I may get a vehicle one day but i prefer walking and public transport for the moment. I can be as high as i want :stoned:
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I may get a vehicle one day but i prefer walking and public transport for the moment. I can be as high as i want :stoned:
The smart way!Quote:
Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue
Stoned is impaired and you take the responsibility for yourself but the question is what if someone died because of the fact that your senses were dulled by any form of drug.
As for being in an accident when changing radio stations or on your mobile (using a mobile while driving is rightly illegal) , the driver could be charged with careless driving since they aren't paying attentiion to driving .
Buy Mitsubishi , they have a solution for changing radio stations, the radio controls are built into the steering wheel.
I don't care what people say about Marijuana and driving under the influence of it but I can drive perfectly fine high. The only time it's a problem is when someone is with me and I have a tendency to joke around too much and not pay attention to driving. But as far as actually driving, I can drive extremely well. Just last night, I had smoked 8 bowls in my truck (hotbox) with various people across the night. I was on my way home, it was raining, and I was going about 40 mph down this road. I saw a huge like beaver, I guess it was a beaver. The thing was huge, one of the biggest animals I've ever seen on a road besides a deer. I saw him when I was going 40 and he was maybe 12 feet in front of me, I slammed on breaks and stopped about a foot before hitting him and he scurried off the road. That goes to prove that my reaction time is the same high and sober, if worse, it's so small it doesn't matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mississippi Steve
IMPOSSIBLE !Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfwood
x² ÷ 20 + x = Overall stopping distance in feet.
x = speed
For example: If you are travelling at 30 mph
30² ÷ 20 + 30 =
(30 x 30) ÷ 20 + 30 =
900 ÷ 20 + 30 = 75 ft.
This is a work of complete and utter fiction. None of this ever happened.
Let me clear this up... first things first I don't drive. I'm 18 and I have no interest in driving at the moment, I prefer to get buses and trains. But from the ages of 15 - 17 I worked for a guy who would sell anything from 4 to 15 ounces of bud a night. Every single day he would get calls and write them down, then at 5:30 we would start work and finish at 12:30. He couldnt drive because he was banned so he got another guy to drive whilst he took the calls and I would be given the stuff to go into houses, get the money and bring it back to him. We used to have a load of trouble of the police practically every single day, when you are operating in the center of the second biggest city in the country every single day in some of the shadiest hotspots you get noticed a LOT. Anyway this one time we went to do a llate drop in a supermarket car park, I got out the car and went into the other guys ride, sorted him out and went back to my boss. He shouted out the window for me to get in so ran and hopped in and he said that the old bill had just slowly gone past the entrance to the supermarket and saw me moving between the cars. Our driver sped out, I looked right and no joke the cop car was speeding like fuck, it swung round the mini-island and came back round towards us with blues and twos blaring. We started reaching speeds of about 70 or 80 on these tight little roads whilst getting 8 ounces of stuff into a white carrier bag. When it was all in I told the driver to stop the moment he pulled round a corner, he did so and I got out the car with the bag and ran back round the corner just as the police were going past. I heard a door slam behind me and I knew that they'd let one out to chase me so I just kept running and running. I hopped over a garden fence, ran round to a side gate, opened that, crossed the road and hopped over their fence, threw the bag containing the shit on the garage roof and then went garden hopping. About a minute and a half later I was grabbed hiding behind some bins and taken into custody. They were asking me all sorts of questions like who was I travelling with, what happened to the bag I was carrying, why did I run etc but I didnt say a word. It turns out that they never caught up with my boss and because I didnt do anything wrong they had to let me go (after spending a night in the cells for resisting arrest). That night I thought about what would have happened if I had been caught.... so I rang my boss and quit. The next day I got the bus up to where we got chased, climbed onto the roof and got the bag. Needless to say I kept that ;) But about a year ago I saw my boss on the news after an undercover policeman tried to buy weed off him, he realised, shut the door on his hand and dragged him up the road for a quarter of a mile. He got 3 years for that. Guess some people just dont know when to stop......
i got pulled over twice once for racing and one for being a car past curfew. both times i confessed the bud was mine, and both times the officers let me walk away with the herb and the bong. just be honest. the officer last night was givng me some insight telling me just always be honest they don't really care about a little pot. but once you start lying and denying searches it pisses them off and they want to take the law to the fullest extent.
PEACE
What about dogs?
In Washington, you have to take a ferry to get anywhere, and there are cops taking dogs through the whole ferry line supposedly sniffing for bombs.
Has anyone had their car sniffed (from the outside) and not been caught?
They train sniffers for particular items, drug dogs are not trained for explosives and visa versa.
I've been driving stoned since i started driving. I've never had an accident, or come even close to having an accident. I hold an advanced driving licence, so im more than safe and capable while stoned.
I drive stoned everyday. I do tend to speed, on the safes streches [i know what people say, speeding is never safe] but the fact is if you know how to control a car and know where it's safe and where it's not, it IS safe. You obviously have to also take into concideration the car, the weather and density of traffic.
I have weed in my van everyday, for work. I've never been pulled over, or searched in the van. When i have been caught with weed, i've had it confiscated and a warning [not a caution, i wasnt arrested and then dearrested.] or they just left it and said "not in public."
I dont have a problem with the police, they dont make the pathetic laws. Although, in many other areas i do have a problem with them, they're lazy and never doing their jobs properly. Their corrupt, and dont know HOW to use disgression.
I'm smoking weed, not stabbing people. The cops dont bother me coz i dont bother them. I hurt no one. I cause no harm. The public might get a whiff of my ganja every now and again, but they dont mind - most of them smoke it anyway.
And my stoned driving, is safe driving. Hence why i've never crashed. I've also never had any damage done while parked, or had a breakdown in any of my cars [coz i fixed them myself haha] and never damaged anyone elses property. My insurance is low as fuck, and im a happy man ahaha.
I know not everyone agree's with stoned driving, but think of it like this - would you rather i was stoned, or drunk? There's your answer.
By the way, just so you know, im not talking about being mashed. I mean stoned as in mellow, relaxed comming down if you like. If im too fucked i just wait before i leave. But i normally do a good job with the timing of the last joint i smoke so im mellow when i need to leave.
Why make a comparison between two wrongs?
Asking if I would prefer you behind the wheel stoned or drunk is ridiculous since the answer is a firm NEITHER!
Neither wasnt an option.Quote:
Originally Posted by psychocat
And anyway, peoples opinions arnt going to change mine. I'll drive stoned if i want to, and who's going to stop me?
How extremely mature an attitude , not selfish at all. :D
Well no, i dont think it is. Almost EVERY driver has had an accident at some point in their life - not me though. Like i said, i've never even come close, and i took both my tests stoned. I've been driving stoned since i started. I already know im a good driver - but im also a good stoned driver.
I know you wouldnt rather i was drunk, so whats the problem?
I dont drive around with the mentality that it'll never happen to me, because people who do are the statistics. But, i have plenty of driving experience, an advanced driving licence, and clean driving licence and i've never even been pulled over.
As far as im concerned, me, driving stoned is just as good, if not better than other people driving sober.
And to be honest, i couldnt give a toss if it's selfish - look out for #1, and I'm #1.
A good buddy of mine got busted last week. He was driving drunk/stoned and decided to pull over at a public library to rest up, and he woke up to a cop standing outside his window. The cop asked him to get out of the car and asked him how much alcohol he had consumed that night. He is 18 and thus illegally drunk. He had a gram of really dank bud in his pocket, and the cop patted him down and asked him if he had any drugs on him. He said no, and the cop reached into his pocket and pulled out the weed. "this would explain the other thing i smelled..." he said. The cops also found mushrooms in chocolate bars, but the dumb pigs thought it was weed! But the kicker of the story is my buddy usually keeps all his contraband in a sealed camoflaged (it's like Ajax Bleach or something, they are super realistic. they twist off at the bottom and thats where you put your stuff. we get them at a records/headshop) can. Why the weed/shrooms weren't in the can i don't know, but it was a combination of really bad decisions and really bad luck that busted him. But anyways he kept the can in the trunk, and they didn't find it.
i really like that 1law at a time rule. that seems smart.
What's your coefficient of friction? What is the surface area of the tires that make contact with the road surface? What kind of brakes?Quote:
Originally Posted by psychocat
The figures quoted are an average therefore if you took all the data from all makes of cars then you would be able to work out an average.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefer86
Now take an F1 car, there are thousands of points of data that you can take from an F1 car like
Downforce which is adjustable
Aerodynamics which is also fully adjustable
Temperature of tyres
Temperature of brakes
BUT when you break it all down all of the above have one thing in common and that's that they all have an average.
a. An intermediate level or degree: near the average in size.
b. The usual or ordinary kind or quality: Although the wines vary, the average is quite good.
3. Sports The ratio of a team's or player's successful performances such as wins, hits, or goals, divided by total opportunities for successful performance, such as games, times at bat, or shots: finished the season with a .500 average; a batting average of .274.
Satisfactory expanation ?
Regardles of your attempt to muddy the waters it is IMPOSSIBLE for a vehicle travelling on regular roads using even the best of statistics to stop from 40 mph within 12 feet.
Basic physics has shown this in tests carried out by people like these RoSPA : Road Safety
You werent clear; You talk to me condescendingly like I dont know what an average is. I was asking you to explain your reasoning, not attacking you personally. If you treat complete strangers(especially those whose major is physics) with such contempt, I wonder about your families and loved ones.
Oh well, thats what I get for asking questions again.
I've driven high MANY more times than I've driven sober. I've gotten in one accident and been pulled over three times. Got in the accident and received my only speeding ticket when completely sober.
Only reason I was pulled over the other two times, both while having a half O in my console and after smoking a couple bowls, was because when they ran my plates I came up as some 42 year old black guy wanted for aggravated robbery. It was a short stop and they apologized for the inconvenience. I'm also the best driver out of all of my friends and everyone I know(most parents included).
I agree with Mississippi on theory, that yes, you are impaired. But it's not nearly as impairing as alcohol/putting on makeup/loud stereo playing/adhd/being asian/lots of friends in the car, things you see on the roads nearly every day.
First rule of thumb is to not give them a reason to stop you.
If you do get stopped I wouldn't consent to a search. If you say no and that gives them reason to think you're hiding something, then a good lawyer could get you off. Exercising your constitutional rights shouldn't create probable cause to search the vehicle.
-- iluv2smoke :rastasmoke:
LMFAO!!! Put an asian in the classroom they'll fuck up the curve, put an asian in the car they'll hit the curve.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aristotle
iluv2smoke, your right in the sense that it is our constitutional right and that it does not lead to probable cause, however, it does lead to reasonable suspicion which ultimately would lead to a K-9 unit. And the funny thing about those dogs is that there is no way of hiding the smell from them. Even if the dogs don't smell it which has a tendency to happen they specially train a dog to sniff out drugs as if they were training it to seek after its toy. So what officers will usually do is say something like "go get it boy" to make them believe their "toy" is in there which would stir them up regardless of the smell...that right there leads to probable cause and because you gave them such a hard time they will more than likely search your car extremely thoroughly. The best way around something like this is to find a really really good hiding spot, like inside the dashboard, or a speaker. Something that takes a lot of thought into. Generally hiding it in really low or high areas makes it harder for dogs to sniff out. Place it in there before you drive that way if you get pulled over just act as cool as possible, DON'T SMOKE A CIGARETTE, or agitate your legs or anything like that. They read body language like that. And if it gets down to the point where they ask if they can search your car its waay better to consent because more than likely they will just do a minor search and move on. Sounds a lot better than getting the K-9 unit out there and giving it a really good search. That constitutional right bullshit would never hold up in court....such a sad aspect in this country.