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I thought nute burn at the beginning, but since you watered with light nutes and it seems to help. You're going to have to update. =)
I'm growing under CFL's too. Just bagseed. But none-the-less. I'm interested, and subscribed. :D
Be Safe:jointsmile:
fair enough. here's the white widow after my nute solution. much improved, yes?
o0o, much indeed. :thumbsup:
Good call. =)
I got some plants logged too. >.>
http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-gr...me-stinky.html
Have a good one.:jointsmile:
k, time for another update. both plants have really been exploding in growth since i started with my nutes. the WW is more noticeable as it was sick, but the PS was yellowing around the leaf edges a little (Nitrogen deficiency, i believe) so i started mixing 1 part of my solution to 2 parts water and using that...and it's been doing fantastic since. so here's some pics. the left 2 are White Widow, the one on the right is the Power Skunk
Glad to see the kids on their feet again.:thumbsup:
Keep it up and Be Safe:jointsmile:
can u tell me how many watts u are pulling cause i need to change my set up to release some head hight
well, right now i'm just using 2 23watt cfls at 6500k, and one 17w at 5500k. i have two more 23w and one more 17w for when the plants get bigger and need more light, though. if you go back to my first page you can see a good shot of what my main light (the 6500k's) setup looks like without the reflector on it.
and as long as i'm posting. i'm thinking it's about time to transplant to a bigger pot and start tyin' the girls down for LST. opinions? as a reminder, they're in jiffy-pots, so i wont' be taking the actual plant out of the pot, just sticking the pot right in the soil of the new container.
(awww, i was at 69 posts before this, giggle, too bad i ruined it. that's right, i still find that funny at 22, hahaha.)
sorry, it was too late to edit. they're actually 20watt bulbs, it's my 2700k spectrum lights i picked up for blooming (not being used yet, obviously) that are the 23watt. my bad.
GeddilittleHi
Hi nice compact grow ! the reason they were starving , remember you said you filter out your tap water it must also took out lot of nutes, so remember next time if you filter tap water that much might add 1/4 or 1/8 strength nutes to it.
so back on track know !! and I find the $7.88 4 pks 2700k @ wallyworld attractive too!! goodluck on your project :cool:
hahaha, that's funny, that's exactly what i bought. same price and everything
so i did my first transplant today, the pots seem a little big for the plants, but they were def gettin big for the jiffy-pots, soooo...
i'll be doing one more transplant to a larger size before the grow is over, but the volume discrepancy won't be quite as obvious. i may not even post about it and see if anyone notices, hahaha. i haven't LST'd em yet because after the transplant there really wasn't enough stem above soil for it, so i guess i gotta wait a little longer for that. could still use some tips on LST too...
so yeah, here's pics. PS on the left in the red and WW on the right in green.
thought i'd show you this little thing i rigged up on my last grow and decided to use again. it's really just a cut pepsi bottle, but it's o so much more. there's baking soda sitting at the bottom, with vents cut all around the lower part (above the level of soda, of course) in the top you put some plastic wrap or aluminum foil and poke a TINY hole in it at the very point. you then dump some vinegar in the top and voila, you've got a slow-release source of CO2 for your plants... assuming you made the hole small enough. every couple minutes a little drop of vinegar will come through, like a leaky faucet, land on the baking soda and react to make carbon dioxide. neato, eh?
Very creative idea there gedda, how many of those co2 producers do you create per plant to get the right ppm?
ok this is so badass.
so I got a few Q's about this thing U built.
what size of bottel did U use.
and do U leave it in the grow room /box all the time or do U take it out some times.
can I use it in my big flowering box or it is ment for a whole grow room.
how much did it help ur plants.
thanks for the info. it is for sure neato.
o0o, they are lookin' comphy in the new pots. =)
I normally (as only my second grow) examine the plant to find where some already triggered side growth is, then lightly start pushing it over to get a good idea how it will work out. then depending on the container and personal opinion whether to make a large 'U' shaped coat hanger to probe into the dirt or use twine to 'tie' it down to the side of your mutilated container. =P I've used both in this grow so far. including some topping and even a successful FIM. :yippee:
Sorry to ramble. But that's just my little bit on LST. I'm sure others will shoot ya links and pictures and diagrams and helpful tips and blah blah. =)
Have a good one, and Be Safe:jointsmile:
well i just stick one CO2 bottle in there for my two plants, i don't have any kind of measurements on it, i just wanted a source to release CO2 into my box, no real need to be very exact. i leave it in there...whenever i feel like doing the work to get it ready and set it in the box, lol. And it's just a 20oz bottle. as for how much it helps the plants, i don't know on these two yet, just had it in there today for the first time, and those plants are kinda stunted due to nutrient starvation early on (still don't fully understand that one) but it helped out the solitary plant in my first grow a lot (at least i think, it was my first grow) it got real tall and bushy when i started pruning it. It's the same bottle, btw, i just found it sitting in my kitchen and was like "i didn't throw that out? sha-weet!" I have been thinking of an improvement on the design (it can get messy and frustrating trying to get the hole the right size) where you'd put some yarn, or something similar, in the hole with a not tied on top. This thing would soak up the vinegar and, again, just let little drops fall down onto the soda every once in a while...in theory anyway. If anyone wants to try it, feel free, and if you mention it's based on my design...w007! to you, sir. hahaha.
I still haven't decided if i'm really gonna go LST either. Mostly i'm just looking for a way to increase my yields, but i've got the room to grow both plants 4-5 feet tall, so i don't really need to compact them for any reason...i dunno
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Originally Posted by GeddaLiddleHI
4 to 5 feet...hmmm... I'd say 1 good LST at the 7'th or so node. And they should result in 8 or more good sized tops at all reasonable lengths. Try out Jerry Garcia's Blue Widow/Apollo grow log and see his incredible results with 1 swift pin to the dirt. =P
Be Good and keep us updated. :jointsmile:.
will do, sir, and thank you for your input
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Originally Posted by GeddaLiddleHI
I just like to help. Makes me feel as though I'm of use. =)
k, time for another update. the ladies have been doing much better now that they're not being starved of nutrients. I did notice a bigger growth spurt after i did my little CO2...thing...but that could just be optimism on my part. anyway, i'll keep refining the design on that and let you know. here's pics. White Widow left, Power Skunk right.
k, so i went ahead and did mine refinement to the CO2 bottle design, and it works a helluva a lot more consistently. you gotta use plastic wrap for this way though, i just used aluminum foil around the top to hold the plastic wrap in place. Anyways, what i did was cut a little strand of fabric and tie a knot in one end. i just threaded the fabric through the hole in the saran wrap and the rest is just the same. The fabric absorbs the vinegar and let's a little drop...drop down onto the baking soda. Mine releases a little faster than i'd like, but that can be easily remedied by just using thicker fabric. I'v got a pic down there so you can see the little knot of fabric on the inside. I've been thinking about the size thing too, if you wanted to use a bigger bottle (as i may do for reasons i'm about to explain) it wouldn't really increase the amount of CO2 released, since it's still mixing drop by drop, but it would release for a longer period of time.
So anyway, i just posted pics of what my plants look like, tomorrow, after they've had this CO2 treatment i'll post some more and you can judge for yourselves how much my little gadget helps.
edit: it also helps if you make the baking soda on the bottom into a little crater, that way as the level of vinegar in the bottom rises it mixes with the soda on the sides, getting you a more consistent reaction. ...i think, hahaha.
as pomised, pics of my plants progress after a day...ok, a few hours, with the CO2 treatment. i took the pics as close to the angle and distance of the comparison pics as i could, but i rotate the pots a lot so they may be facing a slightly different way, and one of the PS leaves seems to be pointing up for some reason... if you can't tell em apart by now; White Widow left, Power Skunk right
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I like your CO2 gizmo. Pretty cool. I'm thinking of giving that a try myself.
How often do you plan on fertilizing when they get bigger? I usually do it with a weak solution once a week. I switched to a higher phosphorous content now that they started to flower. I have 2 girls, but these aren't indoor plants- what I mean is, I have them in pots, but I put them out during sunny days and bring them in at night, so the light they get is limited to sunny days, unfortunately. My next try will be strictly indoor, since the fall season is nearly upon us here.
I'll also go with a cfl set-up and I enjoy reading threads like yours for ideas and just to see how well you progress.
Best of luck and keep us posted!
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I forgot to ask this. I see people writing LST, but I don't know what that stands for. I'm assuming it refers to either topping or tying down the plants? Can someone spell it out for me pls?Quote:
Originally Posted by wangman
Thank you.
LST is for Low Stress Strainning, tying the plant down so it stay shorter, this is good for people with limited space.
Thanks for the definition, bud.
i actually had to start fertilizing them when they were really small. i dunno if i just have mutant plants or there's somethign terribly deficient abotu my filtered tap water, but yeah, they needed nutes WAAAAAAY earlier than they're supposed to. I was usign a really weak solution for the first week or so of that (check out page 3 to really see what i'm talking about) but now i'm using som more concentrated stuff and am using it for every other watering to see how that goes. i'll try and remember to post some pics tomorrow and show you all how it's going
so i had to go into my box for something anyway, and decided to snap some pics to post while i was in there. WW left, PS right
In only 8 days your plants have made tremendous progress. Must be those nutes and the C02 bottle. Very impressive!
joe~:yippee:
Ahhh... glad to see they're looking much better!! Very nice.
k, time for another update on their growth. i haven't done the CO2 bottle thing in awhile (been workin third shift, kinda messes up my scheduling for...everything, hahaha) so the growth isn't quite as dramatic as it has been, but they're def still bigger. I'm kinda worried about the skunk, it seems a little too stretched, but i know it's not because the light's too far away. it actually got too tall too fast at one point and bumped into the light, which is where the burn marks on the closest leaf in that pic came from (d'oh!) soooo...i dunno, hopefully it doesn't topple over. As you can probly tell, i added my supplemental 5500k lights back in to the box as well. should help stimulate side growth and my temps still don't breach 80, since the weather's getting cooler and i got air circulating through the box much better now. It looks like the lights really close to the White Widow in that pic, but it's really not, that's just due to the angle of the picture, you can get a better idea of how it's oriented from looking at the Power Skunk's picture. anyways, here they are; WW left, PS right:
so, like the title says, i did the final transplant into the biggest size pots they're gonna get. i also started the late LST on the Power Skunk. Mostly because it's height was significantly higher than the White Widow and i had to move the lights farther up than i'd like. So i bent the top of the plant over and tied it down, and i accidentally topped it as well. I was trying to bend the top of the plant around the side of the pot (in a circular shape) and i snapped it, so i just cut it off and stuck it in some rooting solution, so hopefully i'll have another little PS in a short time. I haven't put the CO2 bottle in there since the last time i mentioned it on here, and i've definitely noticed that they don't grow as quickly, so i'm gonna start doing that again. anyways, here's pics, WW left, PS right
Great grow GeddaLiddleHI :thumbsup: ur plants look good , have u restarted with ur co2 bottle ? did u keep the bottle in there during flowering of ur last grow ? how bout with ur lights out ? just wondering am thinking bout using in my next grow :rasta:
yeah, i just started doing the CO2 bottle again yesterday. I odn' tremember if i was still using it during flowering (i hadn't quite perfected it yet and it wasn't as consistent as it is now) but plants need CO2 all the time so i don't see why not. Not with the lights off though, but only because i don't want to be going in there when it's supposed to be dark time.
Hey GeddaLiddleHI :thumbsup: how r ur ladies doin since thier transplant ? how long r u goin 2 veg them ? they look bout 9-10 inches right now , thinking bout flowering soon ?:smokin:
Been doin pretty good since the transplant. Especially since i got the bend in the skunk for my LST situated better and i've been doing the CO2 bottle daily. I plan to let them get a LOT bigger before i start to flower. I've got a pic of the entire inside of my box included with my regular plant updates today. I want them to be just a few inches shy of hitting the top before i flower them. So, as you can see, i've got a ways to go.
edit: while i'm posting, i was thinking of crossbreeding these two strains at some point (i was planning on making clones anyway so i'll have the extra tree to do it with) but my question is this: what would i call it? I haven't seen any strains that are White Widow + Power Skunk but i dunno, it may have a name already. I was thinking White Power, but i could see how that would be offensive (i just thought it was funny, personally) Maybe White Skunk or Power Widow, i think Albino Skunk popped into my head at one point. Any ideas?
hey GeddaLiddleHI becareful ur ladies will grow during flowering !! i've grown ww before & it grew almost 10 12 inches after i started flowering :thumbsup: i like white power LOL 4 ur name but like u said it's kind of offessive like albino skunk 2 but u should wait 2 see which strain will be dommient before choosing ur name 4 it . i've never seen a ww & ps cross before , u might be on 2 something there . stinky would know though , she's grown alot of strains acordding 2 this fourm , u might ask her if there is such a strain already. ur ladies look great :thumbsup: keep it up & u r goin 2 be happy in the end :jointsmile: keep us posted !! want2beagrower :stoned:
so this talk of flowering made me think of something else; has anyone ever tried changing the lighting gradually? I mean, instead of going from 24/0 straight to 12/12 doing it 24/0, then 20/4, then 18/6, etc until you get to 12/12 and just stay there. Would there be any advantages to bud development? Id' jsut go search if anyone else has tried this...but i couldn't think of how to label it so that i could search for it somewhere.
hey GeddaLiddleHI :thumbsup: never tried turning the lights down slowly but i don't see how it could hurt it . i've always used a 600watt mh for veggin at a 18-6 light cycle & a 600watt hps for flowering at a 12-12 light cycle . kind of spoiled :thumbsup: i'm using a
Lumatek Digital Ballast , which can use both mh & hps blubs . sorry for the double post , kind of stoned & hit the wrong button :thumbsup: never tried runnin my lights for 24-0 , always felt like they needed some dark time for recovery & growth but ur grow is goin great :thumbsup: keep up the good work :thumbsup: want2beagrower :stoned: