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those are not 'real' leaves, its those coty-whatevertheyrcalled things, BUT the 2 real leaves are already coming outta the center, i see em, maybe tomorow.:thumbsup:
now really tho, as i near deadline, i need some input on basket and resevoir size as stated above, i have choices and concerns.
and how big should i let it grow before we move to the bucket?
ps-got ur email and replied;)
Ok....you can see the first true leaves starting? Excellent! I took your advice and put my latest soil seed under a cfl so I hope it get some damn leaves like yours. :thumbsup:
Can you post a pic of these pots you are talking about? You want your larger outside bucket as large as possible....more water will stay much more stable with your nutes and ph.
ok, here are 2 i have ready, kinda.
sq one is a foot tall, 6qt bucket/pot, all i gotta do is drill zillions of holes.
round one is like 15 in tall, 3 gal basket/pot, already drilled bottom like swiss cheese
either of these i can get about 2 gals in for ressevoir, and water level is a couple inched below bottom of basket.
basket depth on both is bout 7 inches, but, i could shallow it up by cutting them down.
see, i have many options.
how much water resevoir size is good?
how small a basket is too restrictive? or, is it ever a restriction?, roots would growq out and then dangle in the water. good or bad???
again, i know nothing of this water voodoo:wtf::D
Hey Rock,
The Mrs. showed me the nice cloner you made for us.
Tis very nice tyvm! Yes u r talented with your creations made from scratch here.
Lookin forward to cuttin some clones and reporting back on the results.
Yours Always - Da Pup
HE SPEAKS!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MrHound
well, i am honored, a visit by Mr Hound!:D
right on!
glad you like it!
yeah, im kinda handy:thumbsup:
its all about the "stuff" you have available.
I have 'stuff' of all kinds:D
George Carlin did a bit years back about "your 'stuff' and other peoples' 'shit'" it was a riot. if u ever heard it, youll understand.:D
many happy returns!
You could most likely get away with even something like a six inch pot or something.....either one will work for you since you aren't going to be growing trees. My w/f's hold about 2 and 1/2 gals of water to give you an idea....roots hanging in water is fine since you are going to be putting an airstone in your water as well as the drip system. Make sure your holes are big enough to allow good drainage and for the roots to grow through without clogging the holes.
Sounds like your tap water will work for you....disinfect your buckets before you start. You can put her in in a couple days but may not want to run the drip 24/7 until she gets a little bigger (but then you are in hydroton so it's probably fine.)
Once built go ahead and stick your h-ton in and run the system, checking ph frequently and readjusting as necessary. Then change to fresh water with a DROP....and I DO MEAN A DROP.....of superthrive and pop her in.
Just a couple thoughts to add on...if you like I'll try to work out a schedule for you based on your tap water and Flora Nova nutes to go by at a 0.5 conversion. Let me know.
Also what are the temps going to be in your growroom? Your water temps will be pretty close to your room or floor temp and can't be below about 65 degrees (WATER temp) so don't know if you've taken that into consideration because I am remembering something about your insulation..
Damn, Rock-
That WeedHound is a tough taskmaster...
( ducks thrown pie)
Hey, watch out for algae with all that clear plastic.
Banana Cream. :D
Gotta keep an eye on Rock....he gets ideas......this is a scary concept. :D :D ;)
Coach Weedhound-
ok, I can set up with the pot slightly above the resevoir cap if i want?
if so, i can do a 2-2.5 gal resevoir with about 3 inch space above water to bottom of the pot/basket, with a bit (1-2 inch) of basket above the lid.
like the pic. welcome to the rockworkshop:wtf::D
that pot is 7 inches deep with 2" above lid, i can cut down 1 in, make it 1 over and 6 total?
i have a 1/2 drill bit, i can make swiss cheese, i think any bigger is too big for alot of this media.
agree on size?
yes, good call on temps, had issue, got sm space heater, leave it all night, its gotten down to bout 60-65, i can turn up a bit.:thumbsup:
HEY RHIZ!
thanks for stoppin by man, yeah, she talked me into it, so, i will accept her as the task master indeed!
i made a promise to pay closer attention. this is all new for me pal:what:
hey nice call on the clear, but no worries. i have black vinyl spray cans. will coat outside the one that goes into service.:thumbsup:
That should work fine for you....lots of holes....can't have too many holes. Let me dig up an old pic....
Rhizome, the GH Flora Nova....ideas about a nute schedule? I know that Rock's meter and GH are both going off a 0.5 conversion and he'll be using tap water. I've never used it myself and I've heard it's really concentrated but good stuff.
I ended up adding a third row of holes on top of those two and that seems to work about right.
ummm, eehhheeemmmmm.:wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
wasnt that the stuff u recomended>?:wtf:
am i confused or stoned.
In a perfect world, both.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rock.Steady
Lemme take a look @ the FloraNova stuff and ask some folks who're using it- get back to ya tonite.
Rock IS perfect when stoned....:D
Rock old chum I'm sorry but I use the Botanicare series.....the Flora Nova will do you fine so no worries...we just need to work you out a nute schedule and you'll be good to go. Shouldn't be hard since FN is a one part nute (i LOVE those) :) :thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by rhizome
Thanks Rhizome...:)
:stoned::stoned::stoned:
no worries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
for some crazy reason, i had the idea u were setting me up with something u already used or knew.
there is a feeding schedule on the GH site for FN
http://www.generalhydroponics.com/ge...irculating.pdf
this is a schedule for a simple recirc system.
i belive thats part of what mine does(will do), right?
Hey how's your new baby? Does she have true leaves? The future of all depends on whether she does.....
I've found that most companies schedules are too high for real life. I don't think I've ever taken my plants to the top number of the companies suggestions...hint hint.
I would not call your system a recirculating system and neither is mine unless I add a water pump and circulate things that way.
Rock the best rule in hydro is this.....ALWAYS go lower when you are not sure of a problem. Anytime your plant is sick, burned or stressed it will benefit from LESS things rather than MORE....(hint hint :D) Anything looks weird to you....immediately go drop your ppm number by diluting with ph correct water and pull your lights back until you know what's going on. The mistake that most people make is always thinking that more is a better answer than less......especially iin hydro. Remember.....a deficiency can make your plant sick but overnute will kill your plant in a heartbeat.
PS....the other best rule....keep your ph between 5.5-6.2......ALWAYS. ;)
gotcha:thumbsup:
I prolly shoulda bought the hardware kit.
this stupid halo is turnin into a pain in the azz.
is there anything u can think of that im missin?
i may need to take a ride saturday to the dro-shop and would prefer to get all at once.
baby SNL still only tiny lil sprout of a leaf, maybe an inch tall total.
Well from what I saw from your cloner I'm sure you'll build one fine. And yeah.....get some calibration solution for your meter. ;)
If you are interested you could grab some Sweet but that's definitely an extra and you wouldn't be using it for a couple weeks anyway. The only other thing I'd think about if I were you is Cannazyme or some sort of zyme product. Again an extra but a real nice one. If you want to stick with the basics you've pretty much got what you need. Do you have some 3% h202?
whats the zymme for?
cant i get the peroxide at wallys?
Yeah the 3% you can buy anywhere.....but if you buy and use a zyme produt you shouldn't use both so my fault for mentioning both products.....its one or the other (cannazyme is much more expensive than peroxide)
sorry to infringe on this thread...ok...question for the pro's here...kinda need this answer in the next day or 2...im gonna do some good pruning few days before i go into flowering....few fan leaves, some underdeveloped sidebranches, and top a few more....should i do it all at once, or 2 or 3 sessions....whould i do it right before induction of flowering?...same night?...week before?....gimme some ideas guys...
whiskeytango
Stealth i'm going to go answer that q on your thread.
Rock....TRUE LEAVES FOR GOD SAKE???? How's your new job doing? When are you going to transplant?
WH, its been 9 days since i put the bean in the rooter.
i did not do my normal germ-wet paper thing. so, from bean to sprout in 7 days.
there are only lil sprouts of the 1st real leaves, still in the center, barely out yet. i check everyday.
this may be a good thing.
i think better to wait for weekend, ill have time.:cool:
new job is cool, but kickin my butt, early mornings(i hate) and most of day on feet(im used to an office for many yrs) but, its cool. i think itll work out, at least for a while till i figure out if i should stay or look further.;)
Well I have one coming up right now under a cfl and if it doesn't have true leaves pretty quick the rest of the seeds are going into the trash.
I have a BAD feeling about these seeds.....hopefully it's just some SNL x NH paranoia. Usually when I sprout seeds I can see the true leaves right away....this is what is normal to me and these seeds have NOT been acting normally for the most part imo. Hopefully it's NOT an issue due to the reverse.
ummm, no. i will give them a home:wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
ok, this would be day 4 or 5 technically
in the group shot its left side, middle, u can only see top of dome on bubbler.
SHE HAS LEAVES!!!!! She has leaves....she has leaves........:thumbsup::thumbsup:
You have NO IDEA how relieved I am that the seeds are good....the SNL x NH has become my absolute FAVORITE (so far) and I have shared a few with others and I'm VERY happy the seeds are viable.
WHEW!
Thanks Rock. ;)
So when are you going to put her in?
you are too funny!:S2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
i told u they were there, just super tiny.
remember, she has lil to no nutes, just a trace of ST in that bubbler, still no root out the bottom, which is approx same distance down, that she has grown up,,, umm,,, does that make sense:wtf:
i need to get the real halo-hardware. reverse engineering the halo is an exercise in mechanical engineering, that i havent had the patience for.
i cannot get an even dispersion around the halo. its always more at one area or another.
if i get one that i know works, ill have a model to go by.;)
with that said, i will finally be ready to do that move and a major renovation, saturday late into and thru sunday.
i would say, sunday latest, she gets to move in, for real.
how is your sprout?
She's almost upright as well and I'm pretty sure she has real leaves too.....I'm SO HAPPY!! She's number four in the soil in the last month you know. But she's doing very well under her cfl (your suggestion) and I think she'll be the one to grow well in soil and be a good clone mommy. :thumbsup:
Believe me....while I know you can build it....just spend the $15 to buy the drip ring setup.....it's worth every penny. ;)
Oh and she doesn't need a dome Rock; they don't need all that humidity like clones do. How are you watering her btw?
well, its a vented dome, holes drilled in top, doesnt get really humid.
i tried with it off yesterday and it looked wilty, so i popped it back on.
its watering from underneath, thru the bottom of the dixie cup.
its on bubblin the same 18 hrs the lites r on.
i dunno, first time tried like this.
its an experiment, kinda.
im glad urs is coming along also.
and real happy the cfl's seem to help.
i dunno, i think it was u who once said something about 'blinding lil babies w too much lite'. i think sprouts are more sensitive than clones.
for example, see the blue russian thread,,, for a clone update.;)
then think you might have a watering isse.....you shouldn't need any sort of dome for a seedling.
i can try watering it normal, just havent tried yet.
its possible the water doesnt go high enough, or maybe i was just sketchy.
we'll get it changed tomorow, and then i should have the other things ready too,.
You could also go ahead and put her in the setup and just hand water her until you get your drip system set up.....either way is fine.
actually, the hton didnt stabilize yet.
im not sure what im gonna do. i may have to get something else at the dro-shop.:wtf: