UPDATE: Day 14 - End of Week 2
http://www.snapdrive.net/files/47078...2%20022008.jpg
increased saturation to enable more detail, btw, the plants look more nute burned than
they really are but of course my POS camera won't show that
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UPDATE: Day 14 - End of Week 2
http://www.snapdrive.net/files/47078...2%20022008.jpg
increased saturation to enable more detail, btw, the plants look more nute burned than
they really are but of course my POS camera won't show that
it's either the led's aren't giving enough energy for increased vertical growth or the fact
that i have a trifoliate makes it a runt from what i've read
but there's a promise of it being female if it makes it to flower
*sigh* i'm gonna have to grind out the weeks and weeks of waiting for this grow to finish :(
well mas, sorry to say but those pictures are all i ever needed to know about the china panels. Thought i might fix the one i got and try clones (ala CFL) but not now, Hey maybe I could sell it on ebay as a grow light...lol sorry:D:D
2 weeks two sets of leaves about 1' 1/2 tall.:wtf: uhh...hope they hold on for ya.
Db:smokin:
well, it's cool, im gonna deviate from delving deeper into the mysteries of led lights lol
im totally gonna buy the procyon next paycheck or wait for the cree kit
im happy to hear your still going at it. remember even though you did not get what you wanted, we do have some documented evidence of those lights on pot plants. Thats very valuable to all of our research:thumbsup:
Db:smokin:
i could also use it as proof towards the non-efficiency of growing actual plants if i ever want
my money back lol
but i think whatever lights i will be using in the future they'll still prove to be useful since they
run cool and do add more of part of the spectrum plants love nonetheless
what soil are you using? it looks like mulch on top.
Db:smokin:
lol im using coco
im either going to find a hydro store that has t5 lights in my city today or order online
god, it's like no one in my city stocks t5 lights, it's so annoying
epic, i just found a hydro shop with great customer service
the guy was sooo nice lol
in addition to the led's i have added 2 ho t5 bulbs
they're so amazing, they're so bright they go right through my box made of foam board
here's the pic of the inside
http://www.snapdrive.net/files/47078...20con%20T5.JPG
notice how it actually makes the led's look like they're not really on?
grr i just changed my setup again, this is getting complicated
I'm not saying 5mm LED's are great but I was planning on making a 5mm array with drivers and all. It was a 1400 LED panel. Each LED about 6000mcd so a lot of lumens (but not as much compared to high power though). My design would probably have worked pretty well, probably alot better than yours however (not shit talking but I don't think yours is the best 5mm LED panel). I designed the circuit board and everything with a computer program. Ill try to load pics. I can give you files if you want to explore that path. 5mm are VERY cheap so you could have a real kick-ass 5mm panel for about $40.
oh please, be my guest and shit talk these panels all you want, they're just my "supplementary" lights now anyway
and yes, please do send me a copy of the files, i still am interested in led technology but
for now im just tryin to get some stash lol
How do you message on here? can you send attachments? an e-mail will work
hey maspino....now we KNOW about those panels...someone had to test em..(we did to..lol) do your other grows and get a procyon;)...lol
:smokebong:
whiskeytango
keep up the experimentation!!!!
ooh yes, definitely got the procyon in mind
and we totally proved these panels wrong so that's 2 testaments to their inefficiency
im so happy now tht my plant is actually going to get bigger
well at least you have SEEn what the procyon can do so far...lol, i trimmed the plants up...flowering in a weel!!!! pics on thread....
:smokebong:
WT
sweet! i can't wait to see how well it does
OMG! HELP! i just took out the top cup with the plant in it and the roots are growing through
the drainage holes!! what should i do??
they're both white dixie cups so the light just shines through like
it's nothing, and i know roots aren't supposed to see light
tonight i flushed my medium with distilled water and then foliar fed with a weak liquid karma and epsom salt solution
since i was getting burn on the edge of the older leaves
is this nute burn or N deficiency?
http://www.snapdrive.net/files/47078...0224080101.jpg
Wish I could help you Maspino....but not too much knowledge on the subject
thanks anyway physicsnole. it's cool now, i guess after i flushed the coco out the plant regained
its health
Good. Are you still using the 56W (or whatever they are) LED panels??? JW. Would like to see more on your LED experience.
oh, there's nothing more to see about those retarded panels
i just use it as extra blue light along wtih my t5's now
so now it's really 61W worth of led and fluorescent together
I think your plants look to be having great results a foot at 3 weeks is great i have mh, hps, t5ho, all at 400w. i use them all differently and ive noticed different strains perform differntly between them i use t5 generally for my cloens on to mh then finish hps thanks for experimenting ive been wanting to go led ive heard you run nutes of half ppm with led and i run just a lil more than that with my aero so aside from power you could save money on nutes even as a suppliment it looks great:smokin:
SnSstealth,
I'm yet another of the newbie lurkers who joined to watch your thread :D
Sir, I must say, you are a Visionary, a Pioneer, a Scientist, and from reading your posts on the forum I believe a Gentleman as well.
This is absolutely astounding and revolutionary work you are doing, and I applaud you for both taking the plunge on this experiment, and for sharing the data on your results as well. I hope you continue and share data about your final yield.
Of course I didn't pipe in to merely to shower you with gratitude and accolades, I do have some thoughts to contribute to the discussion on LED grow theory.
One of the earlier posters in the thread said something about how you are the first to do an LED grow with "close to half enough lumens" or something like that, in a tongue in cheek sort of way, but I think he was on to something.
There's a lot of stuff out there now being sold as "LED grow lights" that is really just snake oil. Most of the products just don't put out nearly enough lumens. My rough calculations about the Procyon 100's indicate they should be putting out somewhere between 8,000-15,000 lumens each. Your measurement of light intensity of 4000-5000 lumens meshes well that estimate.
I don't mean to insult other posters, especially maspino1, but I think he got ripped off. There's way too many scammers selling junk that just isn't capable of getting the job done.
At the same time, the results you are getting with a light intensity as low as 10,000 lumens is absolutely astonishing. It's comparable to 50,000-100,000+ lumen Metal Halide and Sodium lamps. It's a remarkable vindication of the theory behind LED grow lighting. By which I mean the theory that by using LED's spectral selectivity to produce only those frequencies of light beneficial to plant growth, remarkable power and light efficiencies should be possible.
And you've done it. This is also another example of a tragic casualty of the war on drugs. Cannabis is not a low light crop by any means. What you've done is publication worthy research. Research that would propel high density agriculture ahead by 10 years at least! And It's going to go unacknowledged by prejudice and bigotry.
Again, I applaud and congratulate you on this important work and look forward to hearing more!
WOW! thanks alot
kudos for reading the whole post:thumbsup:(...then posting it in maspino's...lol). j/k
i agree that most LED grow lights are bunk snake oil, stay away from ebay. the research ive seen on the prototype of these lights have shown they can grow tomatoes just fine(i know, i know).
Lumens however are a stumbling block in this endeavor. we believe that the lumen output is higher in the right spectrum due to how lm are measured and the losses of HID energy to heat.
and there are still people telling us we dont have enough blue for veg...lol
I'm pretty sure that some of the 50 or so theyve sold will go to legal researchers that will get the ball rolling.
thanks again,
Db:smokin:
Oh dear!
maspino, I'm sorry for posting my previous post in your thread. I was trying to figure out where my post went and then posted again in SnSstealth's (which is where I meant to in the first place).:confused:
I had a bunch of windows open with threads I was following. I must have hit reply in the wrong one!
it's cool, no heat bro
i gotta agree with you, i was totally ripped off
but it's all good, lesson learned
my plant, frank, is doing better with 2 t5's and 1 led panel now
im trying to find the thread for my other plant lucy, she's doing great
coco, t5 and nutes seem to be doing great for me, she's huge!
glad to hear that mas, hope she gets nice and big for ya:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by maspino1
Db:smokin:
Hey maspino1, i read through your thread, its a bummer those LED's are giving you such a hassle, can't wait until a breakthrough in technology!
You posted earlier about your POS P&S ;]
The camera works fine, its just not designed for macro shots. What you can do to increase clarity is just back up about six inches. The camera is incapable of focusing at that range, notice in almost every shot your plants are out of focus, but the keyboard, etc are in-focus.. this is your minimum focal depth. Unfortunately when you back up your plant will be farther away, but lucky for us there is always cropping ;] Hope this helps!Quote:
Originally Posted by maspino1
hey artisin, please see the second link in my signature for what we believe may be the next breakthrough:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Artisin530x
Db:smokin:
Checking it out now..Quote:
Originally Posted by SnSstealth