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Yes to the first question, but you might want to veg a tad longer if you want taller growth. They tend to stretch half as much, but yield is still there via the multiple growing tips. (cola's)
As to the second question...if there is adequate leafage to promote photosyntheses and growth, it doesn't matter what shape the branches form. Will end-up shorter, fatter and likely pretty stinky anyway, lol.
good to hear that rusty..ill by trying this method..it make so much sense to recycle the plant...
Nice rusty after looking at a massive range of ideas to 'keep on growing'
cos i cant get another clone and cant afford to buy seeds, so your bonsai method looks to me to be the best idea for me, cos i still get 95% of the crop whilst still being able to regrow.
Mmmm lovely.
Cheers
Thanks again Rusty for the tips.have a power plant re vegging at the moment.followed your advice and after a shakey start its starting to flourish. some of the leaves are a bit fucked up but thats life.
Regarding the weirded-out growth...I believe it's the plant's way of saying "what the f*** was that...?" Normal growth resumes shortly, with proper nutes and light.
Good job. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: (two thumbs up)
cheers man.its re vegging all the way for me now.saves all the bother with clones.:jointsmile:
Curious...how small is that pot? After she's re-established, you'll need to transplant again to avoid a rootbound condition. Is that the true color of the plant, or are the lights yellowing it out a bit?
I let my mom's grow-out a cycle or two, pulling clones off when needed. Keeps her short, otherwise they'd overgrow my veg closet. :thumbsup:
[align=left]its hard to see in the pic but its an 11L pot. the leaves off the previous grow are gone hard(like cardboard) and real dark green....but the new shoots are all a nice fresh green colour.they are sprouting out every where. im gonna have to l.s.t the new shoots after another week or two so it will look a bit messy...but fuck it..ill post some pics as it grows man:)[/align]
Lol...Okey dokey. :thumbsup:
You da best Rusty. A mate of mine kept insisting it was possible to reveg but I was always skeptikal! But I have a bubblegum that is 3 days away from the chop and I didn't get any clones offa her(She is a clone!) and now that I tested some of her bud she's even better than her predesessor, I must have put more care into her grow!
Now that I have read this I have a glimmer of hope she is totally going to be Bonzai'd!!!
Thanks man much appreciated the post! :stoned:
she is coming along nicley rusty... this pic was from last weekthe first weekof flowering:thumbsup: the pot is prob to small but im squeezed for space man.
ill smoke this in your honour:thumbsup:
Sooo Fourkicks...was it worth the effort...? Looks pretty awesome from here. :thumbsup:
And FilthElement: how'd it go with your BubbleGum?
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sure was rusty...
it got a bit messy underneath the canopy, so it needed lots of trimming but im happy enough with my first reveg..
not a massive yeild..maybe 25grammes, but nice smoke
Rusty any chance of getting more pictures of your bonsai? I've always liked them. One question tho do you bonsai them to reveg them only or have you kept one as a bonsai for more decorative purposes?
Sorry, camera is down for the count.
I only re-veg a stable lady of top quality (a known performer) for clones and for outright re-vegging. I never grow cannabis for decorative purposes. Since members of our church stop-by on occation, stealth is still a priority. Cannabis still has a stigma in some circles, and best not to rock the boat too much.
fourkicks: Re-veggers are always messy. (in a gooey sort of way) Keeping 'em a bit longer in veg helps stretch 'em a tad prior to re-flowering. I get nearly the same yields as a first-timer, but definatelly a more stout plant after re-veg. I leave the clean-up (trimming) for harvest day simply because the added stress and recovery time can add a week or two to the whole process. When I used to trim-up early in the re-veg process I saw no increase in yield, so I stopped doing it.
Dang, always thought the root trimming of the bonsai technique was going to kill the plant unless done with surgical precision lol. Gives me hope for the future, now I just need to see if these autoflowering plants will reveg like normal ones...Kudos on the success and may we all be so lucky!
Man this look good. Once you put into flower and take yur buds off, how long before regrowth???
Usually within a week or so you'll start to see fresh vegetative growth.
can you just chop,flush,re veg, in same pot
You would probably get root rot and mess the plant up. Most of the roots would be sitting there not active in the respiration/water transfer process. Plus, new soil/room to grow into is a must.Quote:
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You don't want to leave too many bud sites on your revegged plant because it makes way too many branches. Don't leave too many branches on it or you get nothing but tiny buds like these. This is after removing about 60 (!) branches.
Couldn't have said it better. :thumbsup:
Nice re-veg. Stinky and sticky...?
Oh geez yeah. That little lady produced about half her original weight but it was definitely tastier and great medicine. I love me some Snowcap.Quote:
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I can't imagine what would happen if I hadn't trimmed it like mad.
Does anyone have any superbush reveg pics to share? I will try it sometime just for an experiment.
cool 'll just pop her and chop her and use new soil thanks!
mines called cape-ers = pk X thai it's my buddies strain
oh yeah SNOWCAP IS THE SHE - ITE!
What's the easiest way (safest way) to cut the rootball? What's the best tool and technique? I'm sure that some finesse must be used to make the root trimming successful.
I'm going to be trying it in a day or two...already have the plant trimmed
of all bud and female lookin' parts and the lights back to 18/6. I'm just kinda 'fraid to hack the roots up!
When I harvested my last grow, I left all the small buds and left the lights at 12/12 for a couple more months with no repot and collected about 2/3 as much finished bud at the 2nd cutting...Pretty good bud too!
Anyway... Thanks!!!.....J
For starters, let the soil dry a tad before pulling it out of the pot. Wet soil falls-apart, making this process more difficult and damaging.
I remove rootball from pot, and sit it on the floor. Then I slice straight down through the roots with a sharp knife, keeping in mind the size of the pot it will go into. Four of these cuts, and you'll end-up with a milk-carton (half gallon) shaped rootball when done. Tip it over on it's side, and cut bottom off the rootball so it doesn't stick out too high from it's new home. Add fresh soil around the spaces in the new pot, but don't pack it in too tightly, Flush well, and resume growth nutes. Keep it in this pot for a minimum of two or three weeks till fresh growth starts...then transplant to the next size larger pot. :thumbsup:
(do not let the freshly-cut roots dry-out. This should take you about 1 minute from start to end once you get the hang of it)
Hey Rusty...Just got thru downsizing the rootball...Thanks a whole bunch for your instruction!
I'm gonna start a thread over at grow log and we'll see how it goes...Thanks again!
Just a 'Howdy", Rusty. :)
"Howdy" back at ya, Shovelhandle. :jointsmile:
Ammendment: Rooting hormone promotes roots in unrooted stock. Not necessary to apply to roots that already exist. :thumbsup:Quote:
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:thumbsup: Kinda-sorta ripped right now.
I had a question or a response.
........But I can't remember..................:stoned:
Hey Rusty are ya still around here? I want to bonsai my plants to put them outside and hopfully grow them out there. Think it can be done? I saw a thread some place where a guy re vegged outside and grew a huge bush. I wanna give it a try:thumbsup:
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The sun can be awfully cruel and unforgiving. Might be better to start the process indoors till new growth starts showing. Other than that, I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Hey rusty hows it going Bud?:joint1: I have a PPP that i had from clone I did some lst on it and probally had like 7 or 8 main bud sites. I then put it into flower for about 8-12 days, Then i put it back under veg. It has been about 8-10 days and now its shooting out alot of new sites. Now my question is how many of these new shoots should I remove, an leave on the original sites? as i dont wanna leave to many and lose out on yield. I plan to try and take at least 15-20 cuts off this lady but might still have more shoots then needed. What do you think, and can i pull a decent yield with only 2 more weeks of veg? I got it in a 1 gal. pot right now and plan to go to a 3 gal. bag for flower.
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If you want to keep her as a mom, I wouldn't take more than half of the shoots at a time (stress) with at least a week of recovery time before taking the next group. Any shoot over 4-5 inches long is fair game for the clone dome. (or whatever method you use)
With sativa dominates, I take shoots from the outer perimeter, for indica dom's I take from the center. It's a growth-habit and space-available based removal decision. (whichever fits your needs)
Give mom a couple of weeks healing before returning her to flower, and limit number of times you prematurely pull her out of flower. If she's mature enough to show preflowers, she's old enough to hermie.
Best not to flip them back and forth too often and too quickly.
Any pictures?
Sorry, I dont have a camera at the time. If I can use a buddies I will defiantly get some up. :thumbsup:
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Yeah Rusty thats the plan. I want to get most of the buds off, because they are still growing. I have harvested 3 times on all of my plants, but now the buds are getting smaller, but could be due to root bound plants. So, il take what i can cook, then cut down some branches. I want to leave a few small buds for the branch growth. After everything is cut and re potted, i plan to veg for 2 months, then get them sun friendly. After there used to the sun i think i can plant in a few bags of good soil in the ground and i hoping for the giant bush like iv seen before:rasta:Quote:
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Do u know how and could u let me know how to make a yeast co2 device?havnt figured out how 2 send a direct message, so i had to find ya on here.got 5 iranian autos doing very nice havent used co2 at all unless naturally accuring.all girls sitting at 15 inches.do u have or know the yeast recipe?Also, at this stage do u believe the co2 is a good idea?
I've often thought about CO2, but not enough to make the time/cash investment. I have found it unnecessary, but if you absolutely have to spend time/money, I hear it might help. Use proper precautions if you do go that route. But if you keep fresh air circulating, additional CO2 is unnecessary in a medical garden, in my honest opinion.
Aren't you afraid of raising your "carbon footprint"?
Anyone ever notice that the alarmists in here never mention the evils of a growroom supplimented with CO2, but will get quite anal if you call their carbon-based religion bullshit?
Lmao Rusty, Just curious about something tho, Is it possible to root more than 1 clone in a cup? If you can how many would you limit it to? And if I was gonna take a Reveg plant from a 1gal. pot to a 5 gal. pot how long should i do it before flower? 2 weeks..?:wtf:
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Thanks 4 the info RT.IM now feeling that the need 4 co2 is not strong.IAm new 2 this but so far successful.Ive got 6 Iranian Autoflowers I.S.F. Ive got 4 in veg / pre-flower,and 2 wich are around a week from harvest.The 4 in veg/ pre flower are under a 90 watt U.F.O. L.E.D.and 2 are at 15 inches,and other two sitting at 12.Ive got my other / first ones flowerd budding in an Phototron which is really pumping up the volume ,even though i overtrimmed the poor girls.Ive not trimmed anything off the other4 exept the very lower limbs.Thats why i was in belief of having 2 havs a co2 setup, but im riding with u on my need4 it.Im using fans ,and temp never above 75 or 80.If it aint broke dont fix it.Right?I
know u know what you doing because of all the skill u have posted.When i can lay hands on camera ill let my girls shine.