were the ones with no drain holes the yellow ones?
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were the ones with no drain holes the yellow ones?
no, they weren't, JG. So, we'll see.
Shov
Shov,
I read over the entire log this time to see your nute program.
I didn't see if your alternating plane water and nuted water.
Reason I ask is when I went to doing this all my problems went away. My therory on this is when using nuted water every watering any nutes left that did not get absorbed by the plant are then added to the next waterings nutes, then even more did not get absorbed and building up over time causing nute lock.
Alternating between feedings gives the plant time to absorb all the nutes.
Also when transplanting the soil with no roots will build up nutes with every watering.
Just an idea for you to ponder, but works for me and I know you have seen my grow.
BOL JG
I don't usually mention frequent watering, though I did recently post my schedule on another thread.
During Veg = Water - Water - Nutes (nutes every third time)
During Bloom = Nutes - Water - Water/Molasses
Thanks,
Shov
I should have known that you knew that. :) I learned from you. Dahhh.
Shov do you happen to have a meter that reads ppms or tds? It's mostly for hydro growing so I don't really expect you to but on the off chance.....
cool grow, ima start in may and expect a early july harvest too :P good luck
Thining back (looking at my notes), I would not have used the 10-30-10 rooting nutes when I transplanted, at least not on all of the plants. Chances are very good that with the flush they will get back to flourishing.
No, no meters here, Weedy. :D
Sho
wow dude, very cool crossbreads there..
I wish you luck! My red hair skunk plants are coming in week 5 flowering now :)
Peace,
Denial
Looking carefully at the photos I have of the grow at 3 weeks and again after the transplant and LST, I can see that all the new growth is on the lower branches. Lots of new growth there. So things aren't going to shabby. It's not any worse than when I FIMed my last crop and they went through a slow period of growth.
The few yellow leaves were a concern but I think the flush should turn the trick. :rasta:
Thank you Denial, did you update your log? I'll have to check it out, man.
Sho
ps StickyIcky your going for an eight week grow? Are you using clones?
Good Luck, Bub!
Plants are growing many little branches now. It appears that I over nourished them as there is a little nute burn on some leaf edges. The flush really seemed to do the trick.
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I'll tie them back again in a couple of days to increase the number of bud sites and keep the overall canopy height manageable.
Shovel
They look real healthy....nice work Shov..:thumbsup:
I tried to get a good photo of all the new "tops", but the pics didn't come out so great. There are more new branches growing than I've ever done before. It's an experiment to use LST and no cropping. The plants are staying very low and super compact. I do plan on removing the lowest branches in another week or two. Last grow I removed the bottom six nodes without any loss of buddage, probably gained bud mass by doing that. Maybe I'll try and get a better pic of one of the plants with lots of branching later on today.
Question. If I did think that I'd like to stretch these plants a little, how would I do this without slowing the growth rate?
Thanks
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Shovelman :thumbsup:
Here is one plant, two views.
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ShOv
I return from Boston for 3 days and I find my 2 week old MH conversion bulb emitting a weak bluish light. Luckily I was still running my 4 foot, four lamp T5HO lamps.
I removed the MH conv. lamp and put the HPS lamp in and it's burning bright. I was thinking that the plants could use a little stretch anyway
The plants are looking wonderful though! Tomorrow I'll give them a drink and tie 'em back down. I had untied them for the weekend because the plant was actually blocking a lot of light from some of the inside branches. I will probably veg for three more weeks (total of eight weeks) before I flip 'em.
Shovelhandle
Bummer about your MH.....plants look quite happy to me.
This morning I watered and foliar fed the plants with B1. I trimmed away a lot of the lower vegetation. I tried to LST the plants and snapped two plants right in half! Oh, NO! Well, no problems I have plenty of plants. I cut the stems, dipped in clone gel, stuck 'em in the post with the remaining plant, sprayed with water and covered with saran wrap. I will see what happens.
Anyway, here is the first preflowers on day 39 of veg.
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This is the plant with the preflowers, it's starting to put out 11 fingers.
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Here's a pic of the grow, before today's LST.
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Shov
They look really bushy and healthy. This is such a good example of a VERY SIMPLE grow technique that WORKS! It's nice to see someone who just floats right through a grow because he is so used to it. We'll all get there someday ;)
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Awe shucks, thanks Stinkyattic.
I'm a dilligent reader and have learned a lot about indoor growing right here on cannabis.com. Still a lot to learn.
As every grow takes four months or more, it would be a long time learning from our own experience without this site.
Broke a few eh Shov? Congrats.......you are now a practised LST'er!! :D
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Broke a few eh Shov? Congrats.......you are now a practised LST'er!!
And a flower to you too, Hon. <G>
Shov
Here's a quick peak at the plants at six weeks.
I have just finished (carefully) moving the tied down branches around and a light water. Still under the HPS, waiting for the replacement MH to arrive. One or two more weeks and I'll flip them to 12-12. I still only have the one plant preflowering the others still have opposite branching. Every day the plants put out new nodes on the main top as well as the side branches.
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Shov
How do you keep them so short?? mine are 24 and 26 inches tall, even after FIM, and still growing a couple of inches per day.
I'll have to get a photo. <G>
These things are thick at the soil line and most of them are shaped "S". I usually FIMed but tried something diff this time. I cut the lowers back a week ago, usually I would let nature run it's course but the lowers never produce jackshyt.
Also, I am used to growing with flourescent lamps, which although not stretchy are not as compact as this. This is Bubblegum, which I have a lot of experience with growing outdoors...and sideways. <G> So, maybe it's just me? lol
Shov
These are my 2 California Indica (Sensimillia) plants... The big one is just starting to try to show sex, the smaller one has not yet. the 2 plants in the clay pots are Arjans Ultra Haze#1(front) and Afghani Hindu Kush (behind)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shovelhandle
The Indica plants have grown over a foot in the last week after FIM.
...from last year's Spring grow. Same genetics as this grow. Plant was FIMed on week 6 photo is from week 7. Notice the "shaggy" topknot.
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Ya, they are squat, but lots of bud sites.
Shov
Silly question...can you FIM the branches too??Quote:
Originally Posted by Shovelhandle
but I don't know if FIMing the branches would result in more bud or not. I haven't intentionally tried that.
Shov
Lookin good shov :thumbsup:
Made some plant soil today
40lb of Hyponex potting soil (straight, no nutes)
40 ponds of composted cow manure
bag of vermiculite
bag of perlite
a little bit of peat moss.
Mixed in a childs wading pool and bagged it up. I transplanted two of the plants that were in smaller containers into 5 gallon pails.
I'm thinking of flipping to 12-12 this weekend, which will be seven weeks of veg. The plants are getting full and I don't have enough room as it is. Photos on Friday.
Shv
Hey Shov are you familiar with a potting soil called Happy Frog? Can you plant seedlings in it?
lol Shov :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shovelhandle
Nope, I remember seeing Shultz, Miracle Grow, Jolly Farmer, and store brands (Ace Hardware, etc.). I've seen the products in the catalogs Fox Farm etc. What's Happy Frog?
I put together my own soil. Usual recipe as I posted. I often add worm castings but I didn't have time to scout those out yesterday.
My well water tests PH 7. My soil runoff is aprox. 6.5 so I think I don't have to add any sweetener (lime). Comments, Please?
ShOv
..and I put seedlings directly into this soil. I've tried the seedling mix. It's really not necessary imo.
Shov
Well, I'm running out of room fast. And almost all of the plants are showing preflowers (all females). So I changed the (4) T-T5s over to 3000K lamps (I'm already running the 400 watt HPS). Timer is reset to 7 am-7pm. I will probably add two 26 watt CFL warm whites for the corners, 42 watters if I can get to wallyworld.
See, it's pretty crowded already. Wish I could share a couple of these bubblegum hybrids with someone.
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Shov
Someone wishes they could share too :( Those are beautiful!
Weedhoud, Happy Frog is fine for seedlings.
Shov, do you make your soil mix in the summer for NEXT year? That's good planning! I always run out in early spring!
Stinky....thanks for frog info. :)
Shov your plants are looking terrific! Looks like it's going to be a REALLY NICE July 4th!
Well, I'm running out of room fast. And almost all of the plants are showing preflowers (all females). So I changed the (4) T-T5s over to 3000K lamps (I'm already running the 400 watt HPS). Timer is reset to 7 am-7pm. I will probably add two 26 watt CFL warm whites for the corners, 42 watters if I can get to wallyworld.
See, it's pretty crowded already. Wish I could share a couple of these bubblegum hybrids with someone.
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Shov
Yeah I really feel terrible for you......too many nice healthy happy plants. You poor bastard you......:wtf: :D
Hey, somethings gotta go right, we're still in the middle of winter here. ;)
Sho