found it! here they are in all their glory, check out my set up is it ready for 6-8 more plants?
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found it! here they are in all their glory, check out my set up is it ready for 6-8 more plants?
Looking good, Nice Growroom.
Looks very nice, your going to get a lot of nice ladies out of that!!
What are you using for odor control?
Your ladies look nice, good job with the transplant also.
Have you got a space for your veg and nursery box? your going to need it in about 2 weeks to start your second grow.
Thanks, the 600wt is kinda more to the back 1/3, think maybe I gotta move it more to the center when I start getting more plants. I really hope these other ones are nice liike they are supposed to be, was told a foot tall, but the guy that actually has them referred to them as small. Is a foot tall, small? Man I really hope they are big and nice and cloneable! Gonna need a way to keeps the smell down real soon, and cheap too.
Don't know how I am gonna make a seperate space, but it's doable, sure don't want to be limited to one grow at a time. The veggin space will be all flourescents for now, and they will have only a foot or so to grow before they gotta go, but I reckon with the lst, thats more than enough to make it to the flowerbox. Hopefully my next batch will be clones and seeds, cheese maybe, or the other ones I ordered were satori, and speed queen all from mandala, I sure hope they make it here ok, but if they don't I will have clones at least, enough to keep me in my pj's anyway.
I just saw something in my last post. I ment 2 weeks into flower not 2 weeks from now. Sorry for any miss understanding.
Ok, glad u cleared it up,I was getting worried, but that still gives me only 3-4 weeks right? Can't wait to see them, I've got room for em! 6+1-3 depending on my og's sex, and 6-9 plants under my 600 wt, mh, becoming a hps come flowerin time should be a happy lil first grow.
A cloan box only needs to be a rubber maid container size space with 1 or 2 cfls. Your veg box needs to be a 50% to larger the sq. ft. of the flower space. Using florecents will enable you to keep the light 2'' higher than than the plant. So however tall you want to veg your plants to 16'' say in 2 gallon buckets 10'' tall, so that's 28'' high is all you need.
I was gonna go with a short, wide 2' x 4' starter space, a foot or two tall, so they will be kept short (under a foot) then put into the flower box, I'm sure it'll be good to go by the time it needs to be. Just a bit concerned as to how much electricity I will be burning with the 600wt, the 4x48" flos, and the 4x2' flos, 2 little fans, 1 big fan..
deaner, what reflective material are you using on your walls?
Deaner,
Have no worry about the electricity it is going to cost around $30.00 a month to run that, and you are well below the limits watt wise.
Tall and lanky, mine look better, but they are all girls and 2-4 go to a friend tommorow. Best one is a J-5, no idea what that means. But now the short one is R2-D2. They are in some kinda lil mesh bag (the roots) can they stay in that? Can they be lst'd? The stalks are hard, no bendy like mine were.
looks great to me. nice and green.
well 2 are gone to a friend they were the tallest straightest, so I got the super J5 one and another bigger clone girl, and 4 small plants that may not amount to shit. The one called r2d2 actually looks quite trainable and since it's still The other 3 of mine look awesome, just bent the tall one over so all my og's are lst'd, I'm just betting boy there though for some reason. The big olddest looks so perfect, needs to be a little greener though. Gonna be an awesome mother plant.. I believe in miracles.
Well everything looks good today, think I will try and not water today. Seeds came in today, heres what I got:
10x satori
10x speed queen
5x feminized cheese
5x original haze x skunk
Don't know what or when I will start some seeds but I sure hope its soon.
Wow you had a fast delivery! You have enough seeds to probably get at best 15 females or more. Nice picks also. Smart thinking with the feminized Cheese. You have enough help here to grow some nice Buds. Keep us posted.:thumbsup:
Deaner,
Lets get these flowering first. Get the experience then we'll go for the gold.
Seen the pics of new plants, looks like it is going to take awhile to get them ready to flower.
How are the original plants coming, are the side shoots starting to grow from the LST?
Plus you mentioned the stems are hard on the others. You can do 2 things, try to LST using string , tie one end to the top of the plant at the first place you have enough space between nodes, gently pull the string down ether tie other end down or place under so it holds the top down, will have the same effect, or you can just top them, may want to experiment so you can see the difference in effects.
what is topping? I kinda want to start flowering but 4 are not ready and the other adopted one need some tls, and I gotta do something about the smell. I'm even smelling it now, and normally I hardly smell anything, ever. Need super cheap super effective exhaust system, ideally set into the sewer vent out the top of the house, but something real quick and effective would be great. One of my little fans died, so I cut a bigger hole through the insulation to get some real cold air flowing in, and hopefully get a decent fan to shoot out that hole, which will be alot better now that its not just going into the insulation, trapped. Man I'm killing some wicked shake on top of my earlier smokage, I'm perfect, how I should have been made to feel, every fuckin minute of my life. But I don't, but it is nice to enjoy life a little extra at times. I feel like doogie howser typing in his journal at the end of the show. I'm so fuckin cool. Light it up, it ain't gonna smoke itself.
topping is cutting off the top, allowing the plant to focus on branching off. I think your best bet is to just let them grow with the Lst and let them do there thing. get us some new pics so we know whats in there.
Left is the overall box
middle is close er version of all of them
right is the 2 biggest originals, the one is exactly what I think it supposed to look like.
No water/nutes today.
Looking real nice, keep doing what your doing. they all are looking real good.;)
So what are some signs that they need water/nutes asap? It looks dry, but it all looks great and I've heard enough times on here not to water everyday, even every third??
You can put your finger into the soil about an inch and if it's dry you could probably use some water. So yeah best way to check it is by doing that. From looking at your last pictures they do look dry. I water every day lil by lil. So the top soil is lightly moist.
The best and fool proof way to check is a moisture meter, second best is the bucket lift, after a good compleat watering ( when water drains out the bottom holes) let them sit for a half hour untill all excess water has drained take note of the bucket weight. Now the plant is watered for at least 4 to 7 days ( this is very dependant on bucket size, time in bucket and size of root growth) somewhere in thoughs days you will notice the bucket weight drop significantly in a 24 hour period that is when the plant has used up almost all the moister and is in need of watering, repeat as above. Another thing to look for is the leaves at the very top where new growth is occuring the leaves will be reaching for the light when they are happy, when the water supply is low they start to lay down to the horizontal position.
Hope this helps.
these are just my original 3, the one on the left being my favorite.
How tall are they, how many shoots, are you still LSTing?
The first one looks almost ready to flower in about a week. The other 2 about 2 weeks more.
Also I don't know if you want to preserve genetics by cloaning but the time to take cuttings is fast approaching. you may want to start ordering supplies for that.
not sure on the cuttings, I have a bunch of seeds now, definately should get some clones on any plant I might want preserved, can I clone anytime now or is there a better time? I also have northern lights, bubblegum, blueberry, and some mystery seeds, I just wish I knew who I ordered them from. Both orders came back fast and perfect. 65 seeds all thanks to the internet. Not sure what I want to try first. I am really wanting to start flowering in two weeks, will the other plants be ok to flower with the originals? Then I could have a second batch sprouting when these start flowering. Get all the unknown bagseed stuff out (unless it's the shit) and just stick to the bought seeds. I know the oldest had a fruity taste and was potent and gentle, and so perfect for the ladies.. so I will clone that one fer sure, just hope it's a girl.
When you clone, you take your cuttings just before you go to 12/12 you need to prune the smaller branches that will not turn into turn into big cola's and will depriving energy from the main cola's. At this point you will not know if it is male or female but you will soon by the mothers in the flower box when sex is known keep the females discard the male cloans. The reason for this is you want to keep the genetics going until you have time to sample the final product. It sucks to grow some bud then smoke it and find out it some of the best you ever had, now it is gone forever because you never took a cutting to keep the genes going.
if you want to make sure your cloning a female clone it in flower,starts a little retarded and slow but soon picks up,i took clones of one plant right after i harvested,i personally preffered the clones from flowering better than those i took in veg because with the flowering clones,all the little callyxes shot out into branches,excellent for training,1 plant filled a screen 19 inches by 13 inches and another ended up 12 inches tall but 3 feet wide in all directions
Atsar,
you are right about the growth of a cloan taken after flowering, I did the same out of inexeperiance with cloaning, my cloans are bushing and doing things like being covered with preflowers and branching way more than starting from seed. My feeling is though that these are not good mother characteristics.
Since Deaner has such a big stock pile of seed I feel it would benificial to take cloans for mothers only, this is so Deaner can find the best plants faster and determine the best qualities of each plant before going into full blown cloaning.
I will admit I am a noob to cloaning and you may be better at answering this. Which cloans make better mother's (before sexing, after sexing, or is there no difference) that can be kept under low light like a mother box and control the growth for long periods till you determine the best plants?
you know what,i really don't know what would make a better mother,i've never kept one,i'm guessing advantages of the flowering clone may include a shorter plant so more light penetration,and for a mother you'd put it in veg so you'd be using clones from a vegging mother so'd have vegging clones hence normal plants,and you'd have more clones due to the excessive branching,but like i say,i'm guessing,just pointing out it can be done during flower,guess it could be worth trying both ways and see what your preference is
1/1 just fed em good, gonna leave em be for the night, hopefully get my veg box set up before friday night. Thinking about making the oldest a mother, but it could be male, and I wont know unless I flower right? So If I get a couple clones, and it does turn out to be female, then the healthiest clone would end up a good mother right? The smoke was so good, and the flavor very nice and pleasing to the primary woman in my life. It sucks to be out of smoke when you got the shit growing in your home. I keep smelling it and wanna smoke but I really need a break, my tolerance is so strong for everything, nothing effects me, from green to brown to white to whatever, I'm too immune to feel anything anymore. I love this new hobby, it brings me as much joy as the smoking of the stuff, I'm so glad I started this and so pissed that there are laws against it, I am a hard (well kinda) working family man, never hurt anyone, but gotta be careful cuz I'M the bad guy. Bullshit laws. Maybe I need to move to Canada.
1/1 just fed em good, gonna leave em be for the night, hopefully get my veg box set up before friday night. Thinking about making the oldest a mother, but it could be male, and I wont know unless I flower right? So If I get a couple clones, and it does turn out to be female, then the healthiest clone would end up a good mother right? The smoke was so good, and the flavor very nice and pleasing to the primary woman in my life. It sucks to be out of smoke when you got the shit growing in your home. I keep smelling it and wanna smoke but I really need a break, my tolerance is so strong for everything, nothing effects me, from green to brown to white to whatever, I'm too immune to feel anything anymore. I love this new hobby, it brings me as much joy as the smoking of the stuff, I'm so glad I started this and so pissed that there are laws against it, I am a hard (well kinda) working family man, never hurt anyone, but gotta be careful cuz I'M the bad guy. Bullshit laws. Maybe I need to move to Canada. I have a freind that wants to buy some seeds, which one should I let go of? I'm thinkin 5 satori, 5 bubblegum, and 5 speed queen? Then I will have 5 satori, 5 speed queen, 5 feminized cheese, 10 blueberry, 5 bubblegum, 10 northern lights, 5 mystery seeds, and 5 haze/skunk. I'm gonna try and sell the 4 clones that are smaller and out of sync with the rest.
Happy New Year Deaner:)
the answer to your first 3 questions is yes. I did some more resurch and you definatly want to take your cloans before flowering. just get them to root and keep them under a cfl or small florecent after rooting so they grow slow and prune them occasionaly so the act like a bonsi tree that way the cloan takes up minimal space and you can keep several over a long period.
As for what strains to keep and get rid of I have no experiance what so ever with them, I did do some reading on strains and there is one pure strain native to your area that you need to keep an eye out for, I would love to get my hands on it as well as you. ( sorry I can't remember exactly the first part of the name let alone spell it, but it begins with m {native amarican name for some fertile valley in Alaska}) thunderfuck. If you here or find someone who can get this for you get it and let me know ( most likely native Amaricans will know about it). It is one of the best pure strains known.
Deaner,
Now I can address your little rant about the laws, I would be thankful you live in Alaska. You have some of the more forgiving mj laws of the country. Where I live the laws are real bad. (Ie. if you have a germinated seed it is concidered a plant that carries felony charge of possesion with intent to distribute and a 1 to 10 year sentence). So if I got caught I would most likely get 5 or more years. Now that is f'ed up. I should be the one moving to Alaska.
Just had a thought, would it be great to just get a place somewhere real nice and just grow mj and live off it, I would have so much freetime to do what ever I wanted, during the early flower cycle there is not much to do except keep them watered and watch them grow.
Matanuska Thunderfuck. The legend. Most the stuff claiming to be isn't. The shits unfuckin real dude. I will always be on the lookout for it, if theres any in the area, I'd smell it. I'm beginning to think the mtf of old is only a legend now.
I want to do the exact thing you mention too. Just grow and chill. Yes our laws are very forgiving I've never heard of anyone doin time for growing, at least no one growing less than 50 plants. They take your stuff, which sucks, bust in your door and scare the shit out the kids, but in the end, they just steal your shit basically. I would like to grow medically and help someone that needs it. If I ever get some MTF I will hit you up, you have helped me a bunch.
Ok, I started my veg box. Just a green rubbermaid container. Mounted 4 2' flourescents on the lid, drilled a hole through the side for the cord. Will maybe put a little fan on the other end. I also have 2 more 2' flo's, maybe mount them on the sides of the tub. It should be tall enough for my babies. It's not huge, but it should do fine for now. Now I'm thinking I can start a new grow to put under the lights when the others are done. This seems to be as good as I can get to running two grows at once. If I lst them, keep em short til they get into the main room. I'm not sure how many I should start in the tub. I want to constantly be putting plants into flower, one comes out, I want another one in. Steady flow of the green magic. Probably start some seeds today, cotton balls in a tupperware tub, add a little water, stick the seeds on top of the cotton balls, then throw em in dirt when they sprout. I leave them sealed and warm but dark. Just cant decide which ones to plant, right now looks like northern lights, and blueberry. 12 should be the right amount for my tub. 4 kinds of 3 each? Or 3 kinds of 4 each. I'm out of weed! Someone always seems to save the day.. Where are they?
Ok, seeds are on their cotton balls. 5 bubblegum, 5 cheese, 5 speed queen.The cheese are feminized. Hopefully have 12 solid sprouts in a couple days. Here goes grow #2, and #1 aint even done yet. I'm turning into a grower! The bubblegum was my wifes request, the cheese I've never smoked, nor the speed queen. I think they all flower at different rates so I will be getting them spread out. Speed queen, then bg, then cheese? I really want to try some ak47 since the name is cool, who wouldnt wanna shell out some hard earned cash for something named ak47? Or god bud would be cool. Thanks to all that have been helping along the way, wish you could share a bowl or 2 of my stuff when it's done.
Oh, and I will get some pics of my ladies soon. They are looking huge! I'm ready for some 12/12, still need an exhaust and a hps bulb so I can switch over after a couple weeks with the MH.
Ok, flower time, please someone give me some pointers here. I got my bloom nutes, Pure Blend Pro Bloom. 1.5-4-5. Got my 600 wt. HPS. Got a timer. Not sure how to time the changes from the old nutes to the new, and when to switch the bulb. I am pretty sure that I leave the MH for 2 weeks before switching. I am gonna tie em down again cuz they keep bustin out. So unless Im told otherwise, I will switch the nutes after a couple days of 12/12, thinking everything in steps, not all at once. I got some cloning gel, and some starter cubes and a humidity starter thing for the clones. I will probably have more plants than I know what to do with.