The year 2012, Will it be the End?

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Originally Posted by Innominate

What about it don't you believe?

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Well, for what reason should I believe the world is going to end because the Mayans stopped writing the calender beyond 2012?

I've read about the subject briefly, and seen plenty of other "The world is going to end" theories, what makes this one any different? I have never seen any worthy evidence that imply the world will end by this specific date.

I'm not poking fun at you or anything, I'm just saying I find it hard to believe. If you have any real evidence that you feel will make me think otherwise then feel free to show me.

Sorry Nation_1ne, I can't exactly remember all of the prophets on hand but first off do some astronomical research on 2012. I do know that the predictions come from the Mayans, Nostradamus and the knights templar. Another cool thing to research is secret underground facility's built by governments designed to survive nuclear attacks and global destruction. One last thing to do, go to wikipedia and type in 2012 (lots of interesting stuff). I don't believe the earth will come to a complete end in the year 2012, but I do believe that something very significant will happen and effect the way we live on that date.

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Originally Posted by Innominate

December 21, 2012 is said to be the beginning of the apocalypse(meaning in Greek: An unveiling, revelation) by Nostradamus, the date of the Earth's polar shift, and the end of the Mayan calender, World War III, etc.

Something will happen and current events seem to be closing in around this subject. It's very real.

Now is the time to rid your fear of death, and welcome your afterlives. Life will continue.

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Dude, how the fuck would the Mayans have any fucking idea whatsoever about the apocalypse? Who the fuck is Nostradamus and how the fuck would he know anything? Who the fuck predicted the end of WW3? How the fuck can you know when the Earths polar shift will occur?

Man honestly, people are all like 'omgomg someone said the world will end and theyre really old people and they ended their calender so it the world HAS to end when they end their calender since they know so much about the world and are so knowledgeable about the modern laws of science aye'

The FUCK MAN :jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by smartin.2006

Sorry Nation_1ne, I can't exactly remember all of the prophets on hand but first off do some astronomical research on 2012. I do know that the predictions come from the Mayans, Nostradamus and the knights templar. Another cool thing to research is secret underground facility's built by governments designed to survive nuclear attacks and global destruction. One last thing to do, go to wikipedia and type in 2012 (lots of interesting stuff). I don't believe the earth will come to a complete end in the year 2012, but I do believe that something very significant will happen and effect the way we live on that date.

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I've had a look and something that striked me was "According to the Maya there will be a baktun ending in 2012, a significant event being the end of the 13th 400 year period, but not the end of the world." so just for those who are saying the Mayans said it's the end of the world, you may want to check your sources.

"For the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle,"

"Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies in Crystal River, Fla. To render Dec. 21, 2012, as a doomsday or moment of cosmic shifting, she says, is "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in."

Ok, so that's the Mayans. They don't think the world will end then but they believe something will happen because it's the end of a cycle.

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No, just no. I refuse to believe this theory based on this.

I also decided to check out this website:

2012 End of the world

When I visited the page I instantly headed for the Mayan Doomsday section. I mean after all Wikipedia had said that 2012 wasn't doomsday just the end of an era that would have been celebrated. It was also stated the calender exceeded 2012. However that website seems to contradict that all and say that 2012 was interpreted by the Mayans as the end of the world.

Like I said this topic is sketchy and I just find it hard to believe. Sorry.

Im kind of a believe to tell you the truth. I don't believe it is a coincidence that some of the most intelligent people to have lived would predict such dramatic changes around the same time...these peoples focus was on nature, and science for the majority of their lives...they understood a lot more than any of us can imagine

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Originally Posted by L Rag

Dude, how the fuck would the Mayans have any fucking idea whatsoever about the apocalypse? Who the fuck is Nostradamus and how the fuck would he know anything? Who the fuck predicted the end of WW3? How the fuck can you know when the Earths polar shift will occur?

Man honestly, people are all like 'omgomg someone said the world will end and theyre really old people and they ended their calender so it the world HAS to end when they end their calender since they know so much about the world and are so knowledgeable about the modern laws of science aye'

The FUCK MAN :jointsmile:

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Go read, acting like this won't make you any smarter.

I don't believe in the actual end of the planet Earth but the inevitable change in humanity is upon us, whether it be good or bad.

Again, I see the apocalypse as an "unveiling" of some sort of truth that will be made public and affect us all. There is a difference between the 2012 Apocalypse and the 2029-2030-2036 Armageddon theories. I wonder if the unveiling is the truth about us or those we live under.

I'm more curious than afraid.

Whats the inevitable change in humanity?

The human race doesn't live forever, change is natural. It is unknown to what extent we change but there will always be change. Our lives are so fragile we cannot comprehend because we are locked inside a state of time and body that awaits its release from this prison we call Earth to some sort of divine force.

When our world flourished with humanity there was change. Before it there was change. But whether if it will all fall before us or it grows in favor of our humane desires, there will still be change.

Personally, I see this change as truth, which we have very little access to but yearn to understand.

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Originally Posted by Innominate

Personally, I see this change as truth, which we have very little access to but yearn to understand.

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What truth?

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Originally Posted by rebgirl420

Omg, I hear about this all the time on Coast 2 Coast.

But in all seriousness, I don't believe it. Because, people have been trying to predict the end of days since the dawn of man.

There was this minister who got his whole church (the whole town) to believe that the end of the world was on this day (I forget the exact day so lets say July 7th). The whole town quit their jobs, sold their homes and everything and went to wait on a hill for the end.

It never came. The towns people were ruined. But alas, they still believed in religion.

So the church leader set another date and the people followed him to the hill again.

This story is random and only kinda has to do with the top post but I heard it on the history channel one day while stoned. And it was on during a show about the 2012 end of the world shit.

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I think they did a parody of that on The Simpsons, thats what they were making fun of. lol.

Also if it did end, it would give me motivation to do all the things I always wanted to do that my lazy ass just won't do now. lol

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Originally Posted by Nation_1ne

What truth?

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I don't have the answers, but I will tell you that there is no reason to believe every fact that you are given. Perhaps those who have believed will suffer the consequences of realization. Truth is not always easy to endure, and the ways of our brains proves it.

There is truth in everything that may be out of the detection of our human senses or in some cases held back from us either for our protection or for another's profit.

The Greek word for Apocalypse is "an unveiling." It is not the end of the world but an affection of our times. This change will bring much truth to our lives and our history. If we live to experience it, but who am I to say that death is not enlightening?

Remember that people have followed lies continuously throughout human history. Truth is change.

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Originally Posted by Innominate

The human race doesn't live forever, change is natural. It is unknown to what extent we change but there will always be change. Our lives are so fragile we cannot comprehend because we are locked inside a state of time and body that awaits its release from this prison we call Earth to some sort of divine force.

When our world flourished with humanity there was change. Before it there was change. But whether if it will all fall before us or it grows in favor of our humane desires, there will still be change.

Personally, I see this change as truth, which we have very little access to but yearn to understand.

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So, uh, let me get this straight.
Are you saying that this 2012 stuff will cause the inevitable change in humanity? Cause you just said that humanity has been changing forever ..
And if you are not saying that.. Your just talking about the inevitable change in humanity lol..What has that got to do with anything?? Your saying humanity changes, wow, really? :wtf:

And how can you go on talking about the great truth of the world, and then say you have no answers? You tell us in order to understand the truth we should be cynical of facts?
And now your saying truth is change. :stoned::stoned::wtf::stoned:

And .. Uh.. the Greek word for apocalypse is 'an unveiling'?
Really?
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Personally, I believe the world is not going to end. The most important thing is the sun releasing massive amounts of electromagnetic radiation. Basically everything electronic on the planet Earth will become useless, and we may lost electricity for quite some time. But there is no way to know how it will affect us or for how long. Earth isn't going anywhere, but there may be mass chaos. I have a plan, and it involves being armed, and ready to live off the land. Also have my own personal outdoor grow crop because ya gotta have weed!

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Originally Posted by L Rag

So, uh, let me get this straight.
Are you saying that this 2012 stuff will cause the inevitable change in humanity? Cause you just said that humanity has been changing forever ..

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I said I don't have the answers for 2012.

Population explosions, mass industrial progression, war, intelligence, manipulation. These are many of the few ways we have changed. It's not hard to understand.

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Originally Posted by L Rag

And if you are not saying that.. Your just talking about the inevitable change in humanity lol..What has that got to do with anything?? Your saying humanity changes, wow, really? :wtf:

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Death is change, isn't it? Especially on a large scale. If not death, it could be for good or for worse.

If the apocalypse affects humanity don't you think it has everything to do with it? Your confusing yourself. Don't blame me.

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Originally Posted by L Rag

And how can you go on talking about the great truth of the world, and then say you have no answers? You tell us in order to understand the truth we should be cynical of facts?
And now your saying truth is change. :stoned::stoned::wtf::stoned:

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I never believed everything I was told, and neither should you. But at some point in your life you may wonder and regret your close-mindedness while the answers are out there hidden from you.

I don't believe you really care.

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Originally Posted by L Rag

And .. Uh.. the Greek word for apocalypse is 'an unveiling'?
Really?
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Yeah.


What is your problem? Why are you so sensitive about this?

Alright dude, look I'm sorry I shouldn't have been so aggressive. Everyone has their own beliefs, and I guess I just couldn't understand the way you had described yours.
And the Greek word thing, the way you said it, made it sound like the actual Greek word for the English word apocalypse is 'an unveiling'... You get me?
Anyway bro sorry. Peace :jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by CultureCherryPopper

Personally, I believe the world is not going to end. The most important thing is the sun releasing massive amounts of electromagnetic radiation. Basically everything electronic on the planet Earth will become useless, and we may lost electricity for quite some time. But there is no way to know how it will affect us or for how long. Earth isn't going anywhere, but there may be mass chaos. I have a plan, and it involves being armed, and ready to live off the land. Also have my own personal outdoor grow crop because ya gotta have weed!

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Whats this about the sun releasing heaps of electromagnetic radiation?
And I like the sound of your plan bro :thumbsup:

I have doubts about the world ending in 2012 or any certain date
I dont think this worlds goin any where real fast

as far as global warming wasnt Georgia the antartic 300 mil years ago

dont we just evolve?

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Originally Posted by silkyblue

I have doubts about the world ending in 2012 or any certain date
I dont think this worlds goin any where real fast

as far as global warming wasnt Georgia the antartic 300 mil years ago

dont we just evolve?

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Yes we do? And yes the world does change, if thats what you were meaning, but not as fast as it has been.. Thats the problem..

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Originally Posted by L Rag

Alright dude, look I'm sorry I shouldn't have been so aggressive. Everyone has their own beliefs, and I guess I just couldn't understand the way you had described yours.
And the Greek word thing, the way you said it, made it sound like the actual Greek word for the English word apocalypse is 'an unveiling'... You get me?
Anyway bro sorry. Peace :jointsmile:

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We're fine here Rag. Peace.

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Originally Posted by L Rag

Dude, how the fuck would the Mayans have any fucking idea whatsoever about the apocalypse? Who the fuck is Nostradamus and how the fuck would he know anything? Who the fuck predicted the end of WW3? How the fuck can you know when the Earths polar shift will occur?

Man honestly, people are all like 'omgomg someone said the world will end and theyre really old people and they ended their calender so it the world HAS to end when they end their calender since they know so much about the world and are so knowledgeable about the modern laws of science aye'

The FUCK MAN :jointsmile:

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fuckin' eh

mayans were savages !

I wouldnt believe a dam word they said!!

no one knows when

we arent equipped to know when the worlds gonna blow

if it does

I believe an important matter to keep at hand is the possibility of UFO relations to 2012. What is peculiar is this issue has been becoming more and more popular as time progresses, especially bringing up UFO sightings during presidential debates, as more U.S. government officials and pilots are urging our government to release information relating to a subject that has been guarded from us.

I'm no alien fanatic, but I do believe that this is a subject to be considered. If there are aliens, what would they do? Save us? Destroy us? Control us? Observe us or watch us die so they can take planet Earth?

Im lovin' this thread, this is the sorta shit the internet was made for.

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Originally Posted by Kid Dynamite

The mayans didn't say the world was going to end in 2012, they said it would change.

We'll just have to wait and see...

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YES! ...they predicted these cycles and on every cycle something happens in the world that changes it....maybe a 5th dimension ...ever heard of Terence Mckenna, that is some trippy ass shit that guy talks about.

Who cares? I'll be chillin wit my homies smokin a couple joints though just in case ;]

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Originally Posted by Kid Dynamite

Im lovin' this thread, this is the sorta shit the internet was made for.

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Lol nah bro it was made for something else aye..:giggity:

:thumbsup::rolleyes:

Please believe me, these man made prophecies are gonna become true by us believing in them.

worlds gonna end again huh...............well mabey this time it realy will end. Its all good cause in 2009 Im going with the space aliens and timeshifter, or timetraveler (sorry bro I cant remember your name.........you know)

I think it's bullshit.. but if it was true i wouldn't actually be THAT bothered.. think how long the world has been in existance.. to go down at the end would be an honour

some beileive that on 2012 there is going to be some huge change happening, and people see that as the end of the world. I feel though that 2012 will be the date cannabis is legalized in the USA. lets just hope im right:)

live life, you will die someday fuck it live in the present not the past

It's the ultimate movie for the horror-film freak.

The World is getting more spiritual and, if Sylvia Brown says that, "in ten to fifteen years, we'll be speaking to the dead like they're standing right next to us", then, I don't know. I do believe that Nostradamus had further predictions. I have predicted that I will see the age of forty.

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Originally Posted by Jah420

I think it's bullshit.. but if it was true i wouldn't actually be THAT bothered.. think how long the world has been in existance.. to go down at the end would be an honour

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Thats a pretty good point bro.. Yeah we'd be like the 0.1% of all people or something aye. Awesome

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Originally Posted by WeThePeople

I have heard about this for sometime now, and the year 2012 ends on the miya calender, the myans where very acurate at calculating time, and predicted perfectly full moons, and other events thousands of year ahead of there time, Scientist have learned the poles may shift from north to south, which happens every 50,000 years and where coming up to it very close, What i mean by poles shifting is, all land mass is sitting on lava and the outer shell which is land will rotate dramtically faster then usual causeing the earth to spin of axis and go off course out of our the solar system. Now this may sound like a bunch nonsence but i saw a show on it and it was suprisingly believable, Just go to google and type in 2012 doomsday and read about it, I was trippin out about this lol, Is it a fad, to get people scared n this is all about money?, Or is it something more real?

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It means that the MAGNETIC poles are going to flip. Your compass will point in the opposite direction. The time (several decades?) it takes for them to flip will be very dangerous because we won't have any protection from solar radiation.

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Originally Posted by cannabis campbell

Its all bullshit scientifically the world will end when the sun burns out which is in about 5 billion years thank god we wont be around then could you just imagine the end of the world each day getting worse and worse???

But i think by that time 5 billion years later technology will be so advanced that somehow they would come up with some sort of replacement for the sun lol.

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i think humans will be extinct long before the sun burns out. and in that case, the planet will still be hear, there just wont be anything living on it.

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Originally Posted by Chong Version 2.0

It means that the MAGNETIC poles are going to flip. Your compass will point in the opposite direction. The time (several decades?) it takes for them to flip will be very dangerous because we won't have any protection from solar radiation.

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Can you back this up?

No offense I'm just interested...

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Originally Posted by SantaClawz

Are aliens REAL?

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Yes the aliens were all killed and their ghosts were sucked up by a big vacuum cleaner and freeze dried. Later they were loaded onto space going DC-9's and deposited inside a volcano on Earth.

:hippy:

I'm pretty stoned mind you, but I was wondering if the apocalypse will be the change in mood of the people. We are beginning to see it, food and gas prices, taxes, weather, political and media fraudulence, economic chaos, and people only have their own mental limitations.

Generations are getting aggressive and dumbed, undetermined contempt for the television.

2012 the End ? ... Impossible ! ... my trailer payments run out thru 2035 ... :jointsmile: