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i use liquid light or should i say i used liquid light you have to raise the canopy a couple of feet cause if you dont your plants will burn right up i mean its really tricky to get the right amount and move the lights the right heighth.its like if you use a 400 hps your yeild would be like your using a 600wt if your using a 600wt its like 1000 ext.. so ,try it out, imean hey if we never try new things how are we ever going to get anywhere
I am a complete newbie and I don't understand much of what these nutes do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
Can you explain when i would use these and what each one of these do. Sorry to be a pest. Hopefully it would clear somethings up for me and maybe anyone else who had the same question.
-Daniel:rastasmoke:
STINKY!!! HELP!! :eek:
Daniel I must say I am so bad with this kind of thing but I will give it a try. Understand that the way I grow is the way I was taught from a very kindly hydro guy whom I still think walks on water so when he tells me to do something I pretty much do it without asking why. I think that's why I loved teaching cm......he was a good boy who did what he was told. :D
I am only going to list the basics....anyone who wants in depth information on specific nutrients needs to talk to Stinky or rhizome or someone who actually knows.
First here is the website that explains the nutrients and supplements I use. DISCLAIMER: I am not affiliated with these products. They are simply the brand I use.
Botanicare : Products : Product Overview : Nutrients
This iincludes product overviews for the CalMag, Pro Grow, Pro Bloom, Hydroplex, Liquid Karma and Sweet.
But this website has a cool way of waiting until you've written a 3 page post before it swallows the the entire thing forever so I've learned to post in stages.
Dutch Master: FOLIAR TECHNOLOGIES
Here is the website for the Reverse, Penetrator, and Liquid Light which are the foliar sprays I use.
Lastly here is the website for Cannazym
http://www.canna-hydroponics.com/pro..._cannazym.html
Reverse osmosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A quickie on RO water. The Cal Mag is used to replace the mierals etc that are lost in the RO process that the plants need.
Sooo...yes. You get to pay to take those things out of the water, and then pay more to put them back in.
Lastly a quick run through:
RO water: Water with close to nothing in it and usually used in hydroponics to control the exact nutrients and minerals the plants are getting and to assist in controlling the ph of the nutrient solution.
Cal Mag: Supplement to replace lost minerals in your RO or distilled water.
Pro Grow: One part hydroponic nutrient for vegetative growth
Liquid Karma: General supplement for plant health and to assist with ph control.
Sweet: Carbohydrate supplement to increase growth and flowers
Pro Bloom : One part hydroponic nutrient for flowering
Hydroplex: Bloom enhancer or "bud booster"
Reverse: Foliar spray to eliminate to possibility of hermaphrodites appearing and
pollinating the flowers.
Liquid Light: Foliar spray to increase growth.
Penetrator: Additive to foliar sprays to assist with leaf penetration
Cannazym: Added to resevoir to assist and maintain root health.
PS.....you folks are on your own with the 3% hydrogen peroxide.....google it. :D
WOW! Thankyou so much!
-Daniel:rastasmoke:
hey weedhound, not to thread jack or interrupt, but has anyone seen kindprincess around lately?
Hey WH you wrote in week 3 of bloom you use 600ppm of the pro grow did you mean to switch back to pro grow for a week and then back to pro bloom or is the just an error and you ment pro bloom? Only asking cuz I'm a noob :)
Actually you are right and that is a mistake. It should be Pro Bloom.....somebody else mentioned it also. Thanks for reminding me so we can get it straight. :)
thanks weedhound, going to use this as what I'm going to go off of....I'm sure some methods will be tweaked along the way.
Hi Douglas,
I've found that growing in larger buckets allowed for higher ppms in my grows so don't hesitate to try upping your numbers BUT BUT BUT .....watch your plants VERY carefully for their reaction. One of the joys of hydro is being able to change your plants nute needs immediately and either add or take away things right then and there as oppposed to soil growing. This is one of the things I LOVe about hydro. :)
Hi WH, I've decided I'm definitely going to use Botanicare Products (at least the Pro Grow and Bloom), but seeing as I'm doing an LST, all CFL grow, do you still think the other supplements (Liquid Karma, Sweet) will be all that beneficial or is there just not enough potential with the CFL lights?
Also, how much of the nutrients do you think 2 plants will consume from veg to harvest?
Bump
DP, you keep posting individual stuff on stickies- start your own thread!
As for volume of nutes from seed to harvest... no one has answered because there are a lot of variables. What style? What strain? How often do you drain res? Etc etc etc.
Please start your own threads for your own questions, thansk.
Sorry bout that - starting one now where I will answer the questions you posed :jointsmile:
Just dropped seeds from wet towels to rapid rooters.
When should I start using super thrive? After I see some foilage or now at 1/4 dose?
Use ST VERY sparingly......it's strong stuff. 1 drop a gallon is all i use for brand new babies (that's in ph correct RO water of course. ;))
WH, how would you alter your schedule if veg time was cut to 2 weeks?
For RO water, how many stages do you use WH? I see 2 stage and 5 stage and I understand what they do, I know osmosis, but where is the return negligible? Also, on those RO units, how easy are they to hook up? I can do a lot of things and plumbing is not one of them.
Sorry it took me so long to get back to you Biggins....somehow this thread slipped off my subscribed things.
I use a 2 stage filter....made by Spectra and it works just fine for us. We have well water....not true tap and our water is fairly hard but it does the job for us just fine. I change the filters in them once every six months and don't expose the filters to light (algae forms.)
The type I have literally screws on to a garden hose. I'm about as mechanical as a lima bean so that works perfectly for us. :D
Hmm.....good question. I would push up ppms quicker, check my system at LEAST twice a day for ph and nuteburn and watch the plants reaction. Some strains can tolerate (or even LOVE) high numbers of nutes whereas others just curl up and die with the exact same regimen. It's a matter of knowing your strain and/or watching everything like a hawk and changing or fixing things BEFORE they become a huge issue. In hydro things work very fast.......both good and bad so a small problem becomes a BIG problem in almost no time at all. That's why hydro needs more maintenance imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by DasPachy
this information was great, thanks, i will try this, i hope it works as good as your,
FANTASTIC!!!! Liqiud light. I will try to find some at my local hydro shop.
I learned alot on this post.
i really need a dumbed down Extra N00b verson of this write up
Read this on Botanicare's site
Q: Can I use hydrogen peroxide with Pure Blend Pro or Liquid Karma?
A: No, hydrogen peroxide will kill off the beneficial microorganisms present in Pure Blend Pro and Liquid Karma.
I've read that as well but my hydro guy insists he hasn't seen a problem with the botanicare nutes and H202.....just very DEFINITE issues when Cannazym or Rhizotonic are mixed with it. I prefer the Canna line anyway over H202 so don't really use it all any more.
Weedhound,you mentioned you have a two stage filter that screws onto the garden hose.Can you tell me whay brand and model it is please?Thanks,Prospector
Yes, I know its a Spectra II stage and it came with a screw on valve that hooks right up to the garden hose which is good because you aren't supposed to leave it outside in freezing weather.
Prospector its' called a Spectra Pure Eliminator RO system ( ours is 100 gpd) and here's a photo. As you can see there are three lines coming from it.....one for good water, one for bad water and one that screws onto your faucet or garden hose. We paid approx $150 for it but I'm sure you can do better on E-bay. We Hounds don't do ebay....had a bad experience with them and refuse to deal with their issues.
Ps....We start with well water that is approximately 120 ppm but will NOT BUDGE AN INCH on ph which is why we ended up using RO water in the first place......we could not control our hydro ph with standard well water.
We change the filters every six months and protect the filters from light (algae) and that's it. Oh.....and you need place to drain off the "excess" unusable part of the system and a to keep your "good water" in and you should be good to go.
Hey there Weedhound can you elaborate a little more on this answer vs just guessing. Maybe the Brain would know a little more on that. Only being your veg time is a little to long. The formula looks pretty good thats why I want to give it a shot. Thanks in advance GTD:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
quick question thats probably dumb how do you know what you ppm meters conversion is? and when you say 200ppm of cal mag or whatever what do you mean? how much per gallon? sorry kinda retarted questions but i gotta know. since you are using same products as me i want to try and mimic yours as best i can since you do well for yourself!
hydroponics articles - Electrical Conductivity
Hey loco......we don't usually provide outside links but in the case of your question I think it's necessary and the mods can remove it if they see fit. This should answer any questions.....Blue Lab gives good info and makes it easier to understand than some other folks (like me trying to tell you.....:D)
I use my meters at a 700 conversion so make sure you understand WHICH conversion your meter is when you use it.......and that the formula you are following is doing the same with it's instructions.
Did that make sense?
Thanks for the incredible write-up. I just ordered my TDS meter so I should be able to be a little more accurate with my nute schedule.
I was wondering how you added a specific PPM to your solution? I have a 25 gallon reservoir, so I add a set amount in tsp/gal. Would I mix the nute in a separate container to get the PPM before adding to the res?
Thanks for your help, and thanks again for the write-up!
Hi Mr Champ,
Good to hear you are gettng some meters.......sorry that I don't know the answer about your other meter. What brand are you getiing? Make sure you understand the difference between conversion at 500 as opposed to ec conversion at 700 and whichever conversion you are going to be working with.
Yes, I generally mix things up in a seperate bucket, ph everything last, and then add the solution to the regular res. I stick with pretty simple; add some then check the number, then add more. It's much easier than you think to overdo some nutes and ruin your wanted ratios.......I've had to stop and dump an incorrect mixture more than once. :D
Thanks a bunch! I got one for 79.95 on Ebay.Mo betta than tap water,much more stable,etc. Prospector
I am not sure which conversion factor I will be working with. I had to take the cheap route till I can save up for a nicer meter. The one I found on ebay seems to be a knockoff of Hanna called HM Digital. Hopefully, it will be accurate enough to learn about my nutes and get the job done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
Does ppm matter when you are adding Liquid Karma, Sweet and Superthrive? These are the additives I have for this grow (which were purchased based on your schedule). Do you want to keep your ppm range after all nutes and additives are added or only after the nutes are added?
Thanks again!
Please, just get a R.O. unit, and have safe water,period.How long you guys been growing hydro? anyways!Peace and POT!:pimp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
ditto.Quote:
Originally Posted by seesinthedark
Or you can grow the way everyone else seems to think since they seem to have all the answers any way....which Im sure they'll help you payng for too if you can't afford it.
PS I dont at ALL aappreciate the dig seees in the dark dished out follwed by peace and good cheer crap.. One warning: dont do it again. Thank you.