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Thanks guys, soz for the little rage im trying to stop smoking on weekdays so im a bit crabby :P As for the ppm i dont have a metre so its fairly hard.
Would it be possible to bring the lights back to veg and maybe just take a few clones from these plants and restart my grow in soil ? Say if i took 8 clones, do any of them have a chance of surviving ?
Thanks guys
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Darbolah put them in a bigger container.....if you want add some soil to it. Those plants aren't gone by any means....they just need some tweaking.
I like the idea of repotting them into soil.....just move everything into a larger container with quality soil in it. Hopefully that will solve your problem.
Good luck. :)
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Well i had another plant in another pot and i repotted it into soil and it died because the perlite doesnt encourage a good rootball, rather scattered roots and it was to hard to salvage every last root. I just want to finish this grow and maybe get something to smoke. My next grow i am going to use soil with some perlite but for the moment i just want to help these plants make it through the next 7 weeks and then i will ditch the hempy bucket. Iv put the pot back into the resevoir so the roots wont be so dry. I actually think it was underwatering or undernute but i will soon see.
Also since you seem to know alot about growing, what sort of soil would be simple and easy to grow in with minimal repotting and minimal water testing as i dont have ppm metre ?
Thanks for the help WH
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Well there has to be another answer here because I've seen some nice finished stuff in hempy buckets.....never GROWN in one mind you, but seen some nice results.
I like Fox Farms Oceans Forest or Happy Frog. My thought is that if you add some soil it will help with a couple things.....add some good nutes and buffer your ph at the same time.
Worth a try before you dump them. They look like they were growing happily for awhile so I think your issue is fixable.....it's just figuring out exactly what the fix is. ;)
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thanks weedhound, im gonna try my best to sort the problem even if it just means keeping it alive for a few weeks. I dont know how soil would go as the bottom 2 inches of the pot is filled with water so i probs cant put soil near the bottom but i could try and mix some through the top i spose. If i was to use organic soil and add about 30% soil where abouts would i want my nutes and ph ?
Thanks mate
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FREEZE MISTER!!!! :wtf: What did you say???? The last two inches have water in them??? Constantly??? Are those roots sitting in water young man?!?! :eek: Because if they are without areation (sp?) there's your problem right there......your roots are drowing. Get rid of the sitting water and I bet your problem will go away. What kind of drainage do you have go on there?
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thanks weedhound, im gonna try my best to sort the problem even if it just means keeping it alive for a few weeks. I dont know how soil would go as the bottom 2 inches of the pot is filled with water so i probs cant put soil near the bottom but i could try and mix some through the top i spose. If i was to use organic soil and add about 30% soil where abouts would i want my nutes and ph ?
Thanks mate
Stinky!! Soil questions!! Help!!
(this always works for me. :D)
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we, to answer your question the plants are sitting in 2' of water but the level changes due to the pump system. The aim of the hempy bucket is to have 2-3' of water present at all times at the bottom and the roots "accommodate" themselves around the water accordingly. The tread i read about them it doesnt need airstones cause the water isnt living in the roots its just touching enough to revieve moisture.
If iv got this wrong please let me know but i did have the plants out of the water as i thought it was the problem when stinky told me the water was no good. Then after reading some threads about hempy buckets iv decided to just adjust my ph, nutes and waterlevels to what they suggest is good.
Let me know what you think :)
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Well I can't speak for that but I'd certainly get rid of the water, establish good drainage and transplant the perlite and everything you can into a larger container ALSO with good drainage and quality soil. Then I'd water with plain ph correct tap water until I was sure it was doing better and THEN reconsider nutes.
The whole water in the bottom thing just sounds wrong to me.
Good luck whichever way you choose to treat it. Keep us updated. ;)
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any hint or tip on transplanting to soil as the last time i did it i killed the plant. Also because the roots might be tangled together, any comments ?
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Only to try and untangle them as much as you can. I've cut off sections of roots in my hydro before with no ill issues so I don't think it's a matter of saving every teeny root possible. I would make sure your soil is airy (you already have a lot of perlite lol) and your drainage is good.
You said your plant died last time you put it in soil. What exactly did it do? Burn up? Turn yellow? Curl the leaves? Putting it in quality soil is supposed to have a GOOD efffect on your plant....not kill it so lets see if we can pinpoint why that happened as well.
Edit: can you get a photo of the roots before you transplant? I want to make sure the roots are healthy when they go into the soil to begin with or you'll REALLY have problems transplanting.
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Thanks for guiding me throught his mate, im not entirely sure how you want me to take a photo of the roots ? I can try and do that for you :)
Im also not to sure on the soil. iv got organic soil (doesnt have contents or fert content) and i also have perlite. Do you think the yeild i can expect would make it worth my while ?
Peace:pimp:
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Well I'm not going to make any bets on your yield until the plant is doing better. Ha ha....good point about the root photo since I was thinking hydro....my mistake.
I don't know enough about soil to tell you whether or not your standard organic soil stuff would work.
STINKY!! HELP!!
Edit: Also, if that were my plant I'd try to save it rather than starting over.
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yeah im sorta keen to plant it as its on day 7 of flower and its looking really nice and there is a fair few bud formations on it.
On another topic, for my next grow i was wanting to grow about 4 plants in a system (possibly hydro) and i dont think money will be an issue but i wanted something low maintainence and low risk of flooding out my room. Remember that my tent is only about 70-80 cm high and there is a 400watter consuming the top 10cm. What would you possibly suggest taking into consideration i am pretty handy and can get my hands of most tools.
Thanks heaps weedhound.
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Darbolah put them in a bigger container.....if you want add some soil to it. Those plants aren't gone by any means....they just need some tweaking.
This is what I suggested too in one of the other threads.
You're growing in a very non-standard system, p[ractically trying to reinvent the wheel, when there are a few pretty basic simple systems that everyone here is familiar with.
I also think you are underfeeding- 1/3 strength during what should be a time of aggressive veg growth? Why?
I'm merging this thread too.
PLEASE stop making new threads, because we have to all go through the same Q n A process AGAIN every time you start a new one. If no one answers, it's because no one knows, and does not want to lead you in the wrong direction.
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This is the guy who can help you... yeah, we can link up to other sites if they aren't trying to sell goods or services.
Cannabis and Marijuana seeds :: HomeGrown420 - The Hempy Bucket
this one has troubleshooting stuff
Auto-watering a Hempy Bucket - The Garden's Cure
and the hempy collective:
The Hempy Collective - Marijuana Growing
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thankyou again, everyones been heaps of help. I pretty much rushed into a system that i probs shouldnt have used for this. Im considering alternatives for my next grow in a few weeks. The system i got is pretty much an auto hempy bucket right ? Anyways im using full strenght nutes now with a ph of 6.2, so im pretty much running everything just as the hempy-buckets guy has said in that thread.
I do think it is the nutes because it happened around the time i went from full strenght vega to 1/3 strenght flora. I probably shouldnt have done that but its all experience now.
Peace
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And the benevolent moderator Stinskter solves it again. :)
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why ppl have lockout of nutrients and shit, i didnt even know my ph and my plants are mostly fine, i think its a matter on going cheap on soil so we call "we get what we put in to it" no offence but its my view
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why ppl have lockout of nutrients and shit, i didnt even know my ph and my plants are mostly fine, i think its a matter on going cheap on soil so we call "we get what we put in to it" no offence but its my view
I wouldn't necessarily call it going cheap but rather not being educated about the product you are about to plant your seedlings into. Which from the following sounds like you're apart of this same group:
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i didnt even know my ph and my plants are mostly fine
Not trying to get on you but if you aren't even checking your ph periodically then you really have no room to judge someone else and their mistakes.
There are many reasons for lockouts and ph issues, some of which are very common and others which are more difficult to troubleshoot. None of which may not be in the growers control.
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
That last bit is just something for you to chew on and think over for a while :hippy:
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Not trying to get on you but if you aren't even checking your ph periodically then you really have no room to judge someone else and their mistakes.
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
That last bit is just something for you to chew on and think over for a while :hippy:
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