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That's kind of hard for me to say. I'm used to slightly bigger and more dense buds at that stage, but I've never grown a pure sativa before. In general sativas are less dense and more fluffy. Doesn't mean an inferior smoke by any means. Either way looks like you'll be getting some nice smoke. Just add another 3 or 4 1000W HPS lights and everything will be fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Illusion
I wish i had the dough to afford even a single 400w or 600w light alone. actually i wish i had the money thousand 1000w lights if im going to wish for something
The thing is, I dont understand where the bud is.
Literally, all i see its a ton of hairs in clusters and leaf. I dont see actual "bud"...
I dont get it?
I think that's more common in the all sativa variety. That's one reason they're recommended for outdoor grows - less chance of bud rot since the buds aren't tightly packed. I wouldn't worry much. She has a bit to go and could bulk up a bunch. Or not, don't know for sure. Either way, cannonball a comin.
PS. Perhaps... Tried any bud enhancers?
Illusion, nice grow man, I love recirculating systems, there in my blood lol.
But yeah, bagseed is ok to use but as you can see they are almost always long lanky sativas. Next time order some seeds with a 80/20 indica/sativa ratio and you will have the compressed resin filled buds that put you on your ass. And they are much more forgiving when it come to mistakes. Bag seeds usually make you pay for any screw ups.
Later
Yep, it's always a gamble. Bagseed is commonly thought of as suckie seed, but it doesn't have to be so. If the seed in the bag is from good parents, it will make good offspring. (Usually)
true, but how good could the parents be if it the seed was found in a flattened brick of weed? or can the parents be grown poorly, and still carry good genetics?
Healthy parents are more likely to produce a good healthy seed, but the genetics should be the same whether the parents were trashed or not. If a seed sprouts and grows well, it will usually be every bit as good as the parents. If I was conceived and then my dad got hit by a bus and my mom fell off a cliff, that wouldn't affect my life in a test tube.
I don't know why it took this long, but I did some research on tropical sativas. From the help of wise people, I already suspected this was a tropical sativa, but after reading about them now I'm 100% positive.
Tropical sativas require a max of 500ppm, and not alot of N.
They need a 11/13 or 10/14 light regime to flower properly (or you will just get hairs, no calyx swelling-- exactly what i've been experiencing)
They flower for 15-20 weeks (105-140 days)
They require high humidity during flowering (60-70%), my humidity is exactly that.
Learning this, I purchased kool bloom liquid 0-10-10. Should get rid of my N problems.
drained the res, refilled it with tap and added only kool bloom (1 tsp per gal (50% strength)) making the ppm about 500ppm
Can JUST kool bloom alone be used for nutrients? for a long time?
I also adjusted my light schedule to 10/14.
Oh yeah the buds smell like bubble gum!!
Not the regular kind though, like the bubble gum from the dentist.
Heres some pics, I didn't really think they've been growing until I compared with my last posts...
Tell me what you think! can anyone else tell me anything about tropical sativas?
Oh the last shot is why you don't want to tie string around your stems too tightly. I guess it just grew over the string??
Wow, that's trippy. I will absorb all string into my body.
Thanks for sharing that info. I didn't know that stuff. That explains a lot for you. 140 days? Holy crap, I hope it's worth it. And do you mean 10 or 11 hours of lights on?
PS. I don't know about the kool bloom, sorry. Maybe you should go to their web site.
It is trippy! Its kind of like a tree thats trunk has grown halfway through a fenceQuote:
Originally Posted by Opie Yutts
I hope its worth it the time too, heh. Yea, when i said 10/14 i meant 10 on, 14 off. Seems crazy, but I bet it'll do the trick.
Okay well...
I have a some indica females that can't wait to be flowered, they are getting too big. I figure this plant wouldn't even be "finished" until the new set of girls would be done, since its supposed to flower for 120+ days.
So. I chopped it down, and started to harvest. Smells good, like bubblegum. Tiny trichrome production, slightly sticky I have no idea what it will amount to, these buds are about as small as you can get without being non-existent, but there is a ton of them
Today was day 57 flower, making this plant aprox 4 months old in total
I wish i had enough room to keep this plant flowering, I'm sure it would be worth it if it could flower for another two months
here some pics
heres the plant matter before manicure. I've got a lot of work to do snipping at a million popcorn buds :(
Illusion-Quote:
Originally Posted by Illusion
I know we all share the love here, but in the interest of improvement, that really doesn't look that good. There some stuff in your config that needs to be changed.
What light are you using for flower? How long and what size is your stuff getting to in veg? What nutes are you using?
Even if you get mad and don't want to answer me, on your next grow prune off all your popcorn shit as soon as it appears. Force your plant to concentrate it's energy on much larger buds.
Its because its a tropical sativa. Low feed, max 500ppm, and very poor genetics. I learned this very late in the grow. Believe it or not, I did snip all the lower branches on the plant underneath the screen. Pictures cannot illustrate how massive this plant was. If you look at tropical sativa's about day 60 in flower (search on google) they aren't that much bigger (but mine still can't even compare!).
Its a 250 watt hps by the way, with a lot of flourescent lighting added. Nutrient shelf consists of GH maxigrow, GH maxibloom, liquid karma, superthrive, hydroguard, kool bloom, and cal-mag+
I overdosed her on N, during the beginning stages of flowering which decreased the yield as well, had to buy a 0-10-10 nutrient solution to be able to feed her max 500ppm with mostly P and K and no N
also, i was needing to change my lights to 10 hours on, 14 hours off as needed by the breed, I learned that too late as well
If i was ever going to grow a tropical sativa again, which i'm definitely not :P then i know a little bit more about them and would probably get a little better results, but i am NOT going to wait 120+ days! no way!
If you could think of any way to improve my setup (besides the obvious things like upgrading my 250w) PLEASE! I love to constantly tinker and improve :)
That's too bad all that suckie mojo was happening. It would have been nice to see what she could really do.
Dried in just 72 hours because they are so small
total dried weight = 12 grams