I'm trying to defy the odds...but

By the looks of my plants,they are doing 100 x better,so I guess ph is VERY important.For now on..I check my ph at least 4 times a day.They seem to be hungry little creatures.2 days ago I added 150ppm cal-mag,290ppm veg food,10ppm of baking soda(ph was at 4.8)which brought me to a total of 450ppm,today when I checked the res it was sitting at 380ppm so they eat fast and they eat a lot...As for the question about having 9 plants in a 3 gal bucket, I'm not that good in cloning and one time I remember just growing one plant,Man that plant got huge,I let it veg for almost 2 months(it was a beast)it was about 3 ft high and about 5 feet across,everytime I looked at it,my mouth would water because I thought I was going to get about 2 to 3 pounds off of that plant,enough for me to never have to depend on a shady character on the street again.So one day I decided to do the flower thing,then it happened!It was a boy!So now I am taking a different approach.Everytime I check for the ph and tds I untangle the roots (which isn't a very hard job)I will start flowering soon to weed out the males,then I will go back into veg.Can I start now (flowering to determine males?)...Since changing the res 2 days ago,I have added 1 drop of ph down...when I did my morning test I was sitting at 4.6 and 370ppm,I added a pinch of baking soda,now I am sitting at 380ppm 5.6

They do look much better....good. If they are knocking the ppms down that fast then Cyclonite is right and its time to up their chow.

I was taught by my hydro man to use 50/50 CalMag and grow nutes up until you turn them to 12/12. So if you put them on 600....300 would be CalMag and 300 grow nutes. I'd try the six hundred and see how they do.

They look much better but I'd probably give them a week to recover from all the excitement and get a little more nutrition under their belts before you turn them.

These plants are fantastic!It seems like when growing,there is always "something" else to buy.I have an oakton ph meter.I got it last year,I didn't replace the probe yet,and I am getting funky readings.When I test my water,it will say (ie...)5.8 and then after a couple of seconds it will flip to 2.5 and then it will alternater between 5.8 and 2.5.I am thinking that I may need to replace the probe....50.00!Have anyone else had this problem?This ro water seems to acidify the longer it sits.My plants are incredibly hungry and thirsty creatures.I added about 2 gallons of ro water since changing the res last week...bought my ppm down to a 150.So I added 150ppm cal-mag and some food which brought my ppm up to 530.When I change out the res on friday I will up the ppm to 700.Must get ready for work now

They're looking really good.....yes, sounds like you need to replace your probe. You can buy some very inexpensive ph testers at your pet store for aquariums (NO fish ph adjusters....only testers for fish ok) and keep them as a quick back up and calibration set.

Oh yeah, there's ALWAYS something else to buy. :thumbsup: Have fun. :)

PS...keep your ppms up to the correct level and the plants will grow faster and be happier. (when you add water add your nutes and adjust ph to it first) ;)

I just reread something else you posted....putting them into flower and then re-vegging them will cost you about a month of time with them going back and forth and I dont know if the stress could cause problems later so I'd think about that for awhile to be sure you want to put the time and energy into that.

I think you may be a little iron deficient in those last pics.
What are you doing for micronutes? I'd give them a foliar feed a couple times with some GH micro mixed according to instructions, or another micro supplement like Algoflash.

hey stinky attic,Did you see the pic with my "tools".That's all I have.I don't know what Gh nutes are.Does that stand for "general hydroponic?"I don't want to use a "3" part fert.Isn't my powder fert any good?As for the micronutes,my fert says that it contains all of the micronutes I need.Plus,Thanks to weedhound I am using RO water.I think it would be cheaper for me to just buy a system,Might look on Ebay for one.My growshop sells 2 kind,One for 199.99 and the other for 299.00.Both are spendy,Just when I thought the lights were going to the last expensive thing I will need!!!So I will shop around ebay for one,Give me some examples of a cheap but good Ro system.I must start flowering soon!

I haven't "seen" you guys in a couple of days and I am here to update.First,I went and got a new probe for my ph meter.made a hell of a difference!I had to go into flowering,I thought I would be able to keep the roots from getting tangled,there is no way.They grow too fast.I am starting to think,maybe I shouldn't have put 9 plants in that 3 gal bucket.2 plants died.Leaves me with 7.The 2 died because of my laziness and carelessness.The water evaporates at a swift pace.I was down to about 350ppm when I decided to start flowering.It wasn't time to change the res so I added 300ppm of cal-mag and flower food with more ro water.I do have a question though.I notice Cal-mag label states "2-0-0"...So is this good to use throughout flowering or should I switch to something else? Here are some pics from today.2nd day of flowering

DONT LOOK SICKLY NOW DO THEY!!!! :thumbsup: Well, I can see why when you had those sad little pups you thought they'd be controllable. HA!

If you use R/o or distilled water.....you need your CalMag. All the way through. :)

I'm really starting to understand this PH/PPM thing.I've notice that when I top off or make new solution,My ph starts at about 5.4.It drops to 4.6-4.7 everytime.Ro Water,Cal-Mag,flower food.So now I decided to start the ph at 6.1 and see if I will end up with 5.2.I won't know until I check tonight when it will be "daytime" .I use regular hydro flower food,it's a powder.What are the advantages of the 3-part fert compared to the kind I use?what other suppliments should I buy during my flowering phase?

Honestly I've only used one type of hydro nutes from the very beginning (botanicare pro blend products) so I'm really NO help about 3 part nutes. I've heard very good things about the results of using KoolBloom but seriously all I know about it is the name of the product.....never used that one either. :(

sorry......:(

This is the 5th day of flowering and there isn't any sign of any type of flowers,Everyday I am starting to realize that 9 plants in a 3 gallon bucket was absurd!I will never do that again!3 would be the max!5.9 840ppm.Here are some pics from yesterday and today

LOL!!!! Now you know its absurd.....guy....can I ask you something honestly.....this is not a dis but I really want to know. Back when I asked you...I'm pretty sure I said something about that not being a good idea.....what made you discard that information?
Again....I'm really NOT trying to be mean.....ie......what can I say to the next guy like you that will get him not to do that? Does that question make sense?

PS They are looking stunning.....fucking stunning..... GREAT job. :thumbsup:

Ps....Can take up to 14 days to show preflowers.....;)

Weeshound,I don't take that as a diss...at all.I listened to what you were saying but the damage was already done.Once,I grew one plant.I gave it all my love and attention,it turned out to be a male.So I told myself,"this time it won't happen,I have 9 of them"That was the 2nd dumbest thing to do (the dumbest thing is planting one plant).I will tell the next person willing to put more than 3 plants in a 3 to5 gallon bucket...good luck,you will need it.Lesson learned weedhound

Thanks....you are not the only one who's done it.....I had to laugh at the size your little "babies" now....they have become quite the monsters.. :) I remember being pretty amazed by how much mine grew on my first grow too. :thumbsup:

Any idea what strain it is?

Well 3 of the plants were seeds from the Best herb I ever had...as for the rest of them,your guess is just as good mine.Can I just make up a name?...I think I will call them "raspberry mutt-dro x2"...lol

I have good news and bad news...First the bad,I will have to sacrifice one plant because it is damaged.It never recovered from the early transplant.It is so small,therefore light doesn't reach it too well compared to the other plants.Despite everything I've been told my 2nd biggest plant is a girl!Ialways thought males showed first.This plant is one of the two that my friend started...I really didn't have too much hope for the two she started because she started them in dirt,in my previous grow...when I tried placing dirt plants in my bubbler,I would get the slimy roots.Not this time.I really need to figure out how to make a bubble cloner now

ok,I haven't spoke to you guys in a while,Well first of all,I was curious to how a "hermi" looked.I saw how one looked firsthand!I couldn't believe it!I started with 9 plants,I think 2 died of natural causes and ignorance combined,3 were confimed males,1was a hermi.That left me with 3 confirmed females in a black 5 gal bucket.Current stats 1010 ppm 5.6.about 18 days in flower.Should I get some better flower food than what I have because when added with the cal-mag I have 12 30 18,is my nitrogen too high compared to my "P & K?":greenthumb:

Got some pretty girls going there....good work. :thumbsup: What are you using for your bloom nutes?

hydrofarm bloom nutrient 10-18-30,cal-mag 2-0-0

Day 27 of flowering,I have this stuff called "monster bloom" 0-50-30.I added almost 800 ppm to my rez,I didn't add any of my regular flower food.My question is...Am I supposed to add this "monster bloom" with my cal-mag and flower food? Here are some pics from this morning

any idea,how many days left ...note:I do not want the "couch lock" effect.Even while smoking,I have to be productive,so I will need a "clear" high.about 18 more days perhaps?