Ah..... so that is how it is done. :S2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Opie Yutts
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Ah..... so that is how it is done. :S2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Opie Yutts
Pictures!
My girlfriend starts school again today so I have access to the camera again!
I am going to do a complete flush of my system tomorrow and switch the ratio of 50/50 calmag/probloom ratio to 35/65 at a ppm of 1200.
How do they look?
Those look GREAT!! Turned into a forest there.....already got some nice frosting. When you post flowering pics you are supposed to say what day of blooming they are at. SHEESH!!! :D
PS...Great work.....they really look good. :thumbsup:
Well, I flipped the switch on the 6th of December so I would guesstimate that those pictures were taken on the 27th day of flowering :)
I cleaned my bong and it is ripping me up today :stoned:
Thanks for all of your compliments Weedhound, I have been hitting the refresh button for 7 minutes waiting for your approval :D
ok, we'll guestimate approx week 4- week 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmasfca
(stay on top of that, she'll ride ya for forgettin;))
another Weedhound Minion is born:DQuote:
Originally Posted by cmasfca
nice grow, keep up the good work, and rip one for me:thumbsup:
I've never done SCROG cm so that one is all on you....very nice work. It's great helping those who really take the info and run with it as you have because then I really feel that I have passed something worthwhile on. Folks like you and your grows are the reason I like this website. :)
I followed your thai clones in bondage grow and am hoping to be able to replicate the quality some day.
Yes, I just took a fat rip and now I need a lemon drop :thumbsup:
EDIT: Ah, thanks Weedhound :) The SCRoG was much less planned than MVP's screen or Opies, but it has filled in rather nice. I know that my next grow will be much more organized in terms of the screen, because this time I am just focusing on plant health and getting the cycle down. Crop improvements will naturally follow :)
Hey Rock....speaking of scrog.....maybe something for you to think about with your super hps now.....could be good.
Nice plants cm, but I can't believe you had to wait a whole 7 minutes. Was it something you said?
Opie....what thread is your scrog setup under? I want to check it out.
Seven minutes....did you have a reservation sir? God the service here sucks....:D
Haha thanks for the compliments Opie, but waiting 7 minutes wasn't too bad. You see I just turned on automatic refresh every 30 seconds ;)
I have a quick question. Can any of you tell by the pictures posted what stage the trichs are? I am thinking I need to get a pocket microscope from Radio Shack to see the best but is there any indication in the pictures? Does the entire trichome turn milky, or just the head?
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Weedhound
Just foliar fed them some iron last night.
Looking at the pictures, I can't really tell. However I think I see some cloudy and some just turning cloudy. Perhaps there is even a couple turning amber or perhaps it is the amber light. If you could get as close as possible and turn off the HPS maybe we could tell better. Try to get a profile of some triches with a dark background.
The entire trichome turns colors, but if you go too long the stem part turns extremely amber and withers to nothingness.
Here is a picture of a leaf I removed and put on a dark background. Is this better? It is under sunlight is all.
If I were you I would hike over to the Shack and pick up a 30x lighted scope for 10 bucks or so. It looks like some clear, some cloudy, maybe a couple going amber but need magnification to tell for sure...
BTW, check out this link to see what a good balance of triches is... IMHO >>
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Look near the bottom center on max resolution... this is a pic from Markass that he posted a month or two ago.
He's only at day 27!!! I've found that there seems to be two sets of trichs.....an early set that pops out and ripens kind of early and the "main crowd" that really START coming out at about week four and five and hit their stride around week 8-ish. I have to agree with everyone cm, a cheapie radioshack microscope will work fine for you and you'll have fun snipping off a bit here and there and watching the changes occur.
That's a much better picture for seeing trichomes. It's still not great, but I think I'm pretty sure I see a couple amber ones in there. A whole bunch of cloudy and hardly any clear. In my experience it's nearly time to harvest, but it can't be if you are only on day 27. Are you using some crazy-ass hormone to speed up flowering time?
Checked out that photo MVP. Now there's some brown looking amber.
I'm still sure those are the early birds.....the pistils are white as snow. He's got a ways to go.
I've learned NOT to start looking at the trichs until week 5 or so.....you'll see a whole different ballgame with baby/clear trichs starting.
Opie: I am using an Aeroponic setup, but nothing special. 35/65 ratio of calmag to probloom with some hydrogen peroxide every so often along with RO water is all I am giving these girls. I am going to pick up that microscope tomorrow morning and I'll post back with the results.
Weedhound: If tomorrow after I get the microscope and all the trichs are either milky or amber would I start to think about harvest time and preparation? Or should I wait a week or two and see if the trichs continue to develop?
This seems to be an issue of me not being able to give a clear picture to compare trichome color, so I am going to buy the microscope tomorrow and that should help things out.
Thanks a ton guys/gals!
P.S. Some discoloration / yellowing in spots on some leaves is natural in the flowering stage? I have some and it is either that, or I am not changing the res often enough.
What medium are you in? I'd take a VERY small snip daily from the exact same area of the plant and look at the trichs. I'd be willing to bet a LOT that you are going to see a whole bunch of new ones start to pop up. Unlike the early bird ones these will COVER your leaves like mad and trip over each other to compete for space The ABSOLUTE earliest I'd think I'd see cloudy trichs is about Day 45.....and I'm being lenient unless its a strain KNOWN to finish quick like lowryder. ;)
Funny story....ha ha
When I first started growing I asked my hydro guy how long they had to flower before they were ready. His EXACT words to me were...."you can pick them at six weeks but its better to wait until 8." Now.....here is what I heard "They'll be finished at six weeks"
I harvested my first two grows at five to six weeks. I had looked at trichs....they were cloudy and amber so it sure looked done to me. X-Crispi was the one that finally reined me in and made me wait a full eight weeks because mine were ALWAYS finished so early.....ahead of schedule no less.....quicker than even the breeder was saying. And I just couldn't seem to get over approx 2 oz's a plant and couldn't figure out why.
Well....here's why. You are looking at the early trichs.....sort of like the preflowers. I can promise you that by weeks six you will be seeing an entire NEW field of clear baby trichs starting and you will be floored by how many there are.. Once I waited like I was told I actually DID find out what a finished plant looks like......and it includes some red pistils and some bulk to the bud as well.
Trust me......your plants are just getting started. ;)
Who else amongst you checks trichs at three weeks....raise hands please. :D
Spots aren't really supposed to happen at any stage, at least as far as I'm aware. The fan leaves yellowing all over the plant is common as the plant is trying to eat it's last bit of nitrogen and other foods. Basically killing itself to give the young every last bit of hope. But no spots on leaves. Got a picture? Perhaps for the problem section and here?Quote:
Originally Posted by cmasfca
Thanks for the heads up WH. I never saw them develop in stages like that, except for on different parts of the plant. You talked about cutting part off and triches taking over that spot. Have you ever heard of anyone perpetually harvesting that way? I mean always in flower? I read about that a few places a long time ago, but it seems like nobody's heard of it.
I've made every mistake in the......:wtf:
I haven't heard anything such as what you mean.....the closest I can think of is something like a SOG setup. Are you talking about the same plant growing over and over? Cut a piece off and it grows back? Not sure I understand......:confused:
my Thais have eaten yellows for weeks.
its gotten so severe that there and basically ZERO leafs left at all.
just about a dozen sticks with nugs on em.
but the trics are still mostly clear.
(edit) btw- they are in week 13 of flower.
prolly another 3 or 4 weeks.:wtf:
*thinks to self: Thai, yeah, sativa, long flowering cycle. ok got it.
*note to self: do not try to grow Thai anymore, freakin idiot:wtf:
CM, its definately too early.
get the scope. its fun,,,,and addictive, youll be bleary-eyed by the time you take a break from looking.:D
advice- use a lil flashlite to increase the light when scoping;)
You're not an idiot at all. You're learning from your own experience, the best way.
Just hope that it finishes so outrageous that it's all worth your while. Keep up ;your good work.
Shov
thanks Shov, i kinda set myself up for this by trying to clone my first grow,,,,and got "lucky" enuf that it worked. so i kinda forced myself to grow this twice before i knew it would take this long.
i started Betty end of last april, chopped in oct-nov, and the trichs werent ready. now the clones have been around roughly since july i guess? we're talkin 9-10 months lookin at the same 2 grows, thats just insane.:wtf:
i am really lookin forward to the Russians and beyond. at one point i wanted to save the old thai strain, but,,,i highly doubt ill intentionally invest this much time in another grow.
i'll pop up a pic later of the leafless sticks on the clone thread;)
ok, rant/whine button "OFF":D
CM, sorry for the mini-hyjack, keep up the good work.:D
No worries man, I now know to not grow crazy thai sativas unless I have extra space where I could grow something else at the same time :D
Definitely the big flaw in sativas.....alllllll that waiting and they aren't known for terrific yields.
cm...on my Master Kush thread I asked a good friend to post a pic of trichomes for you to check out....so do if you have the chance. ;)
I just saved the picture to my computer :)
Thank you :)
So I got my microscope today!
Now I need a better flashlight haha
I flushed my res and put 15 gallons of RO water at 1200 ppm with a probloom/calmag ratio of 65/35 so that would be 780/420
How do they look? I know I need more light, sorry lol
Overall it looks like they are just starting to get cloudy, which makes much more sense for the time frame.
I mean leave a plant in flower for a year or two, and constantly be harvesting. I know people have done this, I read about it years ago, but I can't find anyone lately who's ever heard of it. I don't want to hijack the thread, so perhaps I can find out something more about it and start a different thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
I am going to take a couple more leaves off tomorrow and inspect them for the beginnings of clouding. Gnight!
It is SO funny to watch the progression. Rock went NUTS with his little microscope and so did I when I first got it.
At 8 weeks you will see at LEAST double the trichs on those babies. I know you said so before but what strain are those again cm?
I have two Atomic Haze which is a F1 cross of Atomic NL and Haze.
The other six are Arctic sun which is a F1 cross of Whitewidow and Skunk #1.
Do you have tips for getting better lighting? I'm thinking of using my high output t9 flouro or whatever haha
Lighting....what have you got going now and what is the size of your space? For some reason I had the idea you had the max lighting going for your grow space already.
I meant for taking pictures with my microscope silly! 400w HPS is plenty for my 4ft x 2ft grow atm haha :D
LOL! That one never occured to me. Rock probably would know that....i'm no techno brain. :D
*chiming in*
i use a lil mini maglite;)
i find it works even better if u unscrew the lens and use it with just the bare bulb up close to the scope and 'subject':thumbsup:
i steady the light on an old zippo lighter to get above the subject.
and put something to keep the lite from rolling away.
but goof around, u'll find what works best for u:thumbsup:
prepare to be bleary eyed.:D
and im impressed!
i got NO CLUE how u were able to take a pic with the scope!:jawdropper:
lol a pair of steady hands holding the camera lens to the microscope lens; it's kinda hard lol but I'm going to try again today.
Just need to find enough for one last bowl so my hands will be steady :P
Any tips for quick drying weed? In the microwave? Do you think I could try some of the popcorn buds i purposely left below the canopy? or will these not very many clear trichs not get me high yet?
Thanks!