break off in the bubbler? The plant looks plenty healthy but when I checked the ph a while ago, there were 3 hair sized roots floating around in the water. They were still white, one had just a tinge of brownish, but didnt look bad. My wife checked the ph last night since I was gone so maybe she did it and just didnt know. Im just curious if its normal.
Um.. dunno man.. never really paid much attention to that. As long your babies are nice and green and stay perky I wouldn't worry about it. I ended up ripping out 2 plants... the little one and the super huge one which was a male.. the little one was not thriving enough for me. I also took out the controller reservoir system. It was such a pain in the ass to drain and change. I work much better without it. I am selling my controller with the reservoir and all the tubing and parts for 60 dollars plus whatever shipping is. So anyone interested let me know and we can do paypal or something. I am thinkin about listing it on ebay for buy it now.
Here are 2 pics... one of the girl up front and possible male in back, and my clones in the bubbler. I cut them small so I would have time to get my girl bloomed out and harvested and be ready to transplant them to the water farms. Like I said.... I am not going to use a controller again because of the trouble with having to drain each bucket and nowhere to drain them to.
I think there must be some mis-understanding on the usage of the controller. Could you explain how you were draining, it sounds like you were doing it wrong.
Another thing, you mentioned that you took cuttings to clone. Where did you take them from on the plant? The top? Middle? Bottom?
i took the cuttings from the middle of her. When I drain... I drained from the controller but did not get any flow from the water farms. I had to take a cup and dip out the nutes from each water farm. Could not do it any other way. Keep in mind that this is not a recirculating system.
The bottom tier are the newest growth hormones and the easiest to root, the top the oldest and hardest, so keep that in mind.
Even without a recirculating system when you drain the controller, all of the farms need to drain into it. There's gotta be something wrong. I really encourage you to keep trying it will be worth it down the road.
In order for me to drain the farms into the controller, I would have to have them sitting higher than the controller to encourage the flow back to it. It just takes much longer to do that way and I can usually have all my plants drained, flushed, and new nutes mixed in half the time it took me to do that. Plus when it comes time to weed out the males, I have to disconnect all the tubing and reconnect so that I don't have any spillage from the barbs that were in the other waterfarms. I dunno man.. just seems way easier this way for me. If you know anyone who wants a controller let me know. Still have everything it came with, although I did have to cut the tubing for the farms. But I am asking 60 for the setup plus whatever to ship. Thanx for the info tho. My clones are doing great so far. They are nice green and very happy. I replaced my fluoro bulb 24" with a new one and has made a difference for sure. I'm just waiting on this girl to do her thing and I will plant the clones soon after.
do your cuttings in the bubbler go strait into the net pots w/ hydroton or do you use a plug as well ?...
What nutes do you run in your bubbler water ?...
I've cloned in the past, in RW and oasis cubes in the propagation tray w/ humidome but I just built a bubble cloner a lil different than yours but the same baisc idea, just not using the net pots. I've got the neoprene collars. I haven't put it into service yet. lookin for some new mommies
later D:S5:
I take a cutting and dip the end of it in clone gel and then put it straight into a nice moist rooter plug. Then I take the rooter plug and set it in a 3" basket with hydroton. After that I place the basket in the bubbler and I use early veg feed in the solution underneath to encourage root development and new foliar growth. Of course the new leaves won't show for a while till the roots have started developing. In your case... I think that you would just dip them in clone solution and then put them in your collars with the solution below splashing on the cuttlings.Quote:
Originally Posted by d4twamp
Well now I went to using straight water for the cuttings because I checked them today and they were getting nute burn (curling brown edges). So I flush the plugs and hydroton and am using straight water hoping to save them from their demise. :(
there are rooting stimulants that can be added to straight water but you shouldn't add nutes to cuttings. Too early.
you think that they will bounce back since I caught it just as the edges were starting to brown?Quote:
Originally Posted by herbie the love bud
Ok, I thought maybe be better to show pics of what I'm talking about. I fucked up and nute burned the babies but hopefully with time they will heal. I have them under a 750 lumens fluorescent lamp. But the momma is growing nice and her pistils are just now starting to really show themselves. More pics to come as I go on with this bloom. Thanks for all advice!
I see two things: First your question about bouncing back; remember that plants show signs later than where they are. So for most problems its later than you think to correct. Catching things early is key, but not to make too big a change all the time is the trick. Your plants look like they will bounce back.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAP420
BUT, I also see they are _severely_ over watered. And you are definately going to retard the cuttings if not kill them. Take an empty rapid rooter and dip it in water, then squeeze out that water. That is how the rooters should be all the time. If you touch a rooter and your finger gets wet, that is too wet.
I can't remember what thread but it was one on bubble cloners and he used only thrive-alive and superthrive in the cloner I think it was 2ml thrive alive and 1 drop superthrive per gal. of water. but I'm not completely sure...
D:S5:
Thanks for the info Herbie! I took the clones and moved them to a starter tray in new rapid rooters. They hadn't kicked out a single root :(. I went ahead and put new root stimulator on the stems again and placed them down in a rooter each. I also put the dome cover over to help... do you think that I should do that or not? I thought high humidity would help, if not then I will take it off.
4 tsp per gallon of thrive alive (20 ml) and no need for superthrive. That's all you need.Quote:
Originally Posted by d4twamp