Do you think we'll experience 100% LEGAL WEED in our lifetime?

I live in Canada so I could definitely see it happening here within even 20 years. The Senate has already said a few years ago that it should be legalized and regulated.

But one thing I'm very afraid of is the insane amount of tax the Canadian and Provincial governments would place on it. For example, in my province 15 beer is 30 dollars or more, while a pack of smokes is 13 dollars, a lot of that expense is tax. The price of weed here is already low, with all the economists thinking that it actually sells here for 10 bucks a gram they see it as a way to make money. Which is why I'm actually in favour of it staying the way it is, not like the cops here are that hard on weed (atleast in Western Canada, not sure about the East), and keeping the government out of it (as if they don't tax us enough)!

in my great state of kentucky we have tax stamps!
$3.50 for 1 gram
$100 for 1 ounce
$1000 for 1 plant
$250 for a hemp growing liscence

i pay my taxes and i got caught with the government stamped jars of pot, the judge looked at the jar and looked at me, he said "allow me to go into rescess so i can check a few laws." i waited in the court room for about 5 minutes when the judge walked back out, he looked at me and said come get your jar:D, and sign this paper." i read it over it was a agreement to continue payment of my taxes, and that if i was ever back in here again on drug charges i would be heavly fined.
i was free to go because he said i was a honest tax paying citizen trying to follow the law as close as possible.:D
he had never seen a tax stamp before. :D
the judge handed me my jar still loaded! i asked him if i was free to leave with this jar he said i gave it to you didn't I? i said "yes" he informed the guards to leave me alone and let him go.
this was all because i followed a law almost nobody knows about!
hope this helps someone :thumbsup:
P.S. if you purchase stamps take a empty jar or baggy. then either get them placed on them or keep them and place them on you belongings that contain cannabis. and the tax stamps are sealed records nobody can touch them.

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Originally Posted by marijuanavillebilly

in my great state of kentucky we have tax stamps!
$3.50 for 1 gram
$100 for 1 ounce
$1000 for 1 plant
$250 for a hemp growing liscence

i pay my taxes and i got caught with the government stamped jars of pot, the judge looked at the jar and looked at me, he said "allow me to go into rescess so i can check a few laws." i waited in the court room for about 5 minutes when the judge walked back out, he looked at me and said come get your jar:D, and sign this paper." i read it over it was a agreement to continue payment of my taxes, and that if i was ever back in here again on drug charges i would be heavly fined.
i was free to go because he said i was a honest tax paying citizen trying to follow the law as close as possible.:D
he had never seen a tax stamp before. :D
the judge handed me my jar still loaded! i asked him if i was free to leave with this jar he said i gave it to you didn't I? i said "yes" he informed the guards to leave me alone and let him go.
this was all because i followed a law almost nobody knows about!
hope this helps someone :thumbsup:
P.S. if you purchase stamps take a empty jar or baggy. then either get them placed on them or keep them and place them on you belongings that contain cannabis. and the tax stamps are sealed records nobody can touch them.

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so your saying that if you live in ken. and you pay that tax, you can legally have your pot?? how the hell does that work??

im must admit that im a angry person most of the time and pot does calm me down but i need alot or some top shelf stuff to put me in my box ,if im drinking or on the meth look the fuck out, buy the way iv stopped using meth too many broken fingers from smashing and only have 1 or 2 drinks at a time these days .

no no no!
the judge was like WTF is this.
and scence it was lagit and he had never seen it before he let me go.
but it was just pure luck, i dont recomend sparkin one up infront of you P.D. here, cops act like weed is anthrax.

Wouldn't it be the greatest feeling in the world if one day we just woke up and Marijuana was decriminalized? I mean, obviously it's not going to happen..but just imagine. Pure joy.

Canada's looking strong these days. A lot stronger than the U.S. They'll have it decriminalized way before us, that's for sure.

In our lifetime...man, I just don't know. It's just too difficult to tell. It's a huge maybe, leaning slightly more towards 'no'. Oh, how I can wish though.

Nope

I believe Pot will be legal in my 5 year old grandsons, lifetime


there will be wose things to deal with, like no air, for breathing!

growing veg,... etc

I have to say alot of you are really really lame for just saying no.

Especially if your pretty old, great job contributing to the decrim/legal movement. Thats exactly the fucking problem, you all act like you would want something done but dont do jack shit. Well I wasnt born that long ago and I plan to actually try as much as i can to change stuff.
You guys act like you want them to win, look at how politicians cant hide from lies as much anymore, everything media is too integrated with the internet.

What happened to the sixties movement, oh weed and lsd was easy to get so everyone just said fuck it. well the mainstream america is slowly evolving and old people are dying. Lets stop this stupid fucking attitude of just agreeing with this bullshit.

skip the fandangoIm turning cartwheels

what are you doing to contribute to legalizeing it?

hmmmm


Im not chaining myself to the pole if no one else does

if EVERYONE would 'come out' well just maybe !

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Originally Posted by expandingeye

I have to say alot of you are really really lame for just saying no.

Especially if your pretty old, great job contributing to the decrim/legal movement. Thats exactly the fucking problem, you all act like you would want something done but dont do jack shit. Well I wasnt born that long ago and I plan to actually try as much as i can to change stuff.
You guys act like you want them to win, look at how politicians cant hide from lies as much anymore, everything media is too integrated with the internet.

What happened to the sixties movement, oh weed and lsd was easy to get so everyone just said fuck it. well the mainstream america is slowly evolving and old people are dying. Lets stop this stupid fucking attitude of just agreeing with this bullshit.

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How do you plan to do this? There are people fighting it, most go about it in the wrong way. Ever been to a legalization rally? Even as a fellow toker, I had a hard time taking it seriously.

The real fight is in the court rooms. In labs conducting studies capturing the positives of marijuana. Lobbyists in the government. Venturists dedicated to the movement raising the necessary capital to fight this war. Sociologists conducting studies to study the effects of prohibition of marijuana. Economicists arguing the benefits of legalization. Much of the marijuana movement is focused on making money off the target market (us) rather than actually fighting for legalization.

One of the things that the mainstream of this movement hurts more than helps. The myth perpetuated that the government is evil just because marijuana is illegal is ridiculous. That image is what hurts the legalization the most. Rather than attacking the government, the focus should be on the benefits. This perception must be broken in order for the movement to be taken seriously.

In order to do something about it, you got to be smart, and get as well educated as you can. That's what the marijuana movement needs. Hippies chanting "LEGALIZE IT" and smoke a blunt are of abundance. Educated and well-funded people fighting this war is scarce. We got to stop dreaming. People got to start planning and taking real action to change laws, and public perception about marijuana. If you truly want to legalize it, you have be serious in the right way, not the wrong way.

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Originally Posted by Sir Bliss

Canada's looking strong these days. A lot stronger than the U.S. They'll have it decriminalized way before us, that's for sure.

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It was almost decriminalized back on 03, but it wasn't brought up again because of strong pressure from the American gov't. :mad:

i sure hope it does i would love to be able to smoke in peace :jointsmile:

that would be so nice if it was legal like that i need some canna non filters please lmao the government would tax the shit out of it raise the prices and probally even lower the thc content as well if that ever happened i can see alot of potheads quitting cause the fun of smoking is the risk of getting caught just like alchohol i loved drinking at 15 i hit 21 and drinking sux now

100% Decriminalization is what everyone should be pushing for. The government loves to have the debate in the air over medical marijuana because it is easier to debate that and distract people from the more important issue of civil liberty. They cannot win that debate and do not want to have it.
And again,
Nope, not going to happen.

I think there are more important issues around then whether weed will be legal and as such, no I do not see weed being anywhere near legal in the near future. Sorry, but that's just what I feel.

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Originally Posted by GanjaMan7

Prices would actually drop dramatically. Marijuana is one of the most versatile plants on the planet. It is extremely easy to cultivate. Many places in South American where marijuana laws are slack or ignored, weed can go for a few bucks per pound. One con of legalization would be that the government would ban the cultivation of marijuana by citizens, in order to make a profit. They did this with tobacco too. But hey, that would still be much better than the insane laws we have in place now.

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What about home brewing beer? I am allowed to produce 250 gallons of Finished beer in america, free of taxes and the like as long as i dont sell it to anyone. If i hand it out, that is ok, but i cant make any money off the deal.

Oh yeah, and it is able to be done by anyone (with the right equipment aka... Home GROWING).

Im going to say yes, so that i can win the bet :thumbsup: :cool:

It wasnt too long ago that the liberal party in canada almost decriminalized marijuana what happened the american political goons threatened to close the border until the american elite change there stance it will never happen

Vote for Ron Paul and you will. That means get up and make it happen!

Not only that, but among many other great things, he will release all non-violent offenders from prison! That means someone you know could get out of prison because YOU voted for Ron Paul.

He is a great man. I advise you look into him.

By voting for RON PAUL, you vote to de-criminalize if not legalize MJ and release all non violent offenders from fuck me in the ass prison.

Also might add........if anyone else besides Ron Paul is elected, we'll all be in prison for just writing these posts in here!

Join the Revolution! :hippy:

Ron Paul - Only candidate I don't think is a complete douche. If you haven't heard of him or aren't planning to help him in any way please go to Ron Paul 2008 — Hope for America just once!

Canada - Haha the U.S. knows the kind of trouble there would be if pot was o.k. in Canada. I mean, imagine how many Americans would all of a sudden be going to Canada. I'd probably move... or at least move up north where i could go to Canada every day or something. Plus all the smuggling which is even going on now. There would be probably be a lot more smuggling problems for U.S. if it was legal/decrim in Canada. Prob why U.S. pressured Can. or w.e. I hope Canada does it soon ! :rastasmoke:

Oh yea people were saying big companies and shit would take over and we wouldn't have the variation we have now and etc etc I always thought that if weed was legalized then everyone would just go crazy and that free market shit would kick in. I mean look at all the diff kinds of cigs you can buy. Think of all the diff. genetics and things that could be discovered if weed was acceptable in the first place. We would have scientists figuring that plant out all day. That's how I imagined it anyway

Economics - I had an economics prof. who used to talk about pot a lot. He said it would be better for the government to have it where they could tax and regulate it. Makes sense to me. My worry is if they make it where they have control you know the gov. will be doing some sort of shady shit to fuck with us and make that dollar. Imagine how much money could be diverted from the war on drugs (marijuana part) and used for some real shit like schools or something. What if we had Iraq war money too? Damn that'd be a lot right?

Anyway, just some thoughts I had after reading all the posts. I know it will happen in my lifetime! Be positive people, hasn't weed taught you anything? :hippy:

We can only dream...I honostly believe it will never be 100% legal...reason being MONEY!!! What would the people who depend on busting the MJ smokers and growers do for a job?? How many pot smokers who get caught end up on probation and have to pay some kind of fine then probation,piss test,and everyother thing they can come up with. Just follow the money.

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Originally Posted by Innominate

If you want 100% legalized cannabis, we can all create our own country.

Call it, "Cannaba." :rastasmoke:

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I have seriously thought of that before, if someone created a country 1000 years ago and just decided to worship pot...and everyone in that country was a stoner

LLamapunch....is that anything like a donkey punch? My question to you is why did Ron Paul do so bad in his home state? Before you get on you soap box let me tell you I too am a Paul supporter and I'm totally dissappointed with the big news stations. We the people had the prime opportunity to get our country back from the neo-cons and idiot liberals. But what happened....they believe and trust in the box, people are afraid to do their own research into the "canidates". But why such a bad showing in Texas?

I've always thought this. Glad to hear someone thinking the same thing because it's TRUE. It depends who you are in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Dream of the iris

That doesn't make any damn sense. What about the criminals in ghettos? They smoke weed everyday, but go out and rob and kill people! I know that's a overstatement, but it's proof that the calming effects of weed is a personal thing. If you are a violent person to begin with, you will still be violent high.

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Well it's come a long way in the 35 years I've been toking..

For example, 30 years ago there's no way they would let a guy like Willie run around smoking pot across the country, they would have made sure to bust him hard and make an example.. The DEA knows they could bust him any time at all, why don't they? They don't want the backlash, and publicity.

They know they are playing a losing game.

We need to get practical though. We should gain strong allies like turning on the tobacco industry to the goldmine that could open up for them and get their heavy duty lobbyists on our side.

We should lobby folks like Micheal Moore who have drawing power to get people to watch his films, to make a film like F911 on the lunacy, lies and deception the government is putting on us about pot and get the public educated, and enraged if possible at the taxes they are being forced to pay for this prohibition and prisons bursting at the seams.