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Come back when your sober.......Quote:
Originally Posted by eg420ne
Have a good one!:jointsmile:
Were you there when it was bombed, or are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by eg420ne
For the record, one more time, I was in lower NYC on the morning of 9/11. An architect told me that the WTC towers were going to collapse from the attack - which is exactly what happened.
I was standing acrosss the street from the WTC when it was bombed in '93. How you come to believe these conspiracy stories is beyond me.Quote:
Originally Posted by eg420ne
Nobody in New York, except for maybe a few people, buys into that nonsense.
I'll admit they say some crazy shit in those conspiracy movies...but that's why all conspiracies are interesting...not believable.
It's also pathetic that 3000+ people died, and here we sit arguing about who did it...the government or the terrorists. At this point, the problem is it happened..in and of itself. I don't think we should dishonour these people by throwing fingers at perpetrators...we should respect them by finding the perpetrators..
The american government is pretty sketchy and fucked up sometimes, but aren't they all??? Canada's government does weird shit too, just in different ways.
I don't think they killed that many of their own citizens and staged this huge undercover ploy with the enemy.
Watch that conspiracy shit for entertainment, not to find out the "secret truth about what you thought you understood". Pure crap.:cool:
Yeah and Anubis10012007, you negative repped b/c I dont agree with your 9/11 conspiracy stuff?
"there is nothing wrong with an alternate view on 9/11. go investigate Building 7 and how they "pulled" it and you will find the truth. the terrorists are not who you think they are man."
Bit of a hipocrit? I have a different view than you and you negative repped me? Nice.
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Originally Posted by rebgirl420
This is a common misconception that most Americans have, and they have it of course, because of the constant propaganda message thatā??s being sent out by the machine.
THE TRUTH IS, they donā??t attack us because of "their religious beliefs" or because they're "jealous of our freedom and hate democracy"
The attacks that took place on 9/11 are described by the CIA as "Blowback" blowback is not just ordinary retaliation. Blowback is when a group or country retaliates because of covert operations the u.s government implemented with out the American peopleā??s knowledge.
SUCH AS, America covertly overthrowing the DEMOCRATICLY elected government of Iran in the 60s. none of YOU know about it, but trust me every fuckin kid waitin to sign up with a terrorist group knows about it.
When the blowback comes, and the american people are completely taken off guard, the government tells us "they hate us because of our freedom and perfect red white and blue beautifulness" :thumbsup:
p.s the pentagon released a report recently stating that Iraq is the new leader in terrorist training camps / groups. Due to our presence, and the fact that most iraqis dont have a lot of access to food or water so to feed their familys they join the insurgency / terror groups to get paid.
Depends on how low Bush's approval ratings drop or if hes getting into trouble for his administration Anything to distract the public from the truth.
In the 1993 World Trade Center bombing (February 26, 1993) a car bomb was detonated by Islamic terrorists in the underground parking garage below Tower One of the World Trade Center in New York City. The 1,500-lb (680 kg) urea nitrate-fuel oil device killed six and injured 1,042 people. It was intended to devastate the foundation of the North Tower, causing it to collapse onto its twin.
The attack was planned by a group of conspirators including Ramzi Yousef, Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman, El Sayyid Nosair, Mahmud Abouhalima, Mohammad Salameh, Nidal Ayyad, Ahmad Ajaj, and Abdul Rahman Yasin. They received financing from al-Qaeda member Khaled Shaikh Mohammed, Yousef's uncle.
The bomb exploded in the underground garage at 12:17 P.M., generating a pressure estimated over one GPa and opening a 30-meter-wide hole through four sublevels of concrete. The detonation velocity of this bomb was about 15,000 ft/s (4.5 km/s). The cyanide gas generated is assumed to have burned in the explosion.
In October 1995, the militant Islamist and blind cleric Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman, was sentenced to life imprisonment for masterminding the bombing. In 1998, Ramzi Yousef was convicted of "seditious conspiracy" to bomb the towers. In all, ten militant Islamist conspirators were convicted for their part in the bombing, each receiving prison sentences of a maximum of 240 years
note (detonated by Islamic terrorists) way b4 bush jr was ever thinking of running for prez so to say he planned all this just to go to war makes no sense
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hmmm but 9/11 happened BEFORE we even got there. Its not the war that makes them want to hit us, its their original beliefs. Like their religion for example. Were infidels and leaving Iraq isnt going to change that.
This is a common misconception that most Americans have, and they have it of course, because of the constant propaganda message thatā??s being sent out by the machine.
THE TRUTH IS, they donā??t attack us because of "their religious beliefs" or because they're "jealous of our freedom and hate democracy"
The attacks that took place on 9/11 are described by the CIA as "Blowback" blowback is not just ordinary retaliation. Blowback is when a group or country retaliates because of covert operations the u.s government implemented with out the American peopleā??s knowledge.
SUCH AS, America covertly overthrowing the DEMOCRATICLY elected government of Iran in the 60s. none of YOU know about it, but trust me every fuckin kid waitin to sign up with a terrorist group knows about it.
When the blowback comes, and the american people are completely taken off guard, the government tells us "they hate us because of our freedom and perfect red white and blue beautifulness"
p.s the pentagon released a report recently stating that Iraq is the new leader in terrorist training camps / groups. Due to our presence, and the fact that most iraqis dont have a lot of access to food or water so to feed their familys they join the insurgency / terror groups to get paid
is that really it? r u sure, have u ever met an Islamist? well just to let u know i have worked with them. and they all believe and have told me that who ever does'nt convert to the way they believe. then there supposed to draw there blood. and yes iv'e read there (bible) have u? guess not cause u would know this stuff if u did.
That kind of proves my theory that those who solely go by the book are very retarded. hehe.
What makes Islamic fundamentalism any different from fundamental Christians who support the death penalty and want gays treated as Nazi oppressed Jews? What makes them different from Nazis themselves? The Nazis were just a group of little bitchy bitches who got their way thanks to corporate investment.
The Bible has its fair share of killing too ya now.
ISLAMOPHOBIA IS A DANGEROUS THING! hehe trust me!
From what I hear there will be another attack on 9/11 again and it will be in Los Angeles? This sucks because I live about 20 minutes away from Los Angeles and I have lots of family and friends that live there.
I bet the surviving terrorists from 911 will most likely plan another attack - come on people wake up....
6 of those 19 guys are still alive.
They should be dust.
I didn't like any of the choices in the poll. I would say that there is a possibility of another attack on U.S. soil soon, but there is no sure way to say for sure.
Dude are you for real??? So have these "Islamists" that you work with drawn your blood yet?:wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
I'd like to introduce you to the Christian bible:
Deuteronomy 2:34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain
Joshua 8:21And when Joshua and all Israel saw that the ambush had taken the city, and that the smoke of the city ascended, then they turned again, and slew the men of Ai.
22And the other issued out of the city against them; so they were in the midst of Israel, some on this side, and some on that side: and they smote them, so that they let none of them remain or escape.
23And the king of Ai they took alive, and brought him to Joshua.
24And it came to pass, when Israel had made an end of slaying all the inhabitants of Ai in the field, in the wilderness wherein they chased them, and when they were all fallen on the edge of the sword, until they were consumed, that all the Israelites returned unto Ai, and smote it with the edge of the sword.
25And so it was, that all that fell that day, both of men and women, were twelve thousand, even all the men of Ai.
26For Joshua drew not his hand back, wherewith he stretched out the spear, until he had utterly destroyed all the inhabitants of Ai.
27Only the cattle and the spoil of that city Israel took for a prey unto themselves, according unto the word of the LORD which he commanded Joshua.
28And Joshua burnt Ai, and made it an heap for ever, even a desolation unto this day.
29And the king of Ai he hanged on a tree until eventide: and as soon as the sun was down, Joshua commanded that they should take his carcase down from the tree, and cast it at the entering of the gate of the city, and raise thereon a great heap of stones, that remaineth unto this day.
Shhhhhh though....don't tell any Christians about this 'cause it might set them off and make them start burning villages and killing all men, women and children though! :wtf:
i believe there will be another "terrorist attack" before bush is out of office, it will get the country behind a war with iran
it really depends on how one could describe a 'big' attack. 9/11 calibre - yes it is a big attack but a petty bomb here and there claiming lives isn't big.
certainly i don't think there's going to be another big attack unless the goverment might wanna work with the crime organisations to plot something. the united states has a phenominal security level for its citizen and i'm sure no one could trespass their security. along with that, i also hope that these terror plots would completely be eradicated.
oh well.
If there is, it will probably be another inside job to justify war with Iran, and "unify" us again. The NeoCons have been saying we need another 9/11 for awhile now.
I don't like the poll options. You should have added a "Yes, but not by Islamist Extremists," or something to that effect.
No, I don't think we'll receive an attack of any kind from "Al-Qaeda." In fact, the existence of Al-Qaeda is questionable, and arguable.
I believe that the original attacks were funded largely by parts of our own government.
Like angry nomad said... the neo-conservatives believe that they need to create a myth to inspire, and unite the country to one cause. This means to create fear, and then claim to protect us from such 'evil'. Look up Robert Strauss and his idea of politics. He's the founder of Neo-conservatism.
I think that when the time is right... as in, when people are starting to feel more safe, they'll need to reassure us with another attack, to keep us on our toes. So, just like some "war on terror" propaganda states... "it could happen at any time: today, tomorrow, next week, next month, next year..."
The neo-cons & republicans raise the roof 'yelling we need to stop Iran', From what? and they compare Iran to the Nazis, well Irans not building fighter jets, super tanks, ray guns like the nazis did, In fact Iran has to buy airplane parts from other countries....Ever since the Bush Regime made them the enemy again, I tooo would want to build a bomb...... US Government is running wild it needs to be stop either by We The People:( The military:thumbsup: or Canada needs to invade the US, its what the mexicans are doing;)Quote:
Originally Posted by angry nomad
You know what I noticed, but no one ever seems to comment on? That Christianity is a religion with a very violent past as well. And, Mohammad himself said that killing other people except in self defense is one of the greatest crimes. So before you ignorant retards start bashing other religions, maybe you should do a little fucking research first!
I am so sick of this shit... Christ people, listen to yourselves, a lot of you sound just like the fucking Nazis concerning the Jews! God damn... this country has lost its way. The original idea of liberty has been corrupted.
What does Iraq have to do with 9/11. Unless you're under the general misconception that it did have something to do with 9/11.. Remember the WMDs? Noone talks about those anymore, funny aint it. Seemingly, noone talks about Afghanistan either, that was swept under the rug as well. Another 9/11 is good for the wealthy of your country. They will act sad but really they're loving it. It gives them more power and more control over you as a people. 40 years from now Bush will be the new Stalin. Both used fear as a power of oppression. Sure, call me tyrannical but its 100% true. Im willing to bet that when this new attack does happen, which it will inevitably, the perpetrators just so happen to be from Iran.Quote:
Originally Posted by rebgirl420
LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by spectrum balanced
Where do you get this from man :D
You realise that in the 1950s the CIA fully overthrew the Iranian republic and installed the Shah? You realise that's widely documented right? Don't be so quick to ridicule, especially when the man speaks the fuckin' truth. Aside from his error in terms of the decade stated, he is correct - Iran were to nationalize the oil industry, which was deemed unacceptable by the Western World (especially the British.) We made a lot of money and the Shah turned out to be an evil dictator, so you can kinda see why the Iranians would be pissed at us, you know, when you orchestrate a full military coup and put a man in power who kills thousands of citizens..Quote:
Originally Posted by L Rag
and the bible says to kill homesexual and stone(not in the good way) adulterers. Terrorism is a result of American occupation.
It makes so much sense for the government to want to take down two towers. The reasons I think are quite clear, and not just because it has been practiced by the US before. It gives them a reason to go into Iraq, a way to make the public afraid, gain more control, and most importantly make more money, lots of money, greedy indeed. Wow, it makes sooo much money. I find it funny, the news is so funny how they speak of Iraqies terrorists. When it's obviouse who the real terrorist is.
Yeah, i am not the biggest fan of the governments.
That oil smells so so goood.
I have to say no to a major attack on the 9/11 scale. We are comming up on an election year and an attack before hand would not be in the terrorist best interests. If they attacked us before the election. It would most certainly cause the amarican people to elect the most "lets go get the Basterds" canadate into office. This maybe what they want but doubt it.