Stinky's Crash Course in "nOOb Hydro"... Welcome to the Darkside

Oh dear god I am so lost.......:( Looks GREAT.....even the back of the head looks good. :) I'm glad you were off doing something useful this weekend instead of your usual marijuana hijinks. :D :jointsmile: :stoned:

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

Oh dear god I am so lost.......

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Repeat after me:
Modified Vertical Containerized NFT... Or whatever term you want to give it. I prefer "That thing I just built to avoid hauling dirt up and down the damn stairs all winter".
It was a very productive weekend! The chick my have her own power tools, but it's nice to have a Chronnisaur around to help build shit.

Yes....sometimes better than a good draft horse.....but NEVER better than a tractor (GOT YOU CHRON!! HA :S2:)

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

Yes....sometimes better than a good draft horse....

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..quoth Empress Catherine the Great...

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Originally Posted by stinkyattic

..quoth Empress Catherine the Great...

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AGGG! I may be old but not THAT old.....:S2:

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

AGGG! I may be old but not THAT old.....

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"Alone Time" with ones 'mount' is ageless! I just appreciate that modern women can appreciate the effect of a tractor just as well of better, particularly if the engine is not in good repair and the thing vibrates excessively....

Yeah I know some guys who do that too.....;) :D

since you have that up in your kitchen, can i have an order of egg's over easy, sausage (links unless you have some real sausage then i will take that) wheat toast, oj, and coffee with cream and sugar.......

You'll have to be satisfied with kielbasa.
I DO live in the Pioneer Valley after all!
And the system is no longer in my kitchen, silly!

Yeah....it's now back out with the spa......lunch orders? :D

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Originally Posted by whatsthatsmell

since you have that up in your kitchen, can i have an order of egg's over easy, sausage (links unless you have some real sausage then i will take that) wheat toast, oj, and coffee with cream and sugar.......

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...that is NO JOKE... I'm not sure if she's a better cook or cultivator!

So Stink, when ya gonna fill that biatch? Still 4 (?) left? Anymore hydroton 'dam-age'?
... I'll just leave the 'bad engine, excessive vibration thing over my head where it belongs:D

Sup Hound?

I've got 3 more pumps (correct size) coming this week, and need just 2 more pails and air pumps and that beast will be full.

Smelly-The-Dog decided to have some clones for a midnight snack last night though... so I will have to use some runty ones.

Thanks Chron! Hey if I've got company you can be SURE that company is going to leave a couple pounds heavier than they showed up... Here's a bong, here's a pile of food, let's see what you can do.

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Yeah....it's now back out with the spa......lunch orders?

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ok, for lunch, i want a REAL rueben, with homemade potato chips, a dill pickle, with makers mark on the rocks and a tall glass of sweet tea.... for desert, i will take vanilla 2 layer cake with strawberry filling and chocolate frosting and side of french vanilla ice cream

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Originally Posted by whatsthatsmell

ok, for lunch, i want a REAL rueben, with homemade potato chips, a dill pickle, with makers mark on the rocks and a tall glass of sweet tea.... for desert, i will take vanilla 2 layer cake with strawberry filling and chocolate frosting and side of french vanilla ice cream

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One peanut butter sandwich coming up.....;)

Stinky that is EXACTLY what I do with company also....here's a pair of muck boots, here's a manure fork...let's see what you can do. :wtf: Don't get alot of return company for some reason.....:(

Chron....aren't you a sweetie for helping with all that. :thumbsup: Could use you my way if you know how to handle a tractor...:D

Well this is day five of my hydro experiment and I'm having to drop the pH twice a day. I've been brining it down around 5.8 and daily it creeps back up into the 7s. The plants aren't terrribly happy as you can imagine, but no mortality yet. Teh system appears to be working though.

:rasta::rastasmoke:Hey stinky I just read all of this log and would a ebb&flow with hydroton filled up all the way in the tray and just plant the clones in the hydroton like you would in soil in a sog style. If you want you could still add the drip to it and it will be a drip plus ebb&flow. Oh yeah and its reusable. Less moving parts to.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

me to just found your thread stinky this grow will be fun it mite even turn you to the darkside full time lol everything your doing is spot on.
goodluck.:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Stinky....are you using hydroton? If so....that's probably where your ph issues are coming from......drove me crazy and I finally had to switch to something else (or BACK to something else as it were.....)

Yeah, I'm in hydroton- I should have just run the system with no plants for a couple days first- the pH appeared to completely stabilize over the past 24 hours. When I got up this morning, it was right where I'd left it.

I just picked up a set of Canna Aqua A+B anyway; it's buffered in the right range... a little more security there.

Anyway day 7 of the experiment and I can report:

-The plants are still alive.
-pH is stable (knock on wood).
-It has only overflowed twice, and hasn't fallen through the living room ceiling yet...

May I say it's an unqualified success? HAHAHA sometimes it's nice to have low expectations... :jointsmile:

I don't know.....I've honestly tried that......running the system with just hydroton and it never helped me any. I never did find the answer to the stuff. :( Glad it seems to have straightened out.:thumbsup:

Only overflowed twice eh? You're right.....that is a much better record than say.....every day or even TWICE a day so...ummm....yes.....what a plus. :wtf:

Whats causing that problem...can you pinpoint it?

Simple. I dropped a bunch of pebbles into the leach tray, and they occasionally work their way down to the outflow and block the opening, which is only 1/2"- perfect size for a HT pebble to block!

i see......another case of operator error vs mechanical failure......shame humans have to be involved at all.....shame.....:D

Hey Stinky, a nOOb to the board but not a new grower... how often will you change nutes in your res?

I have a similar grow going (HT, hydro, indica - but a DWC bubbler + wick) and the girls are drinking a gallon a day. I have 6 plants in a 10-gal container that I run with 5-gal of nutes changed weekly, topped off when it drops to the 3-gal mark.

I am trying to cut down on hauling water all the time... what is your opinion on how frequently to top off vs. how often to replace and refill? Blurry pics = camera phone...

MVP
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I don't know about you guys but I have a single DWC setup in a 5 gallon bucket for 1 plant and I didn't change the nutes throughout veg which will end at 8 am oct 14 for a total of about 5 1/2 weeks.

Personally....I LIKE changing my res...my plants take a lovely jump everytime I put fresh nutes in.....I can actually tell the next day so I change nutes alot...and recirculate them as well to keep everything in the best shape I can. ;)

I agree WH, a weekly change is working for me but I'm looking for input from others on when they have found it is best interval for nute changes.

The only drawback right now is that the flowers are so heavy they are falling over; I thought I staked it well enough halfway into blooom, but I'm finding out I didn't...

...so how's the grass on THIS side of the fence?...Damn, it's dark in here:wtf:

So I believe I'm giving in to these uncontrollable urges to play with all this hydroton I've got laying around. This is all off the record, but once the 2 TL x MTFs finish (4 weeks), I'll have alot more space under a K hps that was lent to me by a very wonderful friend of mine;)

My reasoning:

1.) Numbers dont lie. I am all about efficiency.

2.)49% of my desire to cultivate is the 'hobby' in itself. To recreate an optimal environment for such a beautiful plant is what I would call,...umm...my pleasure.:D

3.) The amount of weed I consume for what I consider to be 'medical reasons', just yesterday, left me purchasing pearlite with quarters:wtf:

4.) ...my house is dirty enough.


....damn!

I think you'd do very well Chron....and wouldn't be dropping bits and pieces down into the system. :D

Don't suppose you have photos of the grow you've got going now....we'd love to see.

To answer the res questions, this isn't a DWC grow so I'm not sure how that info would apply- I had planned to change the res weekly and top up with pH'd water daily.

WH- Yes, operator error. Problem lies between keyboard and chair.

Chron- Look at you, so easily seduced by the Dark Side. Shame. :D I'ma head over to chat...

Thanks ... most hydro grows have commonalities, IMHO, so I felt the love in the answer :D

:rasta:Hey stinky I wanted to ask you the Bog strain you have where did you order it I just recently purchased some Bogglegum from bc bud depot. Is it the real BOG genetics or just someone growing his stuff and selling his seeds as Bog. Oh yeah they still havent gotten here yet.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

Mastergrown Seeds was authorized to do a run of Bogglegum F2s which were sold on seedbay last year, but that is the only authorized BOG stuff I'm personally aware of- not to say it doesn't exist- I got my BOG stuff at Sacred Seed but they don't ship, I had to drive to Toronto from Massachusetts... hahaha quite a nice vacation actually; I went via Madison WI and Escanaba (?) ON... on the Ninja. Boy, was my ass ever sore after that one!

Well I also have an update on the system. I TOTALLY mangled the roots putting the plants in there and after a day or so they all looked dead or very nearly so, but as long as there's a green growing tip I don't consider a plant a loss... so I left them. The first to make a full recovery was a unknown cross of two unknown plants from a BOG mix pack. IT has since turned into a volleyball-sized globe of greenery. The others don't look so hot still but are STILL ALIVE!!! And all but one appear to have recovered.

I also switched to the Canna Aqua a+b, since it's buffered better fro hydro, and the cornucopia seems beautifully suited to soil. I'm a lazy bum and finally got around to my first res change this morning. lol.

I just can't believe the hardiness of this plant. My temps are in the 90s, I bused the clones transplanting them, tortured them with wild pH fluctuations, and they are STILL hanging on!

Oh and the specific BOG stuff I hold at the moment is:
-Bogglegum (male)
-SourBubble (both male and female)
-Unknown bushy mix female
-A couple crosses
-Black Indica (male and unsexed) which is actually Plan B gear but Bushy's got a hand in that project and the BI really falls in line wiht the hardiness and noob-resistance of his older work.

If anyone is growing his stuff and selling unauthorized seeds, I'd post about it over at ICMag. The guy deserves more respect than that!

Jesus.....you drove all over for the seeds? Wow...I'm impressed. :thumbsup:

I'm less impressed with the mangled roots however. You are starting to sound suspiciously like me.....what's up with that?? :wtf:

...Ya should've seen her,...all giddy like a schoolgirl, throwin' baby plants around like crazy person...:wtf:
I told her it was not gonna help to PUCH the roots into the hydroton, but she just wouldnt listen!:D

...no, actually I was quite impressed at the quality and efficiency of her work! Not too damn shabby, for a giddy schoolgirl:thumbsup:

Why are temps in the 90's in the middle of October?

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

Why are temps in the 90's in the middle of October?

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GLOBAL WARMING! That seems to explain everything.

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

Why are temps in the 90's in the middle of October?

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I think she adjusted her exhaust according to season, and quite honestly, the season hasnt been very compromising...rather it HAS, compromised for a 92 dg. am with a 29 dg. pm!...I'm feeling effects today to the tune of 8-10 degrees more than 'normal', putting me around 85-87 after a consistent week of 76-79.:wtf:
Location is a key factor, because no matter how much ventilation you have, if mother nature says fuck you, ...she means fuck you!:(

On the other hand I'm far more anal than most about heat just for the simple fact that I personally HATE anything above 80 degrees myself. I may smack dem biatches around every now and again, but it's only cuz pimpin' aint as easy as I make it look, and although ATM I'm fixin' to come upside they heads, It dont sttle no ribs to see dem bitches sweatin'...just aint what the playas is lookin' fo ya dig?:cool:

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ummmm....no i'm afraid not. And I sincerely mean that. :cool: And I'm sorry I asked. And I sincerely mean THAT. :D

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Originally Posted by Chronisseur

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...no, actually I was quite impressed at the quality and efficiency of her work! Not too damn shabby, for a giddy schoolgirl

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I'm glad I have entertainment value :wtf:
Schoolgirl? hahahaha

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

Why are temps in the 90's in the middle of October?

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Al Gore said something about fossil fuels and the greenhouse effect but I wasn't listening....

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Originally Posted by Chronisseur

I think she adjusted her exhaust according to season, and quite honestly, the season hasnt been very compromising...rather it HAS, compromised for a 92 dg. am with a 29 dg. pm!..... if mother nature says fuck you, ...she means fuck you!

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Oh, hahahahahaha Chrons in fine form today. But yeah, I rearranged my exhaust configuration to account for a spell of very cold nights we had a week ago- vented into my bedroom rather than outdoors- and then BOOM outdoor temps are back up into the 80s again!! WTF. Anyway....

This is great seeing so much action on the log, just like old times... ahhh! I feel like I should update.

I got all sassy and ordered a bunch of drip stakes for the girls. They told me they wanted the FANCY showerheads in their locker room, so I got those 6" blue emitter stakes for 25 cents each. They should be in today and I'll take pics later.