1st Post - 1st Outdoor Grow - Mighty Freeze

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Originally Posted by greenatik

Jake, you lucky guy. I have been eyeballin PPP for some time now. Just haven't been able to locate it locally. Its' fat yields are enticing and of course exactly what I need :baggy:.

and your plant is looking awesome man, we will be harvesting around the same time I suppose :D I am at 44 days flower, but yours seems to be maturing faster!

Can't wait to see how everything turns out for ya, and D9 made me want to go out and get a loupe for some trich shots. we will have to share soon :jointsmile:

peace friend and grow safe!

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greenatik, thanks for stopping by, my friend! It's darn good to see you in the MIQ log. I hope I will have some PPP soon, but boutique shipped my beans back on the 10th of June, and I still have not seen them. I'm really beginning to think they have been hijacked!

As for MIQ maturing fast, I don't know about that. She is an autoflowerer, but seems to have really slowed down on the flowering since I lst'ed her - her new veg development should prove for more bud though, so I am happy she has decided to take a bit longer to finish; luckily I don't need bud, so I can hold off for as long as it takes her.

Like you, D9 lit a fire under me to get a loupe and experiment with some pictures. I'd really like to see MIQ's trichs under magnification though, just to reassure myself they are developing nicely.

Have a great weekend, greenatik, and thanks again for stopping by!

(really high right now)

jake, I don't think the lst-ing would slow down flowering at all. i would keep it tied down to receive maximum light. yours seems to be frosting up quicker then mine did... but she is called MIQ. :D 10 days ago I couldn't see trichs noticeably in person without zoomed in on my camera's macro setting

oh and I found a strong magnifying glass. im going to see if i can get some shots later tonight when the light flips :D Cant wait because I was pruning some leaves last night and started to see purple hues on the lower buds. going to try and turn down the temps to 65 at night to bring out the lavender.

and I am sorry to hear about seed boutique rippin ya... thats really unforunate :( I have been hearing about a lot of that lately which is why I have never tried the online deal. but hey they still might come, did you contact them about it? one day Ill give it a go because the strain selection is awesome, PPP :food10:

anyways jake, i hope you have a good weekend too, and the weather looks nice where your at. :thumbsup:

Jakezking,

You are doing a wonderful job:), those are some very healthy looking babies and you are doing a wonderful job with the LST'ing.

I don't see anything I can add, just keep up the good work.

JG

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Originally Posted by greenatik

(really high right now)

jake, I don't think the lst-ing would slow down flowering at all. i would keep it tied down to receive maximum light. yours seems to be frosting up quicker then mine did... but she is called MIQ. :D 10 days ago I couldn't see trichs noticeably in person without zoomed in on my camera's macro setting

oh and I found a strong magnifying glass. im going to see if i can get some shots later tonight when the light flips :D Cant wait because I was pruning some leaves last night and started to see purple hues on the lower buds. going to try and turn down the temps to 65 at night to bring out the lavender.

and I am sorry to hear about seed boutique rippin ya... thats really unforunate :( I have been hearing about a lot of that lately which is why I have never tried the online deal. but hey they still might come, did you contact them about it? one day Ill give it a go because the strain selection is awesome, PPP :food10:

anyways jake, i hope you have a good weekend too, and the weather looks nice where your at. :thumbsup:

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greenatik, I appreciate the insight into the lst'ing. I thought since I had lst'ed her so late in flowering allowing the bottom leaves to get more light, it caused her to go into a re-veg state, as the lower leaves/stems really began to bush out and are not budding. The slow down in flowering may be attributable to a lot of rain here recently, which has been following my application of flowering nutes, probably serving to flush MIQ pretty well. I don't know any of this for certain - just putting together some hypotheses (but, too lazy to test them).

I have a magnifying glass too - will have to see if it helps me to see the trichs better. I'd still like that loupe to be able to take some pictures, but it may be possible with the magnifying glass - never know til we try, eh?

As for the boutique, I sent them an email, but then went to the website and read where they will not reply to a status email until the order is 21 days old, so I have a few more days. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed the beans will arrive.

Thanks for looking in on me again, my friend! As this is my first real grow, I need all of the insight, advice, and encouragement I can get. I look forward to watching your ladies grow up as well. I will be by your log again soon - I'm going out of town today, so maybe later tonight after a few bat hits. Aloha!

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Originally Posted by Jerry Garcia 2007

Jakezking,

You are doing a wonderful job:), those are some very healthy looking babies and you are doing a wonderful job with the LST'ing.

I don't see anything I can add, just keep up the good work.

JG

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JG, your presence within my log is much appreciated. The more "hoorahs" I get from you guys and gals with the experienced green thumbs, the better I feel about how I am doing. It's one thing to see it with my own eyes, but since it's my first grow, I don't have much personally to compare it to - other than my viewing and reading logs on this board.

I will drop back by your log to check on your blue beauties - hopefully tonight! I wish you well, and hope you have a great day, my friend!

hey jake, i'm fairly new here as well but I see your MIQ is doing quite well and I'm sorry I didn't reply sooner but doing my own research on strains and methods has kept me busy. From the looks of things and reading the full log, you're correct and the flowering stage slowed just a bit from the lst but will def benefit with more bud, and honestly, who wouldn't want that :jointsmile:. I'll most def keep an eye out for the pre-harvest/post-harvest pics.

keep up the good work and i'm sure this first time, successful, grow will not be your last. look forward to seeing some more of your efforts prevail.

-good morning

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Originally Posted by Mr.GoodMorning02

hey jake, i'm fairly new here as well but I see your MIQ is doing quite well and I'm sorry I didn't reply sooner but doing my own research on strains and methods has kept me busy. From the looks of things and reading the full log, you're correct and the flowering stage slowed just a bit from the lst but will def benefit with more bud, and honestly, who wouldn't want that :jointsmile:. I'll most def keep an eye out for the pre-harvest/post-harvest pics.

keep up the good work and i'm sure this first time, successful, grow will not be your last. look forward to seeing some more of your efforts prevail.

-good morning

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Mr.GoodMorning02, I appreciate you stopping by for a spell, my friend! I appreciate your comments and for substantiating the flowering slow down - that's what it looked like to me. I agree, I don't mind the slow down as long as there are additional buds at the end, which it looks like there will be! I look forward to providing you and everyone else pre and post harvest pics. I've got a while to go, and it's really going to be hard to keep from jumping on MIQ when her buds get bigger!

Take good care out there, and thanks again for stopping by! Feel free to come by at any point in time, and if you have any questions/comments, please leave them.

hey jake i have read thru your log i wanna say great job and she look:clap::dance:s awesome

Hi,

Great log and a nice looking little lady. I have had stunted plants from time to time. On my last grow I had three Swiss Miss girls all started at the same time treated identically two grew to 5' while the third barely made 2. I also had a stunted White Widow...go figure.

I've ordered twice with Seed Boutique and both orders were here in 10 days. It may not be their fault your order could have been intercepted....

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Originally Posted by lunarose

Hi,
I've ordered twice with Seed Boutique and both orders were here in 10 days. It may not be their fault your order could have been intercepted....

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I was going to mention this in my next reply, but will elaborate now since it has come up. I agree, and think if you still haven't received them, more than likely it wasn't the shop, but they were interdicted (not cool). I have never had any problems with them, or any shop I have dealt with for that matter, and would be more worried about Customs... I have had customs interdict a CIV substance and got a "love letter" from them about importation blah blah etc, but it was CIV and I had authorization to have it (though I never told customs, I just let them keep it). I don't know what they would do with seeds since they are CI. Anyway, hopefully you see them soon! I'll be back probably tomorrow to check on the log, as well as update my own. Happy and safe gardening, all!

Good luck with your bean order. I guess that just happens sometimes. Your plant, she is doing really fine, man. Good job with the journal too.

Shov

Jake that mighty-freeze is looking healthy and is looking quite impressive! now is the mighty-freeze a autoflower strain? a few questions.. 1. how tall is she? 2. Whats the nut you are giving her. 3 How long has she been flowering for up to this point? 4. Whats the yeild (round about) that it's gonna produce? thanks. sorry for so many questions. :)

Well i just found out it was a autoflower. now have you tryed (or done) feeding molassess to you MIQ?

First of all, I'm stunned and excited about all of the responses and interest MIQ has been getting of late. I'm not used to this amount of activity in my log, except for my own hustling and bustling about. Thanks to everyone for paying ye ole MIQ log a visit. Now to get around to responding to everyone.

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Originally Posted by HBcubs2

hey jake i have read thru your log i wanna say great job and she look:clap::dance:s awesome

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HBcubs2, I thank you very much for your comments and time spent reviewing my log. Since it's my first grow, there is not much good information from me, but hopefully you gained some understanding from the others who have responded to my log. Thanks again for stopping by - you're welcome anytime!

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Originally Posted by lunarose

Hi,

Great log and a nice looking little lady. I have had stunted plants from time to time. On my last grow I had three Swiss Miss girls all started at the same time treated identically two grew to 5' while the third barely made 2. I also had a stunted White Widow...go figure.

I've ordered twice with Seed Boutique and both orders were here in 10 days. It may not be their fault your order could have been intercepted....

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lunarose, I appreciate the information on your stunted plants. Any idea what caused yours to become stunted? I attributed mine to some interference by my dogs. It sounds like yours had the same conditions, but I didn't know if you had attributed the stunting to anything in particular, even if it was just a guess. As for seed boutique, I am not blaming anyone at this point, and realize the beans could very well have been intercepted or otherwise lost in the mail - it wouldn't be the first time the U.S. Mail had lost something; but, I was/am hoping the beans were not intercepted. I'll keep my fingers crossed they may still be on their way. I will contact the boutique again after 21 days of order have passed.

Thanks for coming by my grow log, and hopefully you will stop back by again sometime. Be good out there!

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Originally Posted by Delta9Haze420

I was going to mention this in my next reply, but will elaborate now since it has come up. I agree, and think if you still haven't received them, more than likely it wasn't the shop, but they were interdicted (not cool). I have never had any problems with them, or any shop I have dealt with for that matter, and would be more worried about Customs... I have had customs interdict a CIV substance and got a "love letter" from them about importation blah blah etc, but it was CIV and I had authorization to have it (though I never told customs, I just let them keep it). I don't know what they would do with seeds since they are CI. Anyway, hopefully you see them soon! I'll be back probably tomorrow to check on the log, as well as update my own. Happy and safe gardening, all!

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D9, thanks for stopping by again and for providing me information on the possible interdiction. I had been concerned about ordering beans, but read somewhere that Customs interdiction normally only resulted in a letter, such as you described, so I went forward with my order. I'm still hopeful that the beans failure to arrive is not due to Customs. Hopefully, boutique can track the order to give me a status once 21 days from order have passed. I'll see what they can do and let everyone know. I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

I'm looking forward to your grow log being updated, and I hope all is well with you and yours, my friend!

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Originally Posted by Shovelhandle

Good luck with your bean order. I guess that just happens sometimes. Your plant, she is doing really fine, man. Good job with the journal too.Shov

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Shov, it's good to see you again, my friend! I'm still hopeful about my beans too, but if they don't arrive, then you're exactly right - that's the risk I took. Thanks for your kind comments on MIQ and my log. I was able to show a couple of family members your harvest pictures over this past weekend, and their jaws hit the floor! Congratulations again on your last grow and harvest! I know you and yours will have an incredible July 4th celebration! Thanks again for stopping by!

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Originally Posted by camoxnhx

Jake that mighty-freeze is looking healthy and is looking quite impressive! now is the mighty-freeze a autoflower strain? a few questions.. 1. how tall is she? 2. Whats the nut you are giving her. 3 How long has she been flowering for up to this point? 4. Whats the yeild (round about) that it's gonna produce? thanks. sorry for so many questions. :)

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camoxnhx, thanks for the compliments on MIQ, bro! Here are a few responses to your questions:

1) MIQ is an autoflower strain - something I had guessed and come to conclude based upon watching her develop and from others' comments. She is a cross of Mighty Mite and Friesland, and she is a wicked smoke - based upon my experience with her ancestor(s). A very social and peppy high.

2) MIQ is probably around 1' to 1 1/2' in height. I haven't ever formally measured her.

3) During veg I gave her some Superthrive, based upon at first 1/2 measurement, then later upon full recommended dosage. Not long after she began blooming, I have been giving her Green Light Super Bloom - at first 1/2 dosage, and now a full dosage. However, without fail, after every flower feeding I have given her, it has rained buckets, so I'm guessing most, if not all, of her flower nutes have been flushed from her bucket. But, I still only provide her nutes maybe once a week.

4) As of today, MIQ has been flowering for approximately 36 days - It appears the lst slowed down her flowering, so she'll probably take a bit longer. Her buds have not filled in much at all, and she appears to be adding new sites every day or 2. Only a few of her pistils have dried to hairs, and she shows no signs of turning amber. I have run across no information on how long Mighty Freeze take to flower, but am planning on just watching her development, and taking my harvest cues from her.

5) As for what MIQ may yield - your guess is as good as mine at this point. She is my first real grow, so I don't know what to expect. If I had to guess, I would be willing to venture she will produce somewhere from 1/4 to 1 ounce dried? That's a pretty big range, considering the low weight. At one point, I would have said she'd be closer to a 1/4, but her bottom bud sites are really developing following her lst, so she may surprise me yet!

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Originally Posted by camoxnhx

Well i just found out it was a autoflower. now have you tryed (or done) feeding molassess to you MIQ?

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Another good question - I have not provided MIQ any molasses, but have read a very extensive article on this board about such. I was going to jet out to the store to purchase some blackstrap molasses, but I'm terrible about being sidetracked. I have not made it at this point, and don't know if I will. The concept of the molasses is mighty interesting - essentially providing carbohydrates/sugars to the plant to greater assist it in bud development. It seems like I've read great things about it on here, but I will probably continue to be lazy and provide MIQ only the Super Bloom I have on hand.

camoxnhx, I truly appreciate all of your inquiries, and there is absolutely no need to apologize for asking questions. I appreciate your interest in my log and MIQ, and will always provide whatever knowledge/insight I may have. Since I am a newbie grower, I don't have much knowledge/insight, but am happy to provide what I do have.

Take good care out there, and drop anytime! I look forward to following your log too, my friend!

i also for got at what internode did you LST you MIQ and do you know if it would work with LR 2?

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Originally Posted by camoxnhx

i also for got at what internode did you LST you MIQ and do you know if it would work with LR 2?

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Good question - I have absolutely no idea. I hooked MIQ with a large paper clip about 3/4 of the way up her stem, then bent her down to hook the other end of the paper clip on the lip of the bucket. MIQ is a fairly dense lil' lady, so I don't know that I could even get an accurate internodal count if I tried.

I probably should have lst'ed MIQ much earlier in her life, but had not done any research on Mighty Freeze strain to determine she was an autoflowerer, so I got sort of blind sided when she began flowering, thereby missing out on the chance to fim her.

Her main stem began budding up pretty thickly too only in the past few weeks, so I didn't see much need to lst her early on. But, now that I have lst'ed her, there is no doubt it was the right thing to do, as her bottom buds have really taken off! I'll probably post pics on or before Thursday of this week, due to ensuing July 4th celebration, and you will really be able to see how much MIQ's bottom buds have taken off, even since the last pictures were posted this past Thursday!

Thanks again for your questions, my friend! I truly do appreciate them. Maybe one day I can actually give you answers that will help?

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Originally Posted by camoxnhx

i also for got at what internode did you LST you MIQ and do you know if it would work with LR 2?

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you can lst literally any plant at any time. key word is low stress - if you start very young (1 to 2 nodes) than it is necessary to do it carefully and slowly. ive seen people lst their seedlings. i have topped plants and seen a definite stunt in progress (especially on youngins). but lst-ing should not stunt the plant, it is usually bending back up towards the light within 4-5 hours max

i see no reason that LR2 would be any different, besides the fact that the training would be primarily done during flower, which isn't a problem either

oh and jake, I am wondering why your leaves look like reveg leaves if its autoflower, is it 100% autoflower? have you noticed any revegging? you will usually see new shoots either coming out the top or sides of the bud

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Originally Posted by greenatik

you can lst literally any plant at any time. key word is low stress - if you start very young (1 to 2 nodes) than it is necessary to do it carefully and slowly. ive seen people lst their seedlings. i have topped plants and seen a definite stunt in progress (especially on youngins). but lst-ing should not stunt the plant, it is usually bending back up towards the light within 4-5 hours max

i see no reason that LR2 would be any different, besides the fact that the training would be primarily done during flower, which isn't a problem either

oh and jake, I am wondering why your leaves look like reveg leaves if its autoflower, is it 100% autoflower? have you noticed any revegging? you will usually see new shoots either coming out the top or sides of the bud

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greenatik, thanks for your visit as well as your impart of experienced knowledge of lst'ing! I am not certain if Mighty Freeze is 100% autoflower - there really isn't much information on Mighty Freeze on the internet. I should ask the friend of mine who was kind enough to pass some MF bud along, but I have repeatedly failed to inquire. As for the MIQ's lower bud leaf appearance, I feel it is attributable to the lst'ing, which seemed to allow the bottom bud sites to develop (re-veg). These sites really looked like D9's plants - check his log out! The leaf patterns were varied from 3 leaves to even 2 leaves and a single leaf in parts - very strange, but I attributed it to these lower sites finally obtaining a certain level of sunlight, thereby serving to throw them into a re-veg state.

I'll try to get some pictures on Thursday to really focus on the lower bud site development. Needless to say, I'm a huge fan of lst'ing - now more than ever! Lst'ing has served to increase the potential yield of MIQ at least 3-fold!

Thanks for taking on camoxnhx's last question with a more thorough and experienced answer, greenatik! And, thanks again for stopping by, my friend!

Your Plants Are Lookin Great! Well At Least Since The Last Pics You Posted...


Good Luck, And Hope To See More Pics.:greenthumb:

Hi,

I have always chalked the stunting baring any obvious cause to genetics. The stunted ones were of different strains, different sexes, grown different years and different nutes. And I don't believe I saw any difference between them when they were seedlings.

I had to do some list'ng myself today even after topping they all started to cram up into the top of the GH.

If your order doesn't come through I'd wait until Dec to try again, I've always believed that with all the holiday mail traffic there is less of a chance of it getting intercepted.

So when is harvest day?

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Originally Posted by killfrenzi

Your Plants Are Lookin Great! Well At Least Since The Last Pics You Posted...


Good Luck, And Hope To See More Pics.:greenthumb:

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killfrenzi, I'm glad to have you in my log! I am about to post some pictures I just took a couple of hours ago. I've been busy catching up on others' logs, and got sidetracked from posting to mine. I hope you enjoy the new pictures! Be good out there!

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Originally Posted by lunarose

Hi,

I have always chalked the stunting baring any obvious cause to genetics. The stunted ones were of different strains, different sexes, grown different years and different nutes. And I don't believe I saw any difference between them when they were seedlings.

I had to do some list'ng myself today even after topping they all started to cram up into the top of the GH.

If your order doesn't come through I'd wait until Dec to try again, I've always believed that with all the holiday mail traffic there is less of a chance of it getting intercepted.

So when is harvest day?

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lunarose, thanks for your insight on the stunting. I am going to chalk mine up to genetics too, as it takes MIQ's stunting off my hands! HA HA HA! I do hate to think I am the one that caused her short stature, but she's looking pretty good despite her restricted height.

Do you have a log or thread going? It sounds like you have quite a few grows under your belt, and would love to learn more from you! I am much like a sponge these days - soaking up everything around me, trying to learn as much as possible to improve my own grow(s).

As for the seed order, I went ahead and placed an order through Rhino. It was shipped yesterday, July 2nd, and from what I've read most folks receive their beans within 7-10 days - I'm keeping my fingers crossed. If this order doesn't make it, then I'm out of the ordering business, and will have to try to track down some beans through friends.

Harvest? I don't really have a date yet. Today MIQ is Day 63 of life for her, and she has been flowering for approximately 39 days - working on 6 weeks. Her new buds are still a bit thin, so I figure she has at least 3 weeks left, but will continue to monitor her progress, giving her the axe once she really shows some amber.

Thanks for coming back by, luna! I hope to see you more often!

Alright, I've been chompin' at the bit to post new pictures, as MIQ has really been working on her lower bud site development. Since the lst took place, MIQ's lower buds have taken off, and one of these bud sites is growing to about the same height as the main lst'ed cola.

Overall, I think MIQ is developing well. I'm looking for her to really begin to fatten her buds up, and will be adding some Green Light Super Bloom nutes to her soil today - it's been about 1 week since she last had bloom ferts, but I wanted to let her dry out a bit since all of the rain she had received. Her bucket was pretty soggy for a few days, but the perllite really makes the difference to allow better drainage.

I do have a question for those who are blessing my log with your presence. Take a look at pictures showing MIQ's lower leaves - they have a bunch of small "pinprick" yellow spots on them. I am attributing these spots to the work of a pest. I will search the board to try to find an answer to them. I have some insect spray that states it is fine to use on flowering plants right up to harvest - Schultz All Purpose Insect Killer, but I am reluctant to use it since I am thinking MIQ has only 1 month left to harvest? Any suggestions/advice in dealing with these spots would be appreciated. At the end of the day, I'm not too concerned with them, as they seem to be limited to the lower leaves; but, I don't want them to get out of hand.

I guess that's about all of the new information. As always, I look forward to your thoughts, comments, suggestions, or simply stoned messages. I hope all is well with everyone, and I hope you enjoy the pictures. Here they are....

looks good...
i hope my new ladies will do as good...
and thanks for tips i will take it into consideration for my girls ...

Here are the rest of the pictures. I always have a hard time selecting only 10 pictures from those I have taken. I hope you enjoy!

Just to provide a short update to the log - I have cut all of the leaves which showed signs of insect damage/infestation. There were probably only about 4 to 5 fan leaves, all of which were lower on MIQ, so I figured it would cause MIQ no harm. She still has plenty of leaves to feed her ripening buds.

I gave her a full dosage of flower nutes, and am excited to see how they treat her. She has been on a 1/4 to a 1/2 dosage for about 21 days, so I figured she could step up to a full scoop. I am going out of town for a couple of days, so it will be nice checking back in on her when I return.

I wish everyone a good, long weekend! Be good out there!

wow jake, the lst really looks like it's paying off. those new bud sites are coming along nicely and from the last pics you posted, i'd say the second and third are excellent shots of the new growth.

i'm not sure how long she should flower for, but it looks like those bud sites can use some more time. and sorry to hear about the bugs, little critters can't keep their hands off god's gift either lol.

Hope you and everyone else has a wonderful holiday. enjoy the bbqs and fireworks. take care

-gmorning

Jake,

She is looking fine, being on the shorter side of life myself I say there is nothing wrong with a little stuntiness(VBG)

I haven't done a grow log yet. I am planning on picking up some clones next week,I have never grown from clones before so I may start one then. I haven't had very many grows the one I have now is my 4th and my first was a total disaster ended up killing 6 out of 7 and the seventh was pretty pathetic. I had a few grows in the 70s and 80s and growing then was so much easier! I'd just throw a couple seeds in a pot filled with whatever dirt I picked up, no nutes, watered whenever. Now I worry about everything!

Good luck with the seeds hopefully they'll make it to you this time. I always stress whenever I order seeds....which strains so many to choose from......should I order enough to last me a couple of grows knowing that I only have one outdoor grow a year so the seeds might not be used for a couple of years or do I order just enough for one grow and hope the seeds make it next time around....sigh really I am not anal(G)

Really nice looking Tight Plants. The Nodes can not be more closer:thumbsup:

Good Luck GL

Beautiful! Im sure your plant will be fine, i have heard that auto flowering cannabis strains are stronger plants. But that could have been complete bull shit since i read it on another forum.

Looking good Jake,

I read a few posts back that you were thinking of using Mollasses.

Don't!!! My past experiance is it causes nute lock. your plants look healthy right now. Do not change a thing you are doing in your nute program except start adding a finishing nute like Fox Farm Cha-Ching.

LOL JG

so im just in awe right now jake... that mighty freeze is getting desiel!! thats gonna be a awsome yeild and smoke! im so intreged. Thanks for all your help and your info!

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Originally Posted by Mr.GoodMorning02

wow jake, the lst really looks like it's paying off. those new bud sites are coming along nicely and from the last pics you posted, i'd say the second and third are excellent shots of the new growth.

i'm not sure how long she should flower for, but it looks like those bud sites can use some more time. and sorry to hear about the bugs, little critters can't keep their hands off god's gift either lol.

Hope you and everyone else has a wonderful holiday. enjoy the bbqs and fireworks. take care

-gmorning

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Mr.GoodMorning02, I appreciate your compliments, my friend! You are right in saying the lst is paying off - I am super excited and happy that I finally bent MIQ over, as she has really taken off! I agree with you that she has a bit longer to go; I'm thinking maybe another 4 weeks, but I will just watch her develop to see. I'm thinking about giving her nutes for another 2 weeks, then just putting her on a water diet to clean her out prior to harvest.

As for the bugs - I can't agree with you more, as I can't blame the bugs for doing exactly what I want to do. I hope you had an incredible 4th and are still enjoying your weekend! Be good out there!

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Originally Posted by lunarose

Jake,

She is looking fine, being on the shorter side of life myself I say there is nothing wrong with a little stuntiness(VBG)

I haven't done a grow log yet. I am planning on picking up some clones next week,I have never grown from clones before so I may start one then. I haven't had very many grows the one I have now is my 4th and my first was a total disaster ended up killing 6 out of 7 and the seventh was pretty pathetic. I had a few grows in the 70s and 80s and growing then was so much easier! I'd just throw a couple seeds in a pot filled with whatever dirt I picked up, no nutes, watered whenever. Now I worry about everything!

Good luck with the seeds hopefully they'll make it to you this time. I always stress whenever I order seeds....which strains so many to choose from......should I order enough to last me a couple of grows knowing that I only have one outdoor grow a year so the seeds might not be used for a couple of years or do I order just enough for one grow and hope the seeds make it next time around....sigh really I am not anal(G)

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I agree there is nothing wrong with being short; my Mom is a tiny lady, but she is tough as nails. She never had a problem keeping me under control, even though I'm almost 1' taller than she is. And, MIQ appears to be healthy, which is all I could have asked for on my first grow.

I can see how in this day and age of so many products out there, it's really hard to complete a grow. One wrong move with one wrong product, and your plant can be a goner. If I were you, I'd go back to the throwing a seed in a bucket and just giving it the bare essentials - water and sunlight. I've jumped in here and there and provided additional nutrients, but mostly I've tried to stand to the side and watch MIQ grow. It has been a difficult lesson in patience for me, because I've wanted her to do more, grow faster, and produce more - but, it was not her path. Allowing her to follow her own genetic predisposition has so far allowed her to lead a relatively healthy life. I hope she continues on her path!

I also know what you are talking about with seed ordering. I'm like a kid in a candy store - it's so hard to choose from all the amazing strains. If and when I get mine, I'll have to start a new log for them. It's getting late in the season, but I think I have enough of a season left in my neck of the woods.

Be good out there! It was good hearing from you again, luna!

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Originally Posted by GreenLeaf420

Really nice looking Tight Plants. The Nodes can not be more closer:thumbsup:

Good Luck GL

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GreenLeaf420! I appreciate your stopping by and leaving some compliments, bro! As short as MIQ is, it's nice she has developed so tightly, providing for an increase in yield while remaining vertically challenged. I'm really interested to see how dense her buds are upon harvest. I have not really touched them to this point, as I have not wanted to knock any trichs off.

Take good care out there, amigo, and drop back by anytime!

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Originally Posted by anbesol

Beautiful! Im sure your plant will be fine, i have heard that auto flowering cannabis strains are stronger plants. But that could have been complete bull shit since i read it on another forum.

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anbesol! Thanks for stopping by, my friend! I appreciate your comment and reassurance MIQ will be fine following her recent pest issue. I just checked on her after a few days absence, and she appears perfectly fine. It rained again while I was gone, serving to flush her bucket from the floweirng nutes I had just added on Thursday. But, I can't really complain, as she does appear awfully healthy! I'll have to check into the autoflower hardiness possibility - it has been pretty darn easy raising MIQ, and I wouldn't mind future, easy grows!

Thanks again for stopping by, and for reading my log. Come on back by to check in on MIQ, as her days are numbered!

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Originally Posted by Jerry Garcia 2007

Looking good Jake,

I read a few posts back that you were thinking of using Mollasses.

Don't!!! My past experiance is it causes nute lock. your plants look healthy right now. Do not change a thing you are doing in your nute program except start adding a finishing nute like Fox Farm Cha-Ching.

LOL JG

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JG, I am excited you stopped by to provide me some insight into the use of mollasses! I was considering it, as it appeared to really help people get a big boost. I hate to hear you did not have good luck with it, but your experience has certainly helped me make up my mind. I like to try to keep things simple anyway, so not adding mollasses to the mix will help me do so! Thanks again for your insight, and for stopping by my log!

I hope all is well with you and yours and you enjoy the rest of your weekend!

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Originally Posted by camoxnhx

so im just in awe right now jake... that mighty freeze is getting desiel!! thats gonna be a awsome yeild and smoke! im so intreged. Thanks for all your help and your info!

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camoxnhx! Dude, I am certain your Mazar and LR2s will be looking even better than MIQ. I am getting excited about MIQ's final days, but I have to temper my excitement with patience, as she will have a couple of weeks, at least, of drying and curing following harvest. I know I will not want to wait, but I have heard some terrible stories of good bud gone bad due to failure to properly cure. I can't wait to update you and everyone else on the yield and smoke! And, I really don't have much experience or knowledge to impart for your grow, but will always give freely of what I have - until I am told to keep my trap shut!

I hope you are having a great weekend, and let's hope the remaining day and 1/2 will actually last awhile instead of racing by! Be good out there, my friend!

Jake,

You know I just realized your Mighty is an autoflowering strain that being the case your girl isn't stunted at all. The autoflowering strains are small they are suppose to go from seed to harvest in something like 8 weeks and only reach about 1-2ft so she is just perfect.

So what seeds did you decide on? I have always been partial to the white widow because it is one of the easier ones to grow and have a decent yield. I want to try PPP, Ice, Jack Hera and maybe a land race indica..... I just got three clones today so I may be starting a grow log.

luna, thanks for straightening me out on MIQ. I have not even though about that very logical fact! That makes perfect sense! I had read somewhere that others' Mighty Freeze strains grow upwards of 5', but being that they are autoflowerers, I don't see how that is possible, since so much energy is automatically shifted to flowering rather than vegetative growth at a certain time. Who knows? Maybe after a few more grows and years of experience under my belt, I'll come to know and understand more.

As for the beans, I ordered Nirvana's PPP (again), Nirvana's Bubblicious, and Seedsman's Colombian Red Haze. I'm really looking forward to the Red Haze, as it's 80% sativa, and I've really been wanting to try a good sativa! I was doing some reading today about a "Dalat" strain of sativa from Vietnam - may have to track some of that down!

What strains are your 3 clones? You should start a log up - I'd love to follow it! Thanks for stopping by again!

While I'm awaiting the arrival of my pedigree beans, my bro-in-law and sister were kind enough to share 8 bagbeans with me. I began germinating 4 of them on Saturday, and they are beginning to pop. They should be ready for jiffy pellets in the next day or 2 - we'll see where they take me.

I don't know much about the genetics of the bagweed. It was pretty darn good for being as cheap as he got it. It appeared to be some commercial bricked weed. It was a nice relaxing bud, from what I could tell - we were busy mixing it with some bud a friend of mine gave me (his stuff is wicked - same friend that gave me the Mighty Freeze).

Also, MIQ seems to have really slowed her pistil development while her buds have been elongating. Does anyone know if such development, or lack thereof, is normal? I guess maybe she will begin producing pistils/more pistils again once she starts fattening her buds up? I'm just a little curious - I'll search around for an answer to these questions too, just in case no one comments on them.

Anyway, I'll keep everyone updated with MIQ and the new beans - both those ordered and those sprouting.

Alright, so I have a lot of questions now that I have done a bit more investigating about the bud elongation issue MIQ is having. Her buds look like a braided rope, as the calyxes have not opened for pistils to "flower" out. I am not certain I have anything to be concerned with at this point, but thought I would document this issue for future reference.

I was doing a bit of reading in my 2d office, and came across a term, "stacking calyxes," in a discussion of bud development and the concept of additional flowering phases. Since MIQ has been flowering for some time, this article made sense to me, and I reached a preliminary conclusion that due to the lst'ing and additional vegetative stage MIQ experienced which served to slow/halt her flowering cycle, MIQ is now entering a 2d flowering phase, causing her to elongate her buds through this stacking of calyxes.

However, when I searched the board this morning, I came across this thread - http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-gr...acking+calyxes. It seems to highlight MIQ's issue and the experienced growers and powers that be conclusively determined the issue to be the result of heat stress. The pictures in the thread were not the greatest, due to grow room lighting, so I couldn't really compare them to MIQ. I will post pictures of her within this reply for comparison purposes and to allow/encourage comments/suggestions.

MIQ has been outside from about Day 13 of her life, and the temperatures have remained fairly constant - in the high 80's to mid 90's. Since she has experienced the heat from the beginning of her life and has not had an issue to this point in time, I hope heat stress is not the cause of these stacking calyxes. I am going to do a bit more research on this issue to hopefully come up with an answer for myself. However, any and all input/suggestions/advice is welcomed and will be appreciated.

Here are the pictures which should clearly show the stacking calyxes on MIQ. I've also thrown in a picture of some gerbera daisies. My wife took the picture, and I really like it. Since several outdoor growers I appreciate have thrown in pictures of their natural surroundings, such picture is my feeble attempt to reciprocate.

Thanks again for any light you can shed on this stacking calyxes issue.

I think there is nothing wrong whit your MIQ. That is some secondary growth, which is normal for Mighty Mite. I found some info which says that in 6-8 week of flowering MM buds "explode"....which means the buds show some new growth....MM is a indica/ruderalis hybrid...
I think MIQ is a little confused because she has started to flower before it would be normal, and now that the days are getting shorter she is flowering for the second time....imo....it is normal for this strain...she will keep on flowering for some time and than you will be able to harvest some nice buds...
So, keep up the great work my friend....I'm really exited about the new seeds you ordered, those are some awesome strains....it will be a great show...:thumbsup:
And the daisies are beautiful.....thanks.....:hippy:

zebulon, you TOTALLY ROCK! I truly appreciate you taking time to answer my questions. You've given me clear, concise answers to all of the questions that have plagued me throughout this, my first grow. You have gone the extra mile, and for that I am extremely grateful, my friend! Thanks!

Hey, no problem Jake....i'm happy i could help...i really like this log, it will be great when your seeds arrive and you gonna grow out those lovely strains....can't wait to see it...:hippy:
And MIQ looks really great and frosty, it will be some premium quality herb for sure....

hell yah. :thumbsup: way up.

that bud looks like hightimes worthy.

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Hey, no problem Jake....i'm happy i could help...i really like this log, it will be great when your seeds arrive and you gonna grow out those lovely strains....can't wait to see it...:hippy:
And MIQ looks really great and frosty, it will be some premium quality herb for sure....

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Thanks for the compliments to MIQ, zeb! I hope to be able to show you a grow with the new beans - I'm keeping my fingers crossed as they should be here in the next couple of days. Thanks again for all of your help!

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hell yah. :thumbsup: way up.

that bud looks like hightimes worthy.

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hydro, thanks much for that amazing compliment! I don't know about being High Times worthy, as there are better candidates on this board for certain; but, I truly appreciate your sentiment, my friend! I need to drop by to see how all of your lovely ladies are doing! You have quite a few on your hands. Thanks for stopping by!