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i'm so sick and tired of hearing about the rights of the convicted. that's why america has the worst crime rate...because of sympathizers of killers, rapists, pedaphiles and other low-life scum. these mf-ers should have no rights what-so-ever. whatever happened to victim's rights?
twisted logic?! this is probably one of the dumbest post i've ever read. talk about twisted logic....Quote:
Originally Posted by onequestion
ok, smoking weed is against the law but we do it anyway. why? cuz most of us agree that we're not harming anyone else and quite frankly, we're hardly harming ourselves. so, we take our chances and if we get caught then we know the punishment. do we think it's fair? of course not, but we know full well the ramifications of breaking this law.
what are these killers thinking when they kill other people? well, i know killing people is wrong cuz i'll end their life and hurt the people that love them. and i know i'll either get the death penalty or spend the rest of my life in jail. but hey, since i feel deep down in my heart that the death penalty is wrong, i'm gonna take a few lives anyway. and btw, these people do know what they are doing, being on death row is for premeditated murder.
ummm, i said the convicted not the accused. big difference. and as a society, we have to believe in our legal system. that's why we have appeals, mistrials, and cases that go to the supreme cort. and we're talking about the death penalty here. you really think innocent people are mistakenly sent to death row pretty often??? c'mon dude, you're undermining judges, the courts and the jury who find these f*ers guilty.Quote:
Originally Posted by reaper666
Well... just remember that the "important people", judges, and so, are the same who lie about the weed... if they hide the truth even in a "light" subject as weed, if they made a mistake and kill an innocent, do you think anybody will ever know?Quote:
Originally Posted by cacayjunasian
The isolation method has been tried, and it failed. Tere is a very good, and underappreciated, treasure in Philadelpha - Eastern State Penitentiary. They were the first to do the whole isolation method, over 150 years ago. It was abandoned. Long ago, and the jail shut down in the early 1970's. I took the tour a couple of years ago while on vacation in Philly.Quote:
Originally Posted by reaper666
Murderers don't have a conscience.
As I said before, far less "innocent" people are sent to jail than guilty ones set free.
Below: Eastern State Penitentiary
You missed the whole pint of my post. The point was just because the law is there, it doesnt mean it is right. I know the two are on completely different levels of seriousness but they are the same. Because someboy who killed somebody else knew about he death penalty when he killed somebody, there is no justification for it. Knowing about somehting doesnt make it right.Quote:
Originally Posted by cacayjunasian
Exactly TX Girl, P4b and caca, you guys know your shit. I say skip the waiting period too, a bullet is a whole lot cheaper than housing these people for 30 years before they kill them.
You have to realize that this is a topic that is a question of morals, and I'm talking about personal ones. That is why the answer to this question is there is no wrong belief (well, except perhaps if you think that people should be liberally executed). It seems that in some states the majority of people hold the moral belief that executing someone for a horrendous and violent crime is just and fair, and is a worth punishment. If you really believe that the aforementioned is untrue, why do some states (and the federal government) have the death penalty? Those people feel it is fair and just. If you really dislike the death penalty, I recommend getting involved in politics and fight for your state or perhaps even nationally to end the death penalty. Until that happens, it seems that most of America (or some states, not really sure how many states have one) is happy with the death penalty, just as I am tolerant of your view you must be tolerant of others =).Quote:
Originally Posted by onequestion
You are letting your emotions blind you if you really think about it, this is a topic you have to agree to disagree.
psycho4Bud. That's what I was getting at. And it does happen. You put a non violent weed Dude in the joint for 5 to 10 Years and he has to live around the Scumbag's like that, due to the overcrowding problems. So the only place to house some of the lucky one's. Such as myself, was in Max Custody. I did fine but Im a good sized dude. However I know some that didn't fair well in there. And the thing is, They should have never even been there in the first place for weed.:thumbsup:
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sorry Computer Problem's.
I'm for legalization of all recreational drugs........but I'm also for the death penalty for people like in the article.Quote:
Originally Posted by PHATTY LUMPKINS
Sorry to hear of your misfortune but glad to hear ya made out fairly well....that must have been a bitch to live with crazy assholes like that.
Have a good one!:jointsmile:
Yes it did suck. And I'm with you on the crazy's and sicko's. The other thing that get's my goat , is that they, the State. Will Coddle a child molester and release them Early only to Re-Offend again. That's a whole different deal tho, and I wont get into it tonight. Peace!:thumbsup:
"important people"??? have you ever served on jury duty? do you know any family relative or friend who is a lawyer? we have "normal people" that decide not only the outcome but also the sentencing. and what does this have to do with weed? i didn't know judges lie about weed. what are they lying about and what truths are they hiding? and you're really naive to think that judges are trying to cover up all their "mistakes" on all innocent people that are put to death.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coelho
and just because you personally don't feel a law is right, doesn't mean the punishment shouldn't be carried out to the maximum. especially when we are talking about people who knowingly and willfully take the lives of innocent bystanders.Quote:
Originally Posted by onequestion
You are exactly right. Knowingly and Willingly!! Fuck Them in the neck. But Accidental shit that happens is another story for the Punishment. And hell I cant even remember who said it. A lot of Judges do turn their cheek's, For other Arrangement's made behind the doors. District Atty's. Defense Atty's. Judges. They all know each other, and depending on the size of the City. Chance's are good they are personal freind's as well. Our System is Corrupt in a lot of way's. And the Allmighty Dollar is the main reason why. This is only my opinion.:thumbsup:
i am against the death penalty cause of the number of times it can be wrong.
but i truly belive that people who harm others in such horrid ways need to be put somewhere where they wount hurt anyone else, ever again.
now on the note of non violent offenders
in the same prison as violent!!!!!!!!!!! fucking sick freaks.
separate prisons, it cant be that hard, shave a few billion of the multi trillion dollar military budget...
and at that rate, shave a billion more and end world hunger.
the US will only be able to learn where it needs to put its money after it has none left... and no land left to spend it on.
sorry dudes, get bush out or you guys are gona collaps... you owe a lot of money and china is gaining on you.
I think life in prison is an appropriate sentence many times. But in awful cases where it is pretty clear that someone did it due to confessions, or eye witnesses w nothing to gain, or especially if it was premeditated those are the fucks I don't want to be breathing the same air as us.
I'm all for separate prisons, too. we should all have all murderers in one spot, death row on one side and the rest of the murderers on the other. I don't want to risk non violent prisoners lives by subjecting them to those fuckers, that aint right.
After the 7 inmates escaped in 2000 (or 01, I forget) and killed a police officer in Irving, death row guys dont get to work or fraternize w any other prisoners even on their rec time. That's got to suck. Dumbasses.
I think they average about 8 or 10 yrs til they get their date. that ought to be enough time to file all appeals and try to prove their innocence. I know there are guys who have no family or money to help them but many seem to be able to dupe well meaning citizens into setting up websites crying out for their release and to get help w money and resources.
Damn, that doesn't sound that bad. They gave us 90 cents a DAY.Quote:
Originally Posted by PHATTY LUMPKINS
the death penalty is too easy i think, i think a much more a deserving punishment would be like solitary confinement for the rest of ones life
Man u gotta love America. Another unscrupulous bitch trying to profit from her son's death. Who cares how long it took or how it was done. What's done is done and why should the mom get rich off of it.
don't know whatever gives you THAT idea :wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by rebgirl420
no doubt he took longer that that to rape, torture, and then kill her i believe n the death penalty, but i believe they should set em loose (inside the prison) give em a head start, then shoot em dead, or be killed the same way they killed their victim.
no one should have "permission" to kill anyone in this world. i personally think the death penalty is wrong, 2 wrongs dont make a right. i feel for the victim and dont have pity on the guy who was put to death, but i still dont think the death penalty is right. let the guy sit in prison his whole life and think about what he did, i think thats even more punishment than death.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil_Man
imho...Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanses
1. if i had to choose death or life(but in a prison), i still would choose life. i just don't understand how you think living in a maximum security prison is worse than death itself :wtf:
2. why should our tax dollars go towards keeping these people properly fed and housed?...that's just not right :mad:
3. if these people are dead, with 100% certainty, they will never harm someone else :thumbsup:
4. if taking somebody's life is the ultimate, most heinous crime, how can we serve justice to the victim, victim's family and their friends without the ultimate, most heinous penalty? justice is viewed by most people in this way.