Sorry you feel that way, Shark. I won't post in any of your upcoming "what's wrong with my plants?" threads. Take care, bud ;)
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Sorry you feel that way, Shark. I won't post in any of your upcoming "what's wrong with my plants?" threads. Take care, bud ;)
seems to be going well! hope to see more posts and pictures soon:thumbsup::smokin:
Sharkfinz,
Looks like you are well on the way to proving to me that a super micro can be done:)
I am just curious. You have had them under 12/12 from seed? I am nothing near a botinist. But by doing that wouldn't the plant think it is spring? if so then you would have to increase the light period for say a week to 18/6 so the plant thinks it is summer then go back to 12/12 for the plant to think fall is comming to get them to flower. I am not sure at all on this but makes sense to me.
I am sure someone will answer this question.
Again my hats off to you. Good grow so far. And we are all learning.
JG.
Ive never started from 12/12 but I would think that as soon as it is mature (interval nodes) then it would just flower, without a "summer".
Im watching this thread closely just cuz.. well theyre just cute. :) Plus who can resist such a fun experiment?
I am just comparing this to an outdoor plants life cycle. When a plant sprouts in the spring it is usually 12/12 with the sun at that time, then gradually increasing to 18/6 then back down in the fall to 12/12.
Sorry just being my usual anitllitical self.
Hey Jerry,Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Garcia 2007
Under 12/12 they should auto flower when they are mature, at least I hope they will, lol! In fact they should start flowering any time now. I have stopped feeding them N so they can put some effort into being more 'productive' than simply vegging away. :wtf:
I know it's early for a piccy update, though I couldn't resist this evening and had to take one. I re potted the largest at the weekend and LST'd (pushed her horizontal!) as it was getting scorched on the lights. Also the awaited spurt of 'the runts' occurred some time over the last few days and they are also at the top of the bud box, one appears to be root bound so I may have to re pot it tomorrow.
I worked out that they are about 43 days old and so they should be ready by early may.. can't wait to try T44 as I have heard good things about it.
Cheers now stoner's. :hippy:
Thanks man!Quote:
Originally Posted by carinia
Yes, it is a kind of experiment, growing on the cheap haha. :rasta:
The plants look real good & healthy Sharkfinz.....:thumbsup: it's a good thing that you didn't killed them....
Nope.... they just flower when they are ready (or perhaps before they are really ready, hence lower yields)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Garcia 2007
I started some under 12/12, they showed sex after 3 weeks or so and produced really crystally bud after 5 weeks or so, at about 5 inches tall lol... but only a jay's worth...
Your theory does work however. If started on 12/12, seeds will develop great roots much faster.. Then switching to 18/6, they think it is spring and jump into growth.
peace
Cheers zeb. :bowsdown: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by zebulon
OK mel, now I scratching my head!Quote:
Originally Posted by melodious fellow
The oldest plant is 42 days old, so that is exactly six weeks and it/they are still not showing me what sex they are. I am pretty sure there are no light leaks; in any case they are lit during the day so they are dark at night.
How many nodes do they get before being 'mature'? (oldest has 7)
Hmm, this is puzzling me, can anyone hazard a guess?
Sharky - ever so slightly concerned :wtf: :rasta:
Hey Shark do you have any pics of the tops?? Maybe we can see pre-flowers....
Yeah I've got some pics of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by zebulon
But to be honest I'm not sure I can see much, however I may be able to see a cluster of balls forming on the oldest one, others can give their oppinion but if that was a male it would not surprise me, but the other two are just not showing IMO.
Pic 1 Plant 1 etc:
Well in the first pic...you are rite, that looks like a male...but don't kill it, wait a few days to be sure....in the other pix i can't really see the section where the pre-flowers appear...
Hey Jerry! That old thread about you looking for a place to smoke in the rain with an apple got reopened last night and someone said you had not posted since.. I was scratching my head thinking.. I could have swore I was talking to Jerry in some thread the other day... and here it is! yay for stoners, huh?
Finz, genetics can vary greatly... especially if we are growing different strains. What it your strain?Quote:
Originally Posted by sharkfinz
I wouldn't worry about it though. They will eventually show sex, and probably soon.
Your plants are doing extremely well in my opinion for only having 57 watts of CFL at the beginning, not to mention running 12/12. Mine never even got as big as yours are now.
Usually a sign of maturity is alternating nodes. Hopefully soon after you will see glorious white pistils everywhere.
Just remember, 12/12 from seed is an entirely different animal, and one that many are skeptical of. I know you will be patient and diligent and show everyone here that a good harvest is possible even using 12/12 even not dialed in.
I couldn't do it my first 12/12 grow, but the force is strong with this one
keep in touch
peace
Thanks for the detailed reply mel.
Yes the oldest and biggest looks male, I have looked at it under daylight and it's a cluster of balls all right, but I need to free up some space so one needs to go at one point. I will also have a good bet that the other two are fems, they smell stronger also IMO.
Strain is seedsman top skunk 44.
G'day stoners, boys and girls. :rasta:
Sketchy situation is that I am pretty sure I can see tiny little white hairs popping out of some of the buds, they are roughly 1/4 of a MM currently so I guess that puts a twist to the saga. :thumbsup:
..and a very unflattering pic of the bud box today. You can see how cramped it is all getting and the logistics are proving awkward if not kind of fun.
cheers and all have a good 'un.
looks like you have horizontal space, keep LST going during the strech period.
Looking nice! are you switching to flowering soon, or staying in veg for a while for those little seedlings in the pic?
peace
After thinking a few minutes. I think you entering the strech phase.
So fasten your seatbelt's this is going to be a bumppy ride:)
I would continue to LST With string and weights to take full advantage of the horizontal space. You will more than likely have to prune and top during this phase just to keep things under control even though it is not recommended in the flowering phase.
I think if you make it thru the next 3 weeks you are in the clear growth wise.
BOL JG.
I hear ya there!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Garcia 2007
They have been on 12/12 all their life, the little seedlings are habanero chilies, they love the warmth and glow of the bud box too. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by melodious fellow
Hey Jerry,Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Garcia 2007
Yes I was concerned about the spurt in flowering phase. I just wish(!) they would all mature and show me what sex they are, it's crucial due to the issues you have pointed out as I really need to get rid of one. I am trying to hold on to them best as I can.. the one on its side is pretty much root bound, and some of the leaves got a bit burned a few days ago, it needs to be re potted but it can't be as there would not be enough room for the third.. which is also starting to touch the CFLs and Ive got to consider what to do with that also.. LOL it's a juggling act.
Like I said use weights like washers and string and pull those topps away from the lites or just cut them.
The more I think about it all you are doing is creating a flowering bonzi mother. So cutting her at this point may be benificial.
Also your strongest most vigorous growing plants are the one's I would be focusing on as male.
are you gonna have any kind of ventilation or air circulation going on? and are you leaving the front open like that or is it gonna be covered for stealth?
Hello,Quote:
Originally Posted by str8jacket secure
No extractor fans are installed. The box stays at a temperature just above room temp (mid 20 degrees C); it doesn't need one. I would describe the climate as a low tropical one of which the humidity is responsible for. The door is covered for stealth and is only opened occasionally when I check on the plants. :)
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While I'm here I'll just add that the largest plant turned full blown male dom herm, lol, (before you jump on me, it is nothing to do with temp, we could speculate all day ;)) so it was chopped when I had confirmed it. Other two remaining plants are budding up though it is impossible to say what sex they are, all I can say is that these plants have taken such a long time to get to this stage it is ridiculous..
Pic updates soon.
All the best stoners. :)
It's because you need exhaust not just for heat control but for fresh air.
Stinks I believe you are correct, though I had to find out myself (the hard way) or I wouldn't have been satisfied. :rasta: If I grew in a tiny box again, a pc fan would be added to draw the air through to freshen things up.Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
More updates soon stoners, updates soon. :smokin::pimp:
Edit - the hermi was male through and through btw lol, it was a bloke with four pistils at the most, full of balls, pics soon.
The reason you got a hermi was stress from high heat and lack of air exchange. " No extractor fans are installed. The box stays at a temperature just above room temp (mid 20 degrees C); it doesn't need one." That's not the only reason we use extractors.
Go for something beefier than a computer fan next time- a 4" duct booster plus a passive intake would be more appropriate for that size container.
Lose the tinfoil.
And I was amused to see your opinion of p4b's log.
Hello,Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
As has been stated; it is the first time I have grown under artificial light (perhaps I have been slightly naive if you wish to insult!!) though I have managed to sucessfully grow three plants to maturity never the less, and if I were to grow as such in the future I would certainly make changes (I have made a list). :)
Also regarding your accusations that I have had low opinions of other peoples grows (including your own) you may wish to ammend your post which states I have commented on them, as I have not. I have simply evened the numbers out as I see them, as I believe there are equally good efforts to grow artificially that have recieved little recognition, no sour grapes. :)
I'm not trying to insult you; I'm trying to ensure that your next grow does not have the same troubles. Others have given you the same advice in your thread- and your statement is worded in such a way that I fear you aren't going to take it.
Even out? lol okay.
Oh, believe me I am very stubborn and I often learn the hard way through trial and error. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
Also I did 'even the numbers' as I thought more established members were perhaps recieving credit for being simply that, more established. Really, I am nobody to get offended by. :)
Edit - and if you wish to put a minus number by this diary I wouldn't be offended, it is a diary for myself as much as others that might be interested in growing this way.
i smell tension.. of all places too.. cannabis.com
:(
but anyway, i have a 3' x 3' x 1' cab that I am about to start my first grow in. I installed a 6" extractor for exhaust - and I'm only using T5 lights. For intake I just put a 1" pvc elbow near the bottom of my box. Temps stay great and fresh air is constantly flowing through.
Just an idea for ya :thumbsup:
Nah, stinks and I were pretending. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by bombdiggity
Anyway stoners hope all is well. :rasta:
Got some spare so I'll quickly update.
The first plant turned into a male dominant hermi, like I have said full of balls with a few pistols, in fact I only semi chopped this and used it as an experiment plant, though I have finished experimenting and it currently being turned into worm poop. :rasta:
Must say though it was a beautiful plant with very indica'ish leaves:
The second plant was a male full stop. I though this plant would have been fem the way it grew, but alas not, it was chopped. (got very leggy as I let it grow on the window sill for a while to make sure I was correct).
And finally then there was one. Well this I am finding hilarious as it still has not shown me what sex it is! It must be.. I don't know, 60 odd days old and all it wants to do is veg, perhaps it will show me what it is one day. :wtf: :rolleyes:
..and a radom picture of my terrier dog, he's a little shit. :rasta:
Cheers stoners take care. :thumbsup:
might be a hemp plant lol jk sharky, keep that girl (hopefully), going and keep tokin:hippy:
ok... 10 days without a post? i was excited about this grow damn it! seriously, nothing?
What going on I was interested in this grow. I am starting a Micro Grow myself, it is also a stealth grow at the same time. The grow is taking place in my dresser that I have not used in ah lets say four years. So far I have taken everything out on the inside of the dresser, and put some foil in it but. I am not sure if I want the foil where I put it so, with that said I need to do a little bit of work on it. So far the best advice I got from this thread for my soon to be. Weighing my branches I never thought of that, and since I got that idea in my head. The only problem I will face and can not help is having boys. Thank you for this little bit of info, by the way this is one hell of a good read.
Remember,
Peace,Empathy,Love, and good smoke :pimp:
Sharky, What happened....How did things turn out....inquiring minds would like to know...:thumbsup:
D