What about Bill Richardson from NM? I'd DEF trust the country I live in in his hands....
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What about Bill Richardson from NM? I'd DEF trust the country I live in in his hands....
To Burnable: The problem with that thinking is that they often suddenly turn into a different person when they get into office. For example, how do you know FOR SURE that Al Gore would have actually been better than Bush? They're really ALMOST the same. So if everyone who voted for Bush or Gore instead of their real pic, had voted for their actual guy anyways, maybe Gore WOULD have gotten it, or maybe something wild and crazy like Nader winning could have happened (Assuming that he actually had a major underground following within the two biggest parties.)
Okay, I just came up with my dream law that would be highly unconstitutional and I would never ever do it even if I had the power.
Promotion of front-runners in election campaigns for no other reason than that they are front-runners is hereby prohibited under penalty of a flagpole wedgie.
Theri are lots in favor of legalization however most are wierd and think that things wiil fix them selevs once herb is leagal..............my vot is for this guy and hes for herb too
The Bill Richardson File - SantaFeNewMexican.com
Note** Ron Paul is Pro Life. he also opposses same sex adoption
Just stating the facts
and also, while he is against the War on Drugs- he isn't "pro-marijuana" and he is against stem cell research. He's seems like a cool guy for a republican, but i think we should be careful not to jump to the conclusion that he is the solution to america's problems
The point is that he doesn't believe the federal government should enforce a particular view, unless it is specifically in the Constitution. That's why he's such a spectacular choice, he doesn't try to be Mr. Morality and try and ban whatever someone wants to do. He leaves all that authority to the states, which is where it should be in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by redhotstoner
Excellent posts burnable.
As far as intellectual discipline and multi-perspective critical thinking goes, thats not just the best I've seen on this forum but about as good as it gets on any internet forum. Big ups on your high-level operating.
:D
i wish i could vote... im gonna get all my friends to vote for RON PAUL
Wow. I have been thinking the same thing for the past six months, but I couldn't put it into words like that. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tea Party
Also, I would like to point out that Ron Paul said the drug laws should be decided at the local level, not even the states, which means each one of us would have a million times more say over the laws.
:smokin: thanks so much for posting this info.... now i have someone to root for :yippee:
Dave, we are already doomed!!!!!!! We have been doomed since William Randolph Hearst and Anslinger created this Reefer Madness Universe that has taken our liberties away. That is what we are trying to fix. I find your posts too ridiculous to take you seriously. I do not believe you actually care about America, or you would not criticize a serious freedom fighter for not being worthy enough to be President. You assume we are voting for Ron Paul because of one issue alone, and urge us to be mature and not throw away our vote on one issue alone, while at the same time posting that you have just "fucked this thread in it's sphincter." I say this out of love, Dave: Grownups are talking here, please go back to the children's table. Leave your weed on the counter. You can have it back when you grow up.Quote:
Originally Posted by DemoCommando
The War on Drugs is both a symbol of the current illegality of personal freedom in America, and its concrete counterpart in the real day-to-day lives of its citizens. The prison industry and pharmaceutical industry, and the State run media are our biggest threats to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness...and our lack of freedom in America is responsible for so many global issues, it ain't funny...so to me, decriminalization of all drugs is the largest issue around. When we are allowed our freedom once again, we will be able to have the breathing room to love our country again and solve other critical problems.
It is absurd that you think Ron Paul is only on about Marijuana, but you are correct in assuming that Ron Paul is a one issue man. You are right indeed: he believes in serving the constitution so that it may serve us. And if you watch the debates, which I doubt you do, you will see that he destroys all comers like the cardboard cutouts they are. Plus, he is a doctor and he is rational and stable and sure of himself. I don't see these qualities in any other candidate except for Kucinich, a brilliant man, who unfortunately, is too short to be President of a modern, image conscious Unites States (I know, I have been short all of my life, and people do not take short men seriously)...but he is not too short to be V.P.:D We need smart, brilliant, honest people to lead us out of what we are in.
And as far as Bill Richardson goes: Nice guy...but he looks a little timid and afraid for the job. At the end of the day, I base my vote on:Ron and Dennis are the only two in the race that fit these requirements for me.
- What have you done?
- What are you doing?
- Are you acting up there, or are you walking the walk?
- When you talk about the American public, do you come across as though you were a member of the American public yourself, or as a conquering hero from without?
- Are you suspicious of your citizens, or do you trust us and want us to improve ourselves?
- Do you have confidence in what you stand for and in your ability to carry it out?
- Do you put in the work and truly care, or are you an actor up on that stage?
Watch the Tavis Smiley hosted Republican debate on Youtube, the one where none of the Media Republicans even showed up because they know they have no chance of pulling Americanized African voters. If you watch those debates and still believe Ron Paul is not qualified to lead America, then you, my friend, are not qualified to be an American, and I will kindly ask you to leave. There is the door.
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Bill, is that you there with the New Mexican flag? Horatio Sands wants you to win to!Quote:
Originally Posted by MadSativa
Ron Paul is not weird. He is a doctor and U.S. congressman who believe in the constitution of the United States of America. Bill Richardson would make an excellent drug Czar in the Paul Whitehouse.
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Note** Ron Paul is Pro Life. he also opposses same sex adoption
Just stating the facts
- Ron Paul is a doctor who brings babies into the world. Of course he is Pro Life. That does not mean that he would overturn Roe V. Wade. While I am a liberal, I am beginning to be Pro-Life myself. I mean, I used to have a "Save Roe V. Wade" bumper sticker on my car...I would not appose abortions for rape victims, but if you are not responsible enough to pack birth control, then you better strap on that papoose daddy-o! You're a parent.
- Same sex adoptions...I would gladly let him slide on that 1999 vote if if all of the political prisoners of the drug war were released from prison. They can then be filled by accidental parents who would be taught how to raise the children they would have aborted...besides, he has voted NO on the banning of same-sex marriages.
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Originally Posted by redhotstoner
People seem to want a President that is perfect. Nobody is perfect for everybody. Look here to see if Ron Paul fits into your way of thinking.
- Who cares if he is or is not pro marijuana. Do you want to force him to smoke all day in the oval office. He's got important shit to do. The point is: he won't bust your door down because You want to get high! First and foremost, he wants to bring back the constitution, and a big part of that it the end the drug war and the patriot act. You know, I am not pro Opiate, but if you are into them and can keep from injuring me while you are high, I am not going to want to see you in prison for life!
- Ron Paul does not oppose the States and private citizens research of stem cells. He opposed the government forcing taxpayers to foot the bill for it.
- He is not a Republican...not that there is anything wrong with that. He is a Libertarian running on the Republican ticket.
I only just heard of Ron Paul 2 weeks ago when a friend preached his views to me over a few dozen beers. The issue he primarily touted about was the legalization of marijuana stance, so i refrained from taking him too seriously because there are many other issues in America today we need to be concerned with.
I just spent 3 hours reading documents and watching video clips of Ron Paul and his position on all issues of the candidacy. At this moment I am definetely voting for the man. Marijuana legalization is not the only issue that makes his views intriguing. I'm not one to ever get into political debates because in my experience they're about as useless as religious ones, but I pray that his messages are heard as mainstreamed as the top-runners.
The fact that the GOP and certain media branches try to cover his attention makes his messages all the more appealing and necessary to hear. It's possible that he's just saying what he thinks he needs to say to grab attention, but his history doesnt reflect that.
I hope that people understand that when he speaks of the Middle East attacking us because of our antagonistic ways, they realize that he is not putting that on the American people....Govt POLICY is the force that contributed to it. "Strong" republican candidates will spin that into Ron Paul's unpatriotic message.
The American people don't have to disagree with decisions Govt, or any branch of power makes, but we should always question it.
on the issue with Ron Paul being Pro-Life .... I myself am Pro Choice but am still voting for RP. I commend Ron Pauls stance on pro life simply because he is making his decision based his life experiences of being a Doctor. THAT I can respect....not these religious idiots running who make their choices based on their god
also, someone on here said ron only raised 2million last quarter....it was actually over 5
and I think we need some clarification....correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think RP is pro legalization only for medicinal purposes not for recreation.
also, if you all haven't seen the video of Mit Romney being asked a question about marijuana by a guy in a wheel chair who has MS I suggest you find it....it's one piece of a larger pie which shows what a moron he is.
and to the people that say wake up he'll never win - I'm sorry, I refuse to waste my vote and my breath on the lesser of two evils. I'm going to vote and support who I WANT. If I dont, then it defeats the purpose of freedom. I refuse to let who has the most campaign money and the most mainstream media attention sway my decision. We've been forced to make a decision based on what the higher powers view as who are the top candidates for far too long
I hope Ron Paul wins! I was eating at my favorite pizza place last night called Mellow Mushroom (wonderful pizza) and its kind of like a hippie place which is awesome! But anyways they have a vote for Ron Paul sign and so I thought I would just say that because I thought it was awesome.
A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for LEGALIZATION! :thumbsup:
Sometimes, the beauty of what America could be shines through to me when I read other people's comments. It would be amazing. Wow, my eyes are actually watering. It's sad, the state it is in compared to what could have been. I will vote for Ron Paul, even if I am the only American to do so.
Are you joking? Hillary Clinton is one of the largest recipients of health care industry contributions. Who do you think is really behind all this pressure to close down co-ops and end medical marijuana? A president speaking to God? Fuck no, that's just what he is there for you to assume, it's what it's always about, money. The health care industry cannot have people growing their own medicine, it would cost them too much. With Clinton in their pocket, I will guarantee that medical marijuana raids will not end with her in office as president!Quote:
Originally Posted by MajMike
I encourage everyone to subscribe to Ron Paul's youtube videos and find out what he is all about, you can't just go about thinking what he is for and what he is against, you have to find out why he supports one thing, and not another. This is true for any candidate, but for most candidates the reasons are almost always simple, however, Ron Paul is not a simple candidate, the guy actually thinks for himself rather than thinks for poll position.
I would never vote for Ron Paul simply for his views on drug legalization, I feel there are far more important things going on than that to be a core reason for choosing one candidate over another, but the more I heard him talk the more I realized that as crazy as some of the things he says sound, really, it all makes perfect sense. The main reason he isn't so popular is because he is so different from what we are used to expect from a candidate, we have become so used to a cookie cutter image, that we have allowed ourselves to expect that in future candidates rather than be open to new thinking, which is exactly what we need right now!
I don't give a rats ass how far of a shot he has at becoming president, I'm still voting for him. Why would I vote for someone else that I don't really agree with, but simply because they are more popular? That's just stupid, and a waste of a vote. If you aren't going to put any thought into who you choose for president, maybe you shouldn't be voting to begin with.
What about Chris Dodd? He's for the decriminalization of marijuana and he also has a good energy plan, is for the quick withdrawal of troops form Iraq, and he is doing a lot to defend the constitution right now (something this current administration has absolutely no respect for). He doesn't get much face time like Hillary and Obama, but I'm sick and tired of the media picking our candidates for us. If you agree with his ideas, spread the word about him. I think he's a much better candidate than any of the DNC frontrunners; they are very unclear on issues.
I usually enjoy what you post, and I don't know why you would be banned, except for maybe being underage, and if that's the case you're extremely precocious and mature. But aren't these comments about kucinich kind of consistent with the mentality of avoiding voting for someone based on the influential perception that others have? It would be like not voting for RP because people think he's too old or too radical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tea Party
Ron Paul is sweet; I was even more impressed with him after seeing him on jay leno.
I'd like to be pro-life, but the world is way too overpopulated. I think if abortion helps curb that, go for it. I think there is a grander cause in stabilizing existing population than defending the right to live of yet another potential human, as magnanimous an effort as it is. I tend to vacillate between the two sides of the argument, but that's where I currently am
Ron Paul is the only good choice. No candidate is perfect, but he is the perfect candidate for our country at this point in time. I am wholeheartedly supporting him and I hope you all will too, if you'd like to see your favorite herb legalized and some sanity restored to Washington DC.
lol at the previous posts in response to this quote ^Quote:
Originally Posted by king of the world
no where in this quote did he say he would not vote for him, i gathered he is merely stating that there is a reallly slim chance of the majority of the american population following the policies Ron paul wants to put in place.
We are a minority ! for now ;)
Corrrecct!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganj
also America might get some respect from the rest of the world.......
in a bit.
marijuana legalization is not the most important issue I have with selecting a presidential candidate, the most important to me is foreign policy. This doesn't just mean someone screaming to get out of Iraq, it means someone who actually understands why we are where we are at today, and why and how we should conduct ourselves in the future.
I use to think of Ron Paul as some nut saying whatever crazy thing he can to get some attention because he is far behind in the polls, but the more I started actually watching his videos and finding out what he is really made of, the more I realized that he is the most sane candidate of any of them, and the only one that doesn't answer questions like he's some robot with pre-recorded answers.
I've always felt I leaned more on the conservative side, but Ron Paul seems to be the first republican that isn't some right wing Christian nut job. The more I hear him talk about different issues, the more I find myself agreeing with his points, I can't say this about any other candidate, democrat or republican.
I decided a few months ago to vote for Ron Paul for many reasons, liberty being the main one.
Listen to the NORML podcast of Ron Paul.Quote:
Originally Posted by FireTheft
YouTube - Ron Paul interviewed on NORML (part 1 of 2)
He said marijuana laws should be left up to local regulations if that. He wants to end the War on Drugs, which we all know, is a war on us. They just don't kill us, they just throw us in jail.
Dude, no, you can't vote for Ron Paul... I don't know what it is, man, but it can't be good. I've got this feeling... This really bad feeling about it. He appeals to too many... He holds the majority... it can't be good...
Im sorry i dont mean to bash anyone, I'm just really high right now and can't think any other way. I'l come back after I've come down and thought it over a bit.
you do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by UCI-James
Thatā??s great, but he has zero chance of even getting the nomination.
Ok, so, after having come down and thought about it...
GO RON PAUL! WOOT!
"Thatā??s great, but he has zero chance of even getting the nomination."
If everybody thought like you(I'm not voting for him, he'll never get elected)we'll never see a change!!
Ok I just want to say something about the "No child left behind act"
This act is 100% bullshit. When I was in school this came around...
I am 25 now but it is complete bullshit...
When my brother was in 8th grade hes a senior now. he busted his ASS to make grades so mom wouldnt beat his ass but kids who dont bust their ass and FAIL get the good ole "No child left behind" and pushed onto the next grade without doing SHIT!
Kids should HAVE to PASS ALL their classes AND STATE TESTS till they can go on to the next grade...
And maybe parents would learn that beating their children is what they need sometimes (Not violent beating just the kind that teaches discipline)
Ron Paul is a real American
Mellow Mushroom RocksQuote:
Originally Posted by weedmant
Yeah. The government will no longer regulate the economy, Federal power will be limited, Homeland Security will be gone, IRS will be gone, Taxes will go way down, Death Penalty will be gone, Commercial Space Trips, Marlboro Marijuana Joints, and free candy on Tuesdays. It isnā??t gonna happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarijuanaIsMyName
Oh and he isnā??t in favor of legalization. He is in favor of letting states decided what to do instead of the government.
I'm sure there were many people like you saying "No way, they will hang for what they are doing, it will never work!", when our founding fathers decided to rebel and become free. It is also very foolish to only choose the most popular candidate, that type of weak voting can only elect a weak president.Quote:
Originally Posted by greg23
I joined this forum just to reply to this thread. First off, I'd like to say that I am sincerely delighted to have an intelligent conversation with people who can form coherent sentences.
One of the largest myths being perpertrated by our Government is that cannabis kills brain cells. The majority of posters in this thread has just destroyed this myth. I believe that cannabis should be legalized. Absolutely. I honestly believe in the principles that Ron Paul has addressed. He makes alot of sense, and is actually an articulate, intelligent person unlike our current leader. I will be voting for him without a shadow of a doubt come November '08.
Currently, our economy is in a major slump. If you do not believe me, just go to XE.com and check for yourself. Compare the strength of the dollar today against the strength of the dollar from Jan 1, '99. We are currently in debt 9 trillion dollars... That's 9,000,000,000,000. Yes, 12 zeros. Most of this debt is to China and Saudi Arabia. This so called "War on Drugs" and "War on Terrorism" is majorly contributing to this ever-increasing national debt. If we reduce our government spending on needless things, our debt would be reduced drastically. How important is it that a professional basketball player is payed $100 Million dollars to play a sport, whereas our military servicemen and women are barely paid enough to support their families? Many of our servicemen and women collect food stamps and WIC. Did you all know that? Probably not. I personally know because I've served my Country and completed my military obligation to Her.
If cannabis is legalized, it would mean that hemp would also be legalized. There are numerous benefits to this happening. So what, if they tax cannabis? I would gladly pay a tax for something I believe in, and in turn would help reduce national debt. We currently pay taxes for tobacco, alcohol, cars, etc...
It would be wonderful if you could grow 5 plants legally like they currently do in the Netherlands. I would gladly pay $100 annually for a grower's license as someone has previously mentioned. I guess that's enough rambling from me, but before I go I'd like to say the choice is ours to make. Let's get our Country back to being a Democracy. Happy Veteran's Day, brothers and sisters.
Hyperion
RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT! i've been heavily favoring him since i heard the slightest amount of his ideas from a youtube video i saw on him. now that i know he favors legalization, i hope a miracle comes true, that he becomes president.