i'm pretty sure
in Utah if you're pulled over for speeding
they can search you...
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i'm pretty sure
in Utah if you're pulled over for speeding
they can search you...
Did anyone notice, unless Im wrong, that at around 35 minutes when the 2 officers were in the ladies house, they arrested here and walked out of the room....leaving the weed on the fucking dresser!!
That shit made me laugh. :D
Here's another point of interest not stated. HAVE YOUR DRIVERS LICENSE ALWAYS. Although you may not think it, cops in most states have the right to arrest you On The Spot for not having a license. I mean immediately step out of the car, no questions, handcuffed, your car is then searched, whether or not you consent. If they find a pipe, they'll call it warm whether or not it was and you bet your Ass your going to jail for a DUI, no field sobriety tests or anything. Simple as that, they do what they want and make up reasons for it. Also, NEVER ADMIT TO ANYTHING, you may think it will just piss the cop off, and if you admit yeah man I was tokin he may just let you off, HA! They have microphones for a reason, assume the cop is Not going to cut you a break. Like the adam and whatshisface video linked, assume the cops cannot relate at all to being human. If your car smells and you have to crack the window and the cop asks you why... well your windows broken. He wont figure out that its not if you have your license, dont consent, play it cool. I disagree with the cigarette part, light that sunabitch as soon as he pulls behind you. You can say your a chain smoker, it may keep him from smelling the stuff in the first place, and if he smells something it will give you a point to argue in court. No sir your honor, not pot, just clove cigarettes.
This is MMj's problem most ppl have the same attitude they allQuote:
Originally Posted by Dream of the iris
just wanna grow it,smoke it; but not stand up and fight for it!!
If everyone who smoke's cannibis would get out of there closet's
and stand up !!Fight!!and tell the U.S government to make it legal!!
anybody have a estimate of the number of patients in the U.S.A
millions:wtf:
The biggest problem people have is their defensive from the start with cops. If you treat them with respect, straight forward answers and look them right them in the eye, let them know you know they have authority, they will generally let you go. I got pulled over in the middle of a deal, I had an ounce under the seat; cop comes up, ask what I'm doing, I said just driving around, than asks if I have been smoking any dope. Said no once again with a giggle to make it seem like absolutley not, and he let me go.
I'm a pretty old fart now, smoked for 35 years, and have learned a few things.
You don't challenge a cops authority unless your ready for some pain and a long hard fight. He's able to do about anything he wants, and all you can do is hope to make it up later, with lawyers and a lot of expense.
Best is to keep your shit together. Current pates, current inspection, insurance, ALL your lights working etc.
It's well known cops expect and look for drugs etc. from someone who drives with expired shit and non working lights etc. If ya don't believe me ask one some time.
Keep cool with the cops, keep the attitude he's just doing his job and know it's always easier for him to let you go than to bust you, and most cops are looking for a reason to let you go if you give it to them, not all but most.
Act the fool, buck up and get in their face, and it turns into looking for a reason to bust you down every time.
I've been caught with an oz of pot several times, never been busted yet. Was caught with a dozen small plants, no bust. The cops either dumped it out or took it, and let me go on my way. I've also seen guys take beatings Rodney King never even dreamed about and everything in between.
I was let go because I always show respect, let em know I know they have the authority, and they are just doing their job, and I'm a decent guy that doesn't need to be taught a lesson.
They WILL get a dog to search your car if ya don't let them most of the time, they will bust you if they have to do that.
Or just don't carry more than you can swallow.. :)
glad to know you don't care that you have rights :thumbsup: Unfortunately, I have many more years ahead of me, and I'll be damned if I'm going to allow them to step all over my rights, sure we live in a police state, but they're not going to do anything they want to me just because they 'can.' they damn sure will get a fight from me, I'm fully aware of my rights and I will enjoy asserting them. I'm not afraid of their badge, unlike you.Quote:
Originally Posted by netdog
If your shit smells thats probable cause. If there is no odor and driver "appears" ok capsule of vehicle is easier for them to search. Cases get droped with dog hits. My friend just beat one. We watched the search on DVD from the police car. The dog hit smells on his trunk but the search took to long they were fishing for a bust. Case thrown out $16,000 was voucherd and he had to call the cop on a Friday to P/U the $$$. Which he did Friday afternoon same COP blew his fucking brains out in the precent. The evidence room and Vocher room had to be gone through the COP was taking the shit. When he called for the $$$ the Cop knew he was caught so he killed himself..:thumbsup:
Yes they will do what they want because they can.. Go ask Rodney King about that... Some are just looking for you to give them an excuse, but not most.Quote:
Originally Posted by Markass
I care that I have rights, but I don't have the right to carry weed, and the cop has rights too, to haul me in to jail if I am carrying, to search me and my car if has probable cause, and to beat me down if I resist. Those are his rights.
Carrying weed makes me a criminal. I don't have a lot of rights in that situation.
Keep that car clean, up to date and all the lights working, and if cops gets ya anyway be friendly and respectful and play the game... It works our better.
Now if I'm NOT carrying, than it's a different matter, but bucking up to cop instead of treating them like anyone else doing their job is just stupid. They don't mess with you unless your doing something stupid in the first place, and bucking up just makes it worse.
Don't freak out, dont bitch, exploit the situation if you can, dont if you cant, keep a clear mind and try to understand the situation.
I didn't actually watch the video as it doesnt seem to work for me, watched the adam and joe one posted later though. I've spent ages sitting reading every post in this thread and the information and views given here are amazing.
I don't drive so I don't have much to add here and only ever have had a few encounters with the law. None of these are weed related but hopefully something can be learnt.
Driving Encounter
Police were at the edge of a small town, it was at night. My friend was driving with no seatbelt on. My friend refused to pullover, said something like his doctor told him not to wear the seatbelt, refused everything. So my friend said if he wasnt under arrest was he was free to go and basically drove off. Im pretty sure there was a no seatbelt related court case as he refused the on the spot fine. The cop was absoultely dumb struck by the way my friend acted and really didnt know what to say...oh...by the way my friend used to be a cop but now he has settled firmly on the wrong side of the law.
Through the eye of a pig
Heres some piggy stories just to let you know how the law operates around here...at least used to.
Piggy has told me many stories of how he has had to stand by and watch fellow officers beating the shit out of people. From what I gather the cops would either take you back to the station and fuck you up or do it out of the publics view.
But sure the superior officers would do something? Yeah it would usually be them deliverin the beatin.
*note to self - ask about cop stories to do with weed*
Right ive said enough, as usual im vastly goin off topic, "the vid was great and very useful, ill fuck with all the pigs now, thanks"
Hopefully you guys and ladys can take something from this post, please do..ive spent way too long in this thread
ps : ramble on about human rights all you want, but weigh up everything in the situation, dont rely on one thing to carry your ass through
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roll with the punches!!
Its never a good idea to go fuck with cops.
stay under the radar
I think you're reading it wrong. If I were arrested for pot, I'd want the conversations I'd have with police to be taped. I can think of few things scarier than me being in court with only my word vs policemens' word... and you know there'd be more than one policemen against you.Quote:
Originally Posted by 50centsaday
Obama supports cannabis decriminalization, but now that he's taking down Hillarytron and has a chance of winning he's toned it down and actively supports medical cannabis alone. None of the candidates that might actually get elected will be better than that. And frankly, even acceptance of medical cannabis is a shit ton better than what we've got now. Baby steps is the way to win.
I know he's not Ron Paul, but RP didn't have a chance of being elected. Just saying the truth we all know... for whatever reason, it wasn't gonna happen, now or ever. Realistically speaking, Obama's the next best choice.
I'm a chemical engineer. I can say that if you wrap pot in plenty of zip lock bags, the mass diffusion rate of pot through the bags will be too low for anyone to smell it. You might want to consider putting wrapped pot inside a bag full of water or something, and maybe freezing it too... never tried that though, but I'm pretty sure it'll work. Chemistry is fun!
The better choice here would be to leave it at home, or take a tiny bit you can swallow... like other people said. I really liked the video though, but I doubt a cop will take kindly to anyone asserting their rights.
Saying you don't want to be searched doesn't give them just cause to search you...Quote:
Originally Posted by netdog
and lol@ saying you would not like to be searched without probable cause is bucking up to a cop:wtf:...no wonder pot's still fucking illegal in this country...I'd rather respect the forefathers of my country by respecting their willingness to give us protection.
you're not a criminal by wanting to assert your rights by any means whatsoever. I will NEVER IN MY LIFE consent to a search without probable cause(so long as I'm in America and protected by the bill of rights)
Fuck that shit. Just because we're only free to do what they tells us we're free to do doesn't mean that the constitution doesn't mean shit. It's innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent...WAY WAY too many of you have that ass backwards.
And for the record again, asserting your rights does not give them probable cause either. You may think it does for some reason, but it doesn't.
The reason we live in a police state is because of people like you who give the cops the right. I don't care if I have pot or not, but if I do have pot that gives me that much more of a reason to assert my rights. Why? Because I've been to jail, and it was because I was unaware and he told me that if I honest he could make it easier on me, boy was that a fucking lie. Six months probation and some fines later...I'd rather make it clear he doesn't have probable cause then once I go to court it will be made clear he violated my rights, if he chooses to do so.
Of course it doesn't. An he might even just let you drive off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Markass
But all he has to do is say he smelled pot, he's got probable cause.
Or call out a K-9 unit, have it alert on command on the door, probable cause.
It may not be right, but a cop can get around your rights pretty easily if he wants to, and it'll probably hold up in court later. It's just wiser IMO not to give him reason to want to stop you in the first place, or reason to take you down if he does stop you.
To each his own man, just relating how I've gotten by 35 years without a bust, even getting caught red handed a few times. Do as ya will bro and good luck to ya. I've said all I'm gonna..
i have friends and family that are in law enforcement and we often discuss this while i smoke and they drink and take an occasional toke what that guy did was a good thing keeping windows up locking door then whays found cant be submitted in court cause of illegal s&s. get a real lawyer not a public pretender remember he gets paiid by the people who arrested you so it in his best interest for you to go to jail so they will have the money to pay him.
i was just busted yesterday for possesion.
im now kicked off my highschool soccer team =[
I just got this video yesderday!
I already learned a few things ;)
Yikes. No government grants/scholarships for you to go to college!Quote:
Originally Posted by Whereswaldo
Yeah one time on a friday night I had just smoked a fat bowl in my car and then proceeded to drive home. i got caught up at a DUI checkpoint a few minutes later. so i'm like "oh fuck" the whole time, nervous as hell, rolling down my window to let it air out for 5 minutes or so...and when it's my turn to be questioned the officer noticed the smell of weed. he made me pull into a parking lot where officers searched my car briefly. he asked me if i had smoked any weed , i said YES, on my lunch break at work 6 hours ago ( a blatant lie--more like 20 minutes ago). He gave me a field sobriety test and I passed it . he told me i am "impaired but not intoxicated", whatever that means. I was really polite to that cop and he told me that if i hit someone and kill them i'd be charged with manslaughter and DUI--then the surprise. He said, "it's on you". and he let me go, to drive away in my car-- impaired, but not intoxicated.
I was so surprised and relieved because I had weed in my car which they did not find, a pipe in there that they did not find.... but the simple idea that he was a reasonable man made me feel like not every single police officer is a fucking Nazi.
Or maybe he felt sorry for me. Or maybe he was just too lazy to write me a ticket and arrest me.
EDIT: this is the 666th post for me. bwahahahaha
well me and my friends got pulled over yesterday...
he pulled the driver out of the car, not sure exactly what they talked about, and he allowed the car to be searched. god, well he ended up finding a bong, a bottle of jack daniels and a bag (like half an eighth) O yeah and i feel o so stupid, the officer told us to hold still as he talked to the driver, and they were gone for like 5 min, and i could have pretty easily reached down and grabbed my jacket which contained like 1/5 gram of keif left. but i didn't and he ended up finding it, god i feel sooo stupid i didn't do anything, all i had to do was put it in my shoe and i didn't i just locked up and sat there:(
now im just hoping i can learn from this and use different strategies for my advantage, and have the guts to not consent to a search.
Haven't fallen for that since grade two when the teacher told me if I admitted to stealing this kids 'tazo' she would make this go a lot more easy. I guess by 'easy' they mean, 'won't have to argue for half an hour'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Markass
Anyway, to people saying that you should just be nice and polite etc. I would only do this if the cop is nice in the first place. Mainly because if you are just looking to get yourself off the hook, you are ONLY getting yourself off. There's still millions more people just like you who need to get let off, and by protecting your rights you are fighting for them as well. And also for yourself when you get pulled over again.
Think about it, if everyone just covered their own asses and cowered in fear of the almighty popo, do you think politicians would ever even think about legalising weed? No, because nobody would even put forward the idea.
Got pulled over by this cop with my friend driving. It was the night before the last day of year 12. We were going to fuck up the school. This cop pulls us over even though there were like 2-3 other cars of people who had already fucked the school up and were now bailing. This guy is a total asshole! Comes up and says "what the fuck are you doin round here?"
"Just driving mate"
"Where you going to?"
"home"
"Why are you out here?"
"we just went to get some coke(drink lol)"
"Stop being fucken smartasses and tell me what the fuck you are doing"
He clearly wanted us to admit we were trashing the school. so I chimed in with
"nothing, we got some drink and we're going home, now we're not doing anything wrong! and stop swearing at us" haha
"Can you breathe into this" lol I know I got him off that topic now and he just wants to bust us for something so my friend breathes into the breathalyser thing, dunno if you have em in america, just tests your blood alcohol content.
He takes our names and lets us go.
By the way we had spray cans and rotten eggs and all heaps of shit but when they flashed their lights all we did was slow down, turn down the next street while subtly pushing the bags of stuff under our seats, then pull over. It also takes them a while to get out of the car most times. And it did this time so we had an opportunity to get it all hidden. They put their headlights on full beam so you have to kinda not move your body and just put your arm close to the side of the seat or wherever your hiding your shit.
Anyway that probably made no sense but I just wanted to share some thoughts. Give a bit of advice etc. This is a good thread keep it alive.
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Originally Posted by Dream of the iris
wise words
I know its for training purposes, but FUCK this shit pisses me off.. I cant stand even to watch the BULLSHIT those fuckers pull..
great movie thanks for the thread:thumbsup:
thz markass for this video everyone needs to watch this.
:hippy: :hippy: :hippy: :hippy: :hippy:
veggii .....gives a 5 hippy rating !!
Watched it 3 times, to get it in my head. :] It's an amazing video, and thanks for stickying it.
Kudos to
creator of video
OP
and the guy who sticky'd it :P
i for one, drive far far better when im dirty or intox and try to follow all rules i know... that gives u the best layer of protection: Don't do shit to have a cop on your ass! drive @ speed limits, lower music in neighborhoods or vacant/silent streets, have your lights/stickers and tires checked routinely, if u feel u r swerving out of control just pull over, find something to eat and that will just kill the high instantly! then get on
the first cop ever to pull me over was one of these non-nazi guys hahaha I felt so good about the encounter i had since he said "boy, I can smell the alcohol from your mouth" and i wasn't even 21 plus i was driving @ 4 am and 5 miles or so over speed limit... i ended up passing the soberity test, and nothing on me with a clean record, so he came to my car and told me i can go... was lucky he didnt force me on a breathalyzer cuz i didnt know at the time i can say no to that as well!!Quote:
Originally Posted by IanCurtisWishlist
to me after buncha google searches, it means that he knows u have smoked/drank something and thus u r under its effect, but since u passed the soberity test and they "searched and found nothing" it was perhaps no good use of his time and systems time to process u when they aint got anything legally against u
i think this will explain it better: there is a legal limit for alcohol in system and driving... however if u are below the legal limit, u will be considered impaired but not fully intoxicated
further reading Impaired Driving - Why You Should Never Drink and Drive
good stuff here! if not on here already, "ask ed mj law-dont get busted" great book, highly recommend it, stuff we all know, but its good to go over every once in awhile! my tip----never admit to anything!, a good lawyer can help you GREATLY! if busted and you don't have money, don't be afraid call a few lawyers and see if they can work with you, example; i know of a similar situation where a guy got some great help from a 'good honest one lol' in exchange for landscaping!
being aware of your rights is important, but what you must also be aware of is the fact that a police officer can arrest you for a whole number of things perfectly legally. In my profession as an EMT, i have had patients who NEEDED to go to the hospital but refused where a normal patient would. to give you an idea it was something along the lines of "you understand that leaving your medical condition untreated or unchecked could have severe consequences including death" in other words it was clear that he will die if he didnt go to the hospital. a police officer had arrested the man under 51-50 stating that if he agreed to the fact that he will die, he is mentally unstable and a danger to him/herself and was arrested and taken to the hospital. police have much more legal authority than most people realize. and what that officer did was perfectly legal.in the same way you can be arrested for trying to commit suicide, you can be arrested to agreeing that you will die if you dont go to the hospital because its suicide.
what you can also do is vacuum seal you marijuana. i've done this and can vouch that it DOES work. I had recently gone on a 12 hour flight (ugh..) and i took 2 MMJ edibles with me. i had vacuum sealed them and put them in my carryon with a couple of chips and other snacks for the flight. it didnt set off any alarms for the woman behind the xray or the drug dogs because it looked like snacks for the flight to the woman and the dog couldnt smell them through the vacuum seal. i dont know about how good those ziploc vacuum bags are but i used a vacuum sealing machine from where i used to work.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesia
Beat them like this, say no to consent dont move around fast, and use a good odor elimination spray to get rid of the smell.....:thumbsup:
I use bioextreme, it is the fuking best stuff ever to get rid of the smell. I even beat the dog's nose with it. It is supposed to be used for hunting but it is the best damn stuff I have ever used, dont smell like nothing so no suspicions on strong odor or cover odor and it gets rid of the smell instantly for good.
Use it at home to, hell I even use it on the kids football and soccer gear google it they have a web site I buy it from its cheap and damn well worth it.:rasta:
Tips to Smoke Weed and stay
Important tips put together nicely.
Im sorry....anyone driving around smoking weed in states where its illegal is an idiot.....like HEY!!!!! Take me to jail please!!! Get the bud......hide it in trunk and take it home. If not....dont be mad when ur sitting in jail or doing the cycle with probation.
i have a problem in my town they now know that i can reverse the pit maneuver
and i never stop for cops until i'm in front of my lawyers house it's like three blocks from my door and i'll drive all they way there had them in two slow speed chases in previous years while calling my lawyer telling him i'm stopping by in a minute or two the reason for this is we had people getting robbed and girls rapped by a police impersonator during this time and my lawyer said i was advised not to stop unless i felt safe
to reverse the pit maneuver: gently tap brakes and steer into the side the other car is approaching from they will spin out instead of you!
don't believe me go try it works like a charm
cops are absent mined morons when they get power hungry narc task force left their big black mag lite at my buddies after a raid where they found
nothing we turned it into a BONG
I wouldn't underestimate the police if I were you. No offense but you don't strike me as the sharpest tool in the shed. I know some really smart people who got into law enforcement. Problem is they generally don't stay for too long, lol. It can be exciting and fun work but rather low pay for the risk when you think about it. Plus, busting stoners is just a drag in my book.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micsog
There's a lot of discussion around where the focus seems to be masking the odor of MJ in order to thwart a dog's sense of smell. I don't really believe in this as the most effective means of transportation. Why? Well, I've never seen anyone involved in a regular traffic stop with a K9 unit.
I think the real key to 'getting away' is prevention of probable cause. If there's no cause to search your vehicle, there will be no cause for calling in a K9 unit.
Here's a method that might work well. It's only been used in the transportation of Salvia from one state (where it's legal) to another state (where it's legal) when the states in between may frown at possession. Perhaps this would work for MJ, too.
STEP 1
Take only as much MJ with you as you can fit in a small film canister (the little black ones). You can probably have 3-4 canisters before looking like a freak.
STEP 2
Wrap the weed VERY WELL in plastic. You may wish to completely seal it with duct tape or something. Whatever you do, you should make sure that it easily fits in the film container. Make sure that it is not packed tight within the container.
STEP 3
Pack the weed tight in the container using Baking Soda. Why baking soda? Not only does it absorb odor, but it also acts as a pretty decent insulator--which you'll need soon. Place your film canisters to the side with caps on.
STEP 4
Now, you'll need candles. These candles should be brand new. It is VERY important that they have never been lit. I recommend buying new candles specifically for this step. Keep the receipt and bag. You should use candles no smaller than 14.5oz. You will need one candle for each film canister. Make sure the candle is OPAQUE. It should also have a VERY strong and unpleasant odor. Actually, if you can find a hemp candle or something, that would be even better.
STEP 5
Place a candle on a candle warmer. The candle warmer will melt the wax without disturbing its "like new" look. This process can take a while. Make sure you plan ahead. Rushing this step can be detrimental to your efforts.
IMPORTANT: Only heat the candle using a candle warmer. Attempting to heat the candle faster using a stove can damage the candle and ruin its appearance. It is important that the candle look like a new purchase.
STEP 6
Once the candle is completely melted through, gently slide the film canister into the center of the candle. It should be easy to suspend it directly in the center of the jar. Be very careful not to disturb the wax. If it looks unnatural, you've just created probable cause, and that's what you're trying to avoid. If the wax is too hot to suspend the canister, you should unplug the warmer and let the wax stiffen a bit. Suspend the container and let the wax naturally cover the canister. (You may have to heat it up again.) Once the canister is in place, remove the candle from the warmer and let the wax harden. Don't worry about the heat on the weed. The canister and baking soda will protect it from any loss of potency. The melted wax also releases a lot of odor, helping to mask any scent escaping the container.
STEP 7
Repeat this process for each film canister. When all of the candles are rehardened, you should inspect them for signs of use. If they still appear brand new (and you can not see the canister within), place them in the original shopping bag with receipt. Staple the bag closed. Store the bag in the trunk of your car. It is important that this bag be out of sight. Beneath the seats of your car is NO GOOD. The more barriers between the candles and the cops is better.
CONCLUSION
You've successfully masked the presence of your weed. If you are stopped, and the police decide to search your vehicle for any reason, they will never detect probable cause for destroying your personal property in order to find the drugs.
If a K9 has alerted the cops to your candles, hope that you used Hemp scented candles. Candles that smell like drugs should reasonably support a false alert, and the cops will have no probable cause to destroy your personal property.
No matter what happens, probable cause is the key. Never consent to a search. Even as they frisk you or search your car, don't be afraid to continually speak out that you invoke and refuse to waive your 4th and 6th Amendment rights. NEVER answer questions. EVER.
Most importantly, NEVER travel with a smoking device. When cops find a smoking device, whether in plain sight or on your person, they immediately have probable cause to search your vehicle. Buy a pipe once you reach your destination, and only after removing the weed from your vehicle and storing it on your private property. NEVER travel with a pipe AND weed. That's just stupid.
There's another trick I have, but it's best used for Salvia because dogs aren't trained to find Salvia. So I won't mention it here.
Peace!
Yes, they can bring in a dog. I used to think that bringing in a dog could be argued as invasion of privacy, but the truth is that the dog isn't smelling odors INSIDE your car, it's smelling odors AROUND your car. When they smell it around your car, they can argue probable cause to open your car. Once open, it's all over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Markass
First off, great video. Second, I'd like to add my little encounters to the record.
While pulling out of a driveway I cut off a police officer, who then turns on his lights and pulled me over. I had in my car three friends and about half an oz of niceness. I told my friends to stay in the car and offer no comments, I even told them I wouldn't drive them anywhere if they didn't listen to me.
The police were slow to get out of the car, so I grabbed my license/reg/insur. (held together in a handy paperclip) and stepped out to meet them. They ordered me to get back in my car. I instead asked them why i was being stopped. They made mention of wreckless driving, and asked who was in the car. I told them the names of the poeple in the car, and they asked some more 'exploratory' questions, whare was i going?, why was i in a hurry?,ect. I didn't answer those questions, I simply asked if they were going to give me a ticket. They didn't answer, and instead asked more questions. Can they search the car? I said 'nope'. They asked 'why you got a dead body in there'. I said 'nope just got done reading book on the constitution, wanna to see if I really did have the right to refuse a search'
It wasn't long after that ,that they allowed me to leave, without even a ticket.
I have been stopped a number of times, sometimes by the same officers. I find that once you assert your rights, you get a sort of reputation among them. In a later stop after refuseing to allow a search the second officer actually preempted my answer by saying to the first officer, 'he one of those constitutionalists', It became old hat and not suspicious at all for me to refuse to allow a search. tens years later and perhaps a dozens stops. Most officers know me and don't even ask anymore. On top of that they are extremely cautious about how they proceed.
Recently we had a party, and the police arrived. I went to the curb to meet the officers, when they found out it was me, and saw that the front door had closed behind me, they didn't even bother getting out of the car. just said 'keep it down, and keep it safe' and left.
Some officers are constantly trying to 'catch you' if you become known as a 'smart guy' or 'constitutionalist' but hey, they're the same officers that would try and catch you if you weren't.
I must say After my party I've been invited to many more, and elected to speak on behalf of the home-owner too. to date no officer has dragged away any member of our parties, regardless of the party favors.
simply replace the words the officers usually says to you with these words and you'll be fine
Officer 'I need you to help me' = 'Your rights prevents me from investigating you unless you wave them.'
Officer 'Just wanna look to see you don't have (insert)' =' If I find anything I can charge you with , your going to jail'
Officer 'Can I check to see everyone is alright' = 'I wanna see if I can find something to charge you with, or use as leverage to get you to wave your rights'
Don't reason with an officer, they will often try to get you to 'explain' on the premise that if its a good explanation they might let you go. The only time they let you go is if they don't have enough evidence, not when they have plenty.
There are a few cases where an officer might let you slide, but ask youself this are you willing to bet 1 yr,5yr,10yrs of your life on it?
:cool:
...for some more good info on how not to get busted, google Barry Cooper / Kopbusters, and be prepared to be educated by someone who was previously on the front lines doing his level best to bust yo' ass, but has had a conversion and has seen the light..!
Yea my friend refused a search without probable cause so the police tazed him. and then they told thim that they would set his car on fire if he didn't cooperate with them..