Just move out and get your own place.... its a no-brainer.Quote:
Originally Posted by moui_woui
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Just move out and get your own place.... its a no-brainer.Quote:
Originally Posted by moui_woui
[quote=moui_woui]I'am 15. I dont think my mom would really care.
that was a mistake, u do know your supposed to be 18 to be on this board right?
i would never do that. i hate it when the smoke gets all hot.
I bet you don't need to change the water after every session, if you're that paranoid.
Well the person that i got the bubbler from needed it back because it was never his to begen with. But i bought a sweet ass pipe from him.
I definitely get more stoned from pipes and joints than I do from a bong.
Vaporizer is the strongest. :thumbsup:
i get higher off of bongs then i do off of a pipe. just because ican take alot bigger hit. what little bit of thc imay loose, i more then make up for the size of hit im taking. so you burn up your weed a little faster, are you that stingy about it in the first place?
I'm pretty sure a bong should get you higher because of the bigger, cooler hits.
And to answer one of the original questions, if your bong isn't made out of plastic, I don't see why you'd think fire would harm it.
ok if you have the balls to smoke the weed in an apartment I think you can manage to find the courage to fill up a water bottle use the water then when your done smoking refill the water bottle. or my choice it go to the bathroom say your gonna take a long shower clog the door w/ a towel intil fully steamed up then smoke and then turn off the water wait ontill all the steam has seteled and hide the bong in your cloths wrap a towel around yourself and go to ur room. re-hide bong and listen to Afraid by: Motley Crue over and over
Don't be impressed. It's not my lab... it was procured by NORML and MAPS for the benefit of tokers everywhere.
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Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue
That was a joke. I don't know who could drink that shit without throwing up... much less who would.Quote:
Originally Posted by 420_24/7
Do you work for NORML?Quote:
Originally Posted by jsn9333
Have you ever smoked a bong?
That study proves nothing without an external reference providing clarity and backing. It was done many years ago.
I do not work for NORML, but I respect their work. I used to smoke only out of a water bong; now I smoke out of a pipe (a fairly long one to let the smoke cool).Quote:
Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue
Again, this is the only study I have ever heard of that set out to scientifically measure the efficiency of a water bong compared to regular smoking when it comes to THC content and tar filtering. If you don't have any other studies showing this one is wrong, then I'm going to go with it (and my personal experience which is that a pipe gets me higher, faster).
Why would I assume sticky tar sticks to water but sticky cannabinoids don't? I don't care how old the study is... you're not showing me any studies newer or opposing this one.
My point is, you're not getting any higher then I am by smoking a pipe instead of a bong. If you smoke 0.3 in a pipe or 0.3 in a bong, it's the same except the pipe is a lot more harsh. The water is proven to filter out carcinogens, unlike a pipe...
Bongs ftw, gotta gree with reefer rogue, the amount of thc "lost" in a bong is so miniscule, that it really makes no difference, the study that was done, was done in a time when weed was a lot less potent, probably making it somewhat of a difference back then.
That's fine. I don't claim to be getting higher then you, and I don't care whether or not I get higher then you. All I care about is that I get higher faster smoking a pipe instead of a water bong. That's just me. And the only scientific study I know of showed that the water filtered out 30% more THC then tar. That's significant to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue
the study was done just a few years agoQuote:
Originally Posted by Enemy of Real1ty
but they use low potency cannabis because there is a limit to the amount of thc that it can legally contain when being tested.
You are way too sketch. I used to have a bong and I would use it at night in my room with my parents home, and after I was done I would just pour the water into a water bottle and hide the water bottle behind a drawer in my dresser. I would keep using new bottles until I had the chance to dump them one day. It's pretty simple really, but it may be easier for me because I have a fridge in my room so I always have bottles laying around my room. Get a funnel if its messy or something.
I must ask if you read the entire study,
i didnt, i only read the parts about water filtration because thats what concerned me, i saw that it may filter more thc than tar, but even so that could be because it filter barely any tar and barely any thc.
But this is what caught my interest
This would mean that with a bong you are preventing many of these harmful chemicals from entering your body, and with a pipe you still get the same if not more tar.Quote:
Nonetheless, it is still premature to judge that waterpipes are actually unhealthful, since they may filter out other, non-solid smoke toxins occurring in the gas phase of the smoke, which was not analyzed in the study. Noxious gases known to occur in marijuana smoke include hydrogen cyanide, which incapacitates the lung's defensive cilia; volatile phenols, which contribute to the harshness of the taste; aldehydes, which promote cancer; and carbon monoxide, a known risk factor in heart disease. Previous studies indicate that water filtration may be quite effective in absorbing some of these [Nicholas Cozzi, Effects of Water Filtration on Marijuana Smoke: A Literature Review, MAPS Newsletter, Vol. IV #2, 1993]. If so, waterpipes might still turn out to have net health benefits.
Bravo sir
lol this is hilarious this is wot u do get 2 bottles of water 1 full 1 empty use the full one to fill ur bubler then jus empty water bottle into another empty bottle. wot r ur parents goin to say? its not like ther gona be wonderin y u got a bottle of water in ur room lol
Never actually read the, was just going by what you guys were saying, whats the actual potency level of weed used in studies as compared to ..say normal dro.
they used cannabis that had 2.3% thc. They even stated that it is low potency and that if it were higher quality the results would have been different
dude an amp is the best place to hide shit. cause thats where i hide my stuff at.
Yeah, I read that part. When it comes to other chemicals alone it may be better to use a bong. Key word they use is "may". They haven't studied that to then extent they've studied the tar/THC ratio.
The study showed that water certainly filters out more THC then tar (also a known cancer causing agent). They aren't sure whether or not it filtered out more THC then the other known cancer causing chemicals. Basically they are saying don't throw your bong out because of one study. And I agree... if a bong works better for you then stick to it.
I also vaporize when I use a pipe for most of the initial hits (via the "Ubie method"). This lets me hold in the first few hits off the bowl that are pretty much all cannabinoid vapor... with no worry that I'm holding in carcinogenic chemicals. So all in all smoking in a pipe is much more efficient for me, saves my weed, and is just the way to go for me.
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Originally Posted by 420_24/7
if u have a color changing piece ur best off leaving the water in there to get dirty an nasty, the piece needs to get dirty to change color, clean it and ull lose the color. id just find a better hiding place, but i dont know how invasive your parents can be
secondly im not big fan of staying inside and smoking by myself if u have any nearby woods or burnt out buildings they could make for a chill smoking spot with ur friends