Do you support a war against IRAN?

hmmm wonder if my post will be deleted cause of the word jew and kill in the same post ..... i wont hold back my thoughts after today, so you mods better be ready...LoL...im j/k i love you MODS

but for real i have not said anything imflammatory toward anyone just speakin the truth as i know it........im letting myself open for all attacks...come1 come alll


nope just me...that should be enough

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Hey palerider did you know the JEWS killed many many many people back in the dayz, cause GAWD said sooo./...what do you think about that....man you people really trying to justify this madmen in our government, what a shame!!!

yes that was oldtestament. with saul the first king and god did tell saul to take his army and kill everything from the other tribe.why because the other tribe was against god and would rather worship golden idols and false gods rather than him. and they were against the jews(gods chosen people).

and since the jews were gods chosen people he protected them even though they have turned there backs on god every time. until they needed him thats why only god can judge them. and he will in his time but it's not for anyone else to say.but i don't want to ramble on about that thats a whole nother issue.

god is not passive like churches would lead u to believe.he does believe in protecting his own.anyways i don't want to (bore u any longer)but i do believe it's gonna be people like u thats gonna be the down fall of this country. let me ask u this i take it u don't believe in god so the turn the other cheek sould'nt apply to u right as u don't believe in that right?and if u do believe then that whole turn the other cheek is been taken out of text for many years by churches and such i don't think god/jesus ment turn the other cheek and then take a bullet too. anyways so u don't believe in bush going to war or believe in protecting ourselfs so what if someone came up to u and hit u in the face with a bat u gonna walk away saying love not war?

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your're right Pakistan not our friend, just wait until them radicals take him out, then who will have a nuke, too scare palerider...lol

lmfao i don't get scared i get even and it's not being scared it's being ready for anything.lol u sound like the type that would bend over and take it like the passive person u seem to be.
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and isnt the arabs and jew brothers...then i come to another point...our forefather said we should never interfer with other nations...hence ISRAEL!!!! nope dont care about them people we are AMERICANS say it with me A M E R I C A N S, not jews not muslims...But AMERICANS. Hell i got spanish in me and Irish, i dont go claiming it, because im AMERICAN and DAMN PROUD of it...my point is why do we have people with duel-citizenship in control of our government, it should be ONLY AMERICANS and AMERICANS ONLY

And if the War On Terror was for real OUR BORDERS WOULD BE CLOSED

yes im american and when people like u seem to think theres nothin wrong with the big melting pot we have today. where every race and creed are allowed to come to the usa then we have to worry when sum of those people(muslim)that are hate mongers are here. and over seas promoting hate sounds like u are one of them.


with all the post u have yet to say anything useful

with all that american talk u keep doing u sure don't seem to give a shit about the thousands that died on 9/11 wow what a patriot!!!!!!!!!!!!! u sound like u want iran and others that hate the jews to destory them.so it's ok to kill jews but not muslim or anyone else that promotes war(iran muslim and others)that whole region has been at war for years way b4 the usa was ever here.

according to u we should dismantle our military i mean why would we need them?

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Originally Posted by Adrenaline Rush

Plain and simple. With the possibility of a war against IRAN on the horizon, would you support a WAR agaisnt IRAN?

Personally, I backed Bush on the war against IRAQ, regardless whether he was right or wrong. In the end, I realized that maybe it was a mistake, especially the way we left minimal amount of spurratic soldiers throughout the country of Iraq. I truly beleived that the war on Iraq should have been done and over with a long time ago.

Nevertheless, I would back the US in a war against IRAN for the simple fact that they have admitted to producing a nuclear program for other purposes other than military combat.

With all the terror attacks on the UN countries, I would not trust any arab country to sustain a nuclear program regardless as to what it's used for. So I would be for a war against IRAN.

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I don't support war in general. i think that there has to be wars on earth because people cant live their lives without conflict. a little conflict builds into bigger conflict, then sprouts war. There are some people in this world who are just all around evil, or devious in a way to harm others. war is unescapable in the world we live in.

It depends

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Originally Posted by eg420ne

Hey palerider did you know the JEWS killed many many many people back in the dayz, cause GAWD said sooo./...what do you think about that....man you people really trying to justify this madmen in our government, what a shame!!!

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Where'd you learn that fact...hamas mickey mouse??
P4B where's that vid??

Fucking pathetic...and I quote..

"..I couldn't do my homework because the jews came and destroyed my home and textbooks.." <--What THE FUCK:wtf:

It is no wonder why the arabs and Jews will never cease to disagree. And it will only get worse, as anti-semitism is the theme of some children's educational shows.

only thing iv'e ever seen (the jews)do is protect themselfs and there land i would do the same

Tell me is Iran a muslim country really a threat having nukes whereas Israel who already have nukes seem more of a threat as they all did fight against each other some time ago.

Also If Israel get nukes why not Iran, or Iraq a few years ago? tell me

My maths teacher used to be a nuclear technician on one of our subs. He told us that if any nukes were fired a country would recognise it coming an launch theirs. Stalemate. Therefore they can't really use it.

Even with nukes, any country fighting the US in a war is an automatic death sentence.

By nukes I mean the enrichment programs and the weapons.

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Originally Posted by palerider7777

with all that american talk u keep doing u sure don't seem to give a shit about the thousands that died on 9/11 wow what a patriot!!!!!!!!!!!!! u sound like u want iran and others that hate the jews to destory them.so it's ok to kill jews but not muslim or anyone else that promotes war(iran muslim and others)that whole region has been at war for years way b4 the usa was ever here.

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there is so much wrong with your knowledge, read up on the middle east and read up on the israeli occupation, the 67 war, the american assistance zyanists... and come back when your words make sense.

no im right and i know plenty.it's just jew haters like u is whats wrong.no matter what anybody says or does or even if u see it with your own eyes if it's something about a jew then u won't support it.so i could care less what u (think u know).im not saying there perfect like u or anything like that but rather protecting whats theres.

btw where do all u people that don't believe in war at any cost live cause i could rack up on sum stuff as i know u won't fight back. not really but it would'nt be hard too if sumone wanted too.and i suspect u people don't want cops working anymore either cause thats money the city can save i mean since we live in this dream world where everyone is peaceful.

lets go all the way all or nothin u can't have ying without yang.cause where ever theres a ying the will with out a doubt be a yang. yup thats it in a nutshell now come on tell me im wrong about that to.since u know all.

do u not get it it is not for anyone to judge jewish people. they did kill jesus and they will pay for it.but not by anyone but god. and only when god is ready will they be judged. OH wait, most of u don't believe in god so in that case i guess were all fucked !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IMO, the US cannot afford another war. As soon as we bombed their nuke sites, Iran will send its troops into Iraq and kill the American troops there. The US only has about 150,000 troops to begin with over there. Iran has a total force 12,285,000 troops including militia and they are right next door!

Remember, the recommended number of troops that they proposed for Iraq was no less than 500,000!

Lets see....12,285,000 vs 150,000..........looks pretty shitty for the Americans.

Iran is not the backwards nation Western leaders want you to believe. Yes like every government in the world, their government is fucked up and made up of crack pot Muslim fundamentalists but they do have a well trained military. That is why the US will probably not use ground troops because they know Iran will not be like Iraq.

I think that all of this Iran having nukes is horrible and they must be stopped is all fear mongering. Nuclear war only results in the annihilation of both parties. Fear is control, but both leaders from each country are fucking moronic warring idiots.

But as tradition holds, you should be more afraid of the person who has the most nukes and Iran has none.

The US will have a hard time selling this to the public. They really need to pull something out their ass to invade....perhaps another 9/11?

Americans are not as dumb as the world would like to believe. Just a lil lazy.

Also, you must come to realization that that other more powerful nations like Russia or China may come to Iran's aid if the US invades. Think about that before the government spews more fear mongering and sacrifices millions of lives for an agenda based on oil and money.

well thats just it red china has a army of around 2.3 million. so they coupled way more in the way of weapons i would think there the bigger threat.and i don't ever recall the us supporting the talaban or humas or funding them.hell it's in the gov and they openly support them so how is that fear mongering?

if anything it's called being aware. so u think bush is an evil man in search of more money i mean more than the billions he already has man u people r trying to make him out to be ....hitler if thats the case would'nt he start the clean up here? would'nt he close our borders to everyone?or are u saying he wants all people to come here but he wants to kill them over there?see don't make sense.the logical part of this (he just wants to protect us and our future)seems so hard for anyone to grasp.u sound like a bunch of fat rosie's out there u know the fat bitch that does'nt know what shes ever talking about people like u?her lmfao i remember when she was crying about the nra and gun rights and how no one should have them lmfao and her own body guard was carrying one.

or how people like al gore hold on now ur gonna love this your green peace hero goes all around the us preaching save the planet stop polluting the planet meanwhile all the houses and lear jets and limo's he's driving around in uses enough energy a month to support a city and thats just him not even talking about all the others that do it how lame people that think like that are.it's ok for me to do it but not u. he's just a man bear pig,south park i love it.:thumbsup:

ROFL ManBearPig

yep man bear pig, im super cereal

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Originally Posted by Adrenaline Rush

Plain and simple. With the possibility of a war against IRAN on the horizon, would you support a WAR agaisnt IRAN?

Nevertheless, I would back the US in a war against IRAN for the simple fact that they have admitted to producing a nuclear program for other purposes other than military combat.

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There's always a reason isnt there? this is why we get in to every fucking imperialist war that the fascists even MENTION as an idea. Because we are the United States of AMNESIA. no one remembers anything that happened BEFORE MONDAY.

"I backed that war and golly, turns out it was a complete crock of shit. thats weird. oh oh oh wait, now THIS war is DEFINATELY credible... those first 12 wars were just a fluke."

Ok..honestly I'm incredibly surprised with the number of people who seem to think that the government staged EVERYTHING on 9/11. As I said before, some of the things in various movies(loose change, zeitgeist, etc.) are strikingly intriguing, but that's what you're SUPPOSED to think. These people made this with the intention of you walking away drawing the SAME conclusion as they have come to. I just find it most disrespectful of people to have such a vain notion about the death of 3000+ people.

I used to be left all the way. At the beginning of everything...I didn't want the U.S. to go to Iraq, and I was certainly relieved when Canada's PM decided not to go along. But what could I do? Call Bush and ask him not to? Never! There's nothing I can do. So America went, and it becomes what it is today, and every day I find myself swinging more to the right on social issues. Look at this country now...is it really correct to take the left side approach and cut and run? It won't stop just because you take out your soldiers, and to believe that it would is just plain ridiculous. I pray to God that doesn't happen, because there needs to be a stern, long lasting American presence there. You made your bed, you have to sleep in it. You owe it to the Iraqi people. Iran is going to be no different. If you pull out...you wouldn't believe the collaboration that Iran, Syria, Iraq, and the entire network of terror organizations will make. And once they do...all hell will break loose. They aren't just going to fucking forget what happened, and leave you alone after you're completely out...unless you finish the job and give them the security you're talking about. It takes a lot longer than the 6 years you've spent.

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Ok..honestly I'm incredibly surprised with the number of people who seem to think that the government staged EVERYTHING on 9/11. As I said before, some of the things in various movies(loose change, zeitgeist, etc.) are strikingly intriguing, but that's what you're SUPPOSED to think. These people made this with the intention of you walking away drawing the SAME conclusion as they have come to. I just find it most disrespectful of people to have such a vain notion about the death of 3000+ people.

I used to be left all the way. At the beginning of everything...I didn't want the U.S. to go to Iraq, and I was certainly relieved when Canada's PM decided not to go along. But what could I do? Call Bush and ask him not to? Never! There's nothing I can do. So America went, and it becomes what it is today, and every day I find myself swinging more to the right on social issues. Look at this country now...is it really correct to take the left side approach and cut and run? It won't stop just because you take out your soldiers, and to believe that it would is just plain ridiculous. I pray to God that doesn't happen, because there needs to be a stern, long lasting American presence there. You made your bed, you have to sleep in it. You owe it to the Iraqi people. Iran is going to be no different. If you pull out...you wouldn't believe the collaboration that Iran, Syria, Iraq, and the entire network of terror organizations will make. And once they do...all hell will break loose. They aren't just going to fucking forget what happened, and leave you alone after you're completely out...unless you finish the job and give them the security you're talking about. It takes a lot longer than the 6 years you've spent.

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Watch the movie in my sig. all science

War should never be an option. But it is. We have no control of Commander in Cheif Dipshit, and Cheney the Highlander.

You peple do know that the only countries that are on israels side are the USA and micronesia right?

..and that America is to Israel just as Iran is to Hezbollah

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Originally Posted by palerider7777

yep man bear pig, im super cereal

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hahaahahaahahahah that was a great south park episode

there's another good south park where his dad is on a gameshow and says it wrong but i can't say it on here u know as we have free speech

"People who annoy you" hahah

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Originally Posted by Krogith

Watch the movie in my sig. all science

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i watched the whole video....you know, i believed this before reading this thread....It just makes me so angry...not only as an american, but as a human being. It so hard for americans as a whole to accept that fact that there are very...Very bad people in high places. And Money seems to be the biggest motive of all. For the owner of the trade center with his 4 billion dollar insurance claim.....to the president himself...and people that fall between. And who suffers....the people that 'believe' that america should NOT step down.."follow through"....they not only have been mislead, but have been raped of the scientific proof.
And to the person that started this thread, you are entitled.
I have MANY friends and family members in other countries RIGHT NOW fighting for a PAYCHECK!!!! That is their work....do all people end up with their dream career???? NO, they are there to feed their families. Do you think every solider really believes in what he is doing? or do you think it is 'his job' to believe?

The world has seen enough war. Time to close down Bush Family Butchers.

nice vid and it brings up sum good points.but to go as far as saying bush is behind it is a lil far fetched.i mean at the most i could see him steping aside or overlooking what osama's plans to maybe let him do it so he could start a war but thats way out in left field.im not saying thats not the case but i would have to see proof before i would believe something like this.

and from the post u people seem to thing im on bush's side, well sorry im not on anybodies side. they all have there own agenda.but i do recall something long ago dealing with bush's dad being linked to or starting the nwo(new world order)and i don't want any part of that bs.so if the vid was or is right thats a big if. but if so i would have to think that it would have to fall in line with the nwo stuff that his dad was into it would only make sense as war to taking over places, putting the people that u wanted into power in these places to help support the nwo.that would be my thought on the only reason why bush would allow 9/11 if that turned out to be the case.it would have to be to help complete the nwo.thats my thoughts on it

omg... I cant even respond to the stupidity. OR READ IT for that matter.

EVERYONE - TyPiGn N NterNet AbReviashawns iznt KEWL It JuSt MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID

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omg... I cant even respond to the stupidity. OR READ IT for that matter.

EVERYONE - TyPiGn N NterNet AbReviashawns iznt KEWL It JuSt MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID

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Hey SB.......try to keep it just a bit mellower, everybody has an opinion...you don't like his you'd HATE to see mine....LOL.

Let the wars stay overseas, peace in the homeland.:hippy:

Have a good one!:s4:

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Let the wars stay overseas, peace in the homeland.:hippy:

Have a good one!:s4:

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thats disgusting.

and no no, please YOU have a good one :thumbsup:

and how the hell are you going to tell ME to mellow out, I'd say my response was PRETTY MELLOW compared to the shit talkin (gibberishly pathetic though it may be) that was thrown at me. I guess its cool if its coming from an illiterate conservative though.

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I guess its cool if its coming from an illiterate conservative though.

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Welcome to Club Gitmo for CC abusers. We'll see ya after your vacation.

It's been stated in here before people.....the flame wars and insults are done/management.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

im the bad one and he's putting pics up of our flag burning now thats sick.and about 40 years ago that would be treason.oh and by the way i think i do pretty good for a 4th grade education lol.and im sure iv'e done way more than most people well thats cause i work hard and don't look for hand outs.

also while everyone else was in school i was running a business so i guess i could say im happy with the trade off

and psycho4bud ur right if bush did'nt do what he did when this all started then it would be way worse over here than it is now. but everyone will see this come a 1yr or 2 maybe 3. but as soon as we pull our troops and they regroup well....

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thats disgusting.

and no no, please YOU have a good one :thumbsup:

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Howdy spectrum,

I fail to see anything "disgusting" with Psycho4Bud's post,can you please enlighten us ?

Btw,I voted yes on this poll,just so ya know exactly where I stand..lol.

Have a good one ! :thumbsup: :jointsmile:

PS: the 'crapping protestor',wouldn't happen to be someone ya know..?

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Seems that most of our people here are against a war with Iran. By far actually. There is sanity still left!

I think once Bush declares himself a dictator we will have no choice. Unfortunately, he's allready passed an executive order all about it. We are doomed to war with random countries until we do something about it. We need these scumbags out of office.

Impeach Cheney!

After re-reading this thread I determined that my answer was way too short.

The Jerusalem posts predicted that the US would go to war with Iran back in April. Thankfully that didn't happen but they did have a reason for thinking that. I'm sure that the US has a ton of bases and weapons setup aimed right at Iran. As for those suggesting that Bush would need a new 9/11 to go into Iran don't hold your breath. Many neo-cons actually want another 9/11! It's just a word to them they don't even think about all the people who died. Fox news openly defended a neo-conservative writer who said:

"Remember the community of outrage and national resolve? America had not been so united since the first Day of Infamy - 12/7/41.
We knew who the enemy was then.
America's fabric is pulling apart like a cheap sweater.
What would sew us back together?
Another 9/11 attack.
It will take another attack on the homeland to quell the chattering of chipmunks and to restore America's righteous rage and singular purpose to prevail."

I don't believe that 9/11 was an inside job, but I do believe that the Bush Administration allowing another 9/11 type event to occur is a strong possibility. They've been waiting for it. If you read up on Bush's executive orders they talk about martial law and Bush becoming dictator no questions ask as soon as a large scale terrorist attacks occurs. This will allow him to respond quicker? Isn't our irrational and rushed response what got us in this situation in the first place? The congress didn't even have time to read the USA PATRIOT Act.

Added: I'd like to mention I know that other presidents have had martial law parameters set into place similar to GW Bush's but he is the first president to brag about how he will use them

All the wars need to stop asap. We're fighting more of an ideal than against physical forces these days and its quickly going nowhere. So much death and destruction over what? Oil?

I know way too many wounded vets from iraq and afghanistan, here in my home town and a few who weren't so lucky. I myself was scheduled to be in the 82nd airborne as an electric generator repair tech in April 2001, a few months before the shit hit the fan.

I would've been in one of the first combat forces to be deployed into the lands of afghanistan had I not sustained a hip injury two weeks before my ship-out date. My paperwork, that I still have by the way, would've placed me as graduated from all my classes and jump school right before Sept. 11th 2001 and stationed at my post in Fort Bragg, NC.

I can relate, just a little bit, to whats going on over there in the mid east and its not pretty at all. We need to quit WASTING piles and piles of money fighting an ideaology and work towards peace instead of blowing people up who don't agree with us and suffering heavy casualties on all sides of the senseless fight.

The present state of the world is truely unbalanced, hectic, and quite honestly scary. We need a break from the bombs, death, and destruction. Enough of this war after war after war stuff its getting us nowhere but into HUGE financial trouble.

We are spending ALOT more overseas on combat operations than we do domestically and thats just not right. There are people in need here in the states, and we're over in Iraq wasting money to kill 'terrorists'. Well there are alot more 'terrorists' more than willing to fill the shoes of their dead war heroes, and its going to be a never-ending cycle unless we come to an understanding of eachother and find atleast a few things we agree on and go from there.

At some point we all must look in the mirror as americans and ask... Who's the REAL terrorist?