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I call BS. Unless you and your lawyer are referring only to Federal law, I would appreciate it if you were to link a reference for that position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanietheberner
By the way, I am a retired police officer from the State of California.
Lead, so far this is all I can find but I'll keep looking.......I STILL would love to know about the airguns.....are they or are they NOT firearms?
ASA : California Legal Tip of the Month
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Originally Posted by Weedhound
Airguns ARE NOT considered firearms. However, if you are on probation or parole thet can still be considered unlawful to possess and a violation as per the terms and conditions of your probation/parole.
Under federal law, possession of a FIREARM in conjunction with another crime will add a minimum of five years on to your sentence. When the feds start busting small grows, there will be a LOT of people going to prison for terribly long terms.
Fuck those bastards and their "war on drugs".
well first of all im not committing a crime i have a legal right to grow and posses a fire arm.
the problem arises when they charge you with maintaing and protecting a drug house. and it makes our cause look bad like were radicals or something
well to the point on an occasion when the cops came to my house and asked if i had any fire arms i said yes so they follwed me and secured it but it was in the same closet as some curing meds. he mentioned that he wasnt there for weed i said i got rec. he told me that from now on he reccomends that i keep the firearms not in the same room or area cause it looks like im protecting my dope keep them out of sight and mind and locked up. most cops are gun crazy so they might understand.
and also i heard somthing about its easier to prove a collective rather than a coop in cali cause of the required paperwork
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Originally Posted by phatsesh101
Free Americans acting within the scope of the law does not serve to "make our cause look bad". Pretending we are somehow second class citizens without the rights afforded to us by our Constitution because we consume cannabis does.
Could you please identify which California statute you are referring to when you say "maintaing and protecting a drug house"?
Lead
anyone of the attorneys on the NORML List, as the info that I've passed along regarding the firearm possession was the first thing that they all say "get rid of the firearms"....
I don't claim to be a lawyer, just want to never have to use one!
October 2006: Guns and Medical Marijuana
If at all possible, always avoid growing or storing medical marijuana in the same structure or in the vicinity of where firearms are kept. If charged with medical marijuana possession or sales, it can often be a challenge to defend oneself. However, if you add guns to the mix, the stakes are significantly increased.
Typically, if firearms are found at the scene of a criminal investigation, and if someone is charged and eventually convicted, their sentence can be dramatically increased. If someone is convicted under federal law of charges involving medical marijuana, and it can be shown that a gun was merely present during the "crime," the sentence will be a minimum of 5 years. If a gun is brandished during a federal "crime" related to medical marijuana, the sentence will be a minimum of 7 years, and if a gun is discharged, the sentence will be a minimum of 10 years.
ASA strongly advises that if you are a medical marijuana patient or provider, do not carry or keep firearms on your property or in your vehicle.
Just leave the firearms at your mom's house and you'll be much happier!
Anyone recall if the feds have involved themselves in grow ops of 99 plants or less in recent history?
I do recall at least one case where the feds charged someone for growing more than 100 plants over the course of a few years. That is scary and bullshit. That would mean after a few years many med. growers could be pinned with the 100+ plant penalties.Quote:
Originally Posted by leadmagnet
I also know of at least one case where the feds arrested someone for growing less than 100 plants, approx. 30 if i recall, because of the enormity of the plants. The rules can be bent BOTH ways, and often are.
they arrested a guy who had 26 total kids onsite (his ex-wife called the LE agency since her husband could not pay to support his kids - idiots both!). The Federal and local guys showed up and found 26 kids and 22 pounds of trimmings. They arrested him, seized his house, and the truck he had just bought with his house equity line.....
He will end up doing 3 years, paying @$50K to get his home back, and he will never see his brand new (less than 2K miles) truck again. He also is responsible for @$100K worth of legal help.
Now the question is wether the not paying his ex-wife the $290 per month in child support was a worthwhile transaction?
He'll end up spending @$180K, so how long will it take you to generate $180K at $290 per month....? 51.72 years!
What a moron, and I asked him what he was thinking....? He just sat there looking stupid, and had no answer.
Take care of your responsibilities, especially when it involves your children!:thumbsup:
There is no excuse for this kind of stupiditiy:wtf:
I'm confused. Do you mean 26 kids as in twentysix little nose pickers or as in 26 plants in veg?
;)I meant 26 indoor kids in the 2nd cycle. Opps!
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Originally Posted by leadmagnet
Thanks, weedhound. Glad someone got the joke.
I was hoping you weren't that dense, thanks for the laugh!:thumbsup:
not to be a downer, but unfortunatly... any possession is a federal crime. The feds have a right to arrest you for having a seed in your pocket.
Believe me fj, none of us were unaware of that. ;)
as last month the Federalies arrested a African National at the Reno train station with 20+ full sized pieces.
Now not to be stupid, but from what I understand this was a african gentleman, dressed in a tie-dye tea shirt with dreadlocks, who smelled like he'd just finished a Bob Marley cigar...... (probably not a good thing to wear, or smell like...).
He had 3 full sized suitcases, 2 of which weighed in at 14 pounds each, and the 3rd was 45 pounds, and was making a trip to the North East.
We'd heard stories earlier this year that the Federal guys were taking train trips along with Fido...
The shame it is that in Reno a seed is a full time felony, so I bet in 30+ years this gentleman will be able to return back to his homeland and see his family again....
What a shame!
This is the article:
Using a trained dog, officers found drug paraphernalia and 19.95 pounds of marijuana in the luggage of Yohannis Mengesha, 23. Police said he is an Ethiopian citizen in the United States illegally
You people must be wealthy.
I'm sure those lawyers are getting rich too.
Freedom=nothing left to lose.
I'll never be rich & you'll probably never buy smoke from me.
Not us, we don't have to use lawyers as we manage to follow da rules....
We don't buy smoke too, as we have a good bit of sunshine, nice brown stuff below our toes, and lots of happy four leged friend who help us in our endevor. If you ever need some, and we can figure out how to hook up, you'd be more than welcome to eat at our table and enjoy some of of our summers blessings.
As for the freedom..... I love my freedom, which include the pleasure to scratch my kid on the head, to go for long walks on the beach and throw her ball, and to not worry about someone coming by to harm us or our friends....
Being truly happy is the best freedom of all!