Kids with Religious bullshit in thier head

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Originally Posted by roxy

i believe jesus was real, totally,

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Same here.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ

... but his was definetly a rebal... so christians believe in being good n everything, yet they follow a rebal? if there are any christians reading this... correct me if im wrong, wud love to hear ur views on it all... n i bet he smoked good old weed :D

sos mike.... just noticed that u r religeous..... cud u explain 2 me?

Explain. First I'd like to thank you for giving me this chance to tell you and everyone else my personal beliefs. That being said just remmebr they are my personal beliefs.

I believe....

Jesus was a man, born of a virgin.

Jesus is God's son.

Jesus is God in physical form.
(just like I am a husband, father, son, brother. All different roles but all the same person)

Jesus was sinless.

Jesus was our sacrifice to clean us from all our screw ups (aka our sins).

Jesus in one day defeated Satan and freed us all from any rules like the ten commandments because we couldn't live up to them.

Jesus then died and three days later arose from the grave by Gods power.

All we have to do is believe who he said he is (faith) and do as he asked which was to love everyone.

I don't knwo if that is what your looking for regading your question but I can go on just need to know what topic your looking for.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ

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Originally Posted by Belleza

...What do you think of what i just said about starting them off Athiest? That's what I want to do when I have kids... :)

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I would like to quickly comment on this. I live in a country that allows you to do just that - teach them whatever you want. Atheism is a cold, dark, cynical view of the world in general, though. Is this the best choice for your child?

Before you adopt a doctrine under such misinformed, misguided, not researched and not practically sound information, perhaps you owe it to yourself to STUDY for the meaning.

I do not mean open up the Bible and dive in with futility. This will only confuse you hopelessly. You MUST have a competent teacher that you trust. Don't have that?

Ask me how and where you can get it. ;)

By the way, it's completely free...

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Originally Posted by meek mike

Explain. First I'd like to thank you for giving me this chance to tell you and everyone else my personal beliefs. That being said just remmebr they are my personal beliefs.

I believe....

Jesus was a man, born of a virgin.

Jesus is God's son.

Jesus is God in physical form.
(just like I am a husband, father, son, brother. All different roles but all the same person)

Jesus was sinless.

Jesus was our sacrifice to clean us from all our screw ups (aka our sins).

Jesus in one day defeated Satan and freed us all from any rules like the ten commandments because we couldn't live up to them.

Jesus then died and three days later arose from the grave by Gods power.

All we have to do is believe who he said he is (faith) and do as he asked which was to love everyone.

I don't knwo if that is what your looking for regading your question but I can go on just need to know what topic your looking for.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ

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so why have none of these things ever happened again? such as jesus being born from a virgin.... that is phisically impossible isnt it?.... do religeous ppl have a drug that they arnt telling us about that takes u to this other world of miracles n stuff?

Roxy-

Tisk tisk. You ask me to expalin what I believe and I did or can't you remember saying this:

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Originally Posted by roxy

cud u explain 2 me?

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I answered your question and explained what I believe and you turn around and say something like:

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Originally Posted by roxy

do religeous ppl have a drug that they arnt telling us about that takes u to this other world of miracles n stuff?

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If you wanted to waist my time you could have done it in a more constructive way like:

"Mike, I hear you roll the sickest joints. Can you please explain to me step by step your rolling technique?"

Which I would have gladdly done cause my joints are the sickest. Like a cig. Of course you didn't do that so what's the point of mentioning it now. I don't get it. I'm tolerant of all beliefs. I could give two constipated turds what others believe but the moment someone says thier a Chrsitian or believe the Christian faith you people come out of the wood works. Why can't you people and I mean you people be more tolerant of others views. I personaly don't care what you say about my faith or what jokes you make of my faith but come on. Don't be an ass and dis others because they believe something other then what you believe. Roxy, I be honest and polite which I can't say the same about you but we (Christians) do have a drug that takes us to another world. And you know what, you can't have any now. I'm keeping your dose for myself. So what cha think about them apple pipes.

BE TOLERANT PEOPLE. PLEASE.

Thats all us Chrsitians want. Respect just as we respect your choice.

Blah.... Blah..... Blah..... Blah..... Blah......

(half the time you people don't even read what we right but your quick to reply why is that)

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ

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Originally Posted by roxy

wud love to hear ur views on it all

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Not really huh.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ

"If it takes for me to suffer for my brother to see the light, give me pain till I die cause Lord I know you'll treat them right." DMX

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Originally Posted by roxy

... but his was definetly a rebal... so christians believe in being good n everything, yet they follow a rebal? if there are any christians reading this... correct me if im wrong, wud love to hear ur views on it all... n i bet he smoked good old weed :D

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i ddnt ask what your beliefs are, i wanted to know why christians believe in being good, yet they follow a rebel....
i am honest, i am polite, i respect over ppls view and opions, i respect that sum ppl use religeon as their opium, i am not making a joke of anyones faith, i am not an ass, and i do not dis ppls beliefs... you need to chill...

oh, and thankyou for telling me your opinions and views.... they were very interesting...

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Originally Posted by roxy

i ddnt ask what your beliefs are,

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But Roxy you did.

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Originally Posted by roxy

sos mike.... just noticed that u r religeous..... cud u explain 2 me?

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Originally Posted by roxy

i wanted to know why christians believe in being good, yet they follow a rebel....

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Clarify for me next time please instead of:

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Originally Posted by roxy

so christians believe in being good n everything, yet they follow a rebal?

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It sounds more of you saying "but yet they follow a rebel?" <----(should have added WHY IS THAT?

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Originally Posted by roxy

i am honest,

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Then why did you right this if your honest.

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Originally Posted by roxy

wud love to hear ur views on it all

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Originally Posted by roxy

i am polite, i respect over ppls view and opions,

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Then why did you say this:

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Originally Posted by roxy

do religeous ppl have a drug that they arnt telling us about that takes u to this other world of miracles n stuff?

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That doesn't sound polite or respectful of any religious people's views.

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Originally Posted by roxy

i respect that sum ppl use religeon as their opium,

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Please do explain this for me. How is it they use religion as an opium. Do they snort it, smoke it, shot it. Or could it be they believe in it and that's your problem with it and them.

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Originally Posted by roxy

i am not making a joke of anyones faith,

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Then again why did you make the comment about religious people being on a drug that takes them to another world. You know with miricals and such.

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Originally Posted by roxy

i am not an ass,

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I'm sure your not but your not tolerant thats for sure.

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Originally Posted by roxy

and i do not dis ppls beliefs...

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But I've proven you have by your own words.

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Originally Posted by roxy

you need to chill...

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Your right I do. Just as soon as I see some tolerance from people like yourself.

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Originally Posted by roxy

oh, and thankyou for telling me your opinions and views.... they were very interesting...

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Your welcome, I was just doing as you asked why it ended up like this. Well look back and see who started it.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ

**passes a joint each to roxy and mike** :)

do you actually know what an atheist is? An atheist is omeobdy who *beleives* that there is no God, and there mind is made up and they are sure of it. I think you mean all children should start as agnostics.

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Originally Posted by Kid Dynamite

do you actually know what an atheist is? An atheist is omeobdy who *beleives* that there is no God, and there mind is made up and they are sure of it. I think you mean all children should start as agnostics.

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good point.. i agree that you should raise your children as agnostic, or theyll never have an unbiased opinion of any religion, though.. if/when i have kids, ill let them decide.. but then again, its only religious people that enforce their beliefs on their kids.. its hard to force your kid into agnosticism lol

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Originally Posted by Kid Dynamite

do you actually know what an atheist is? An atheist is omeobdy who *beleives* that there is no God, and there mind is made up and they are sure of it. I think you mean all children should start as agnostics.

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Yeah, I know what Atheism is. You can teach them to be non-committal, non-dogmatic about anything and you will have helpless children following whatever new theories come along. They will never be rooted in anything. One cannot believe in something that does not exist.

May I ask why you are here and not hanging out with the potheadz in the lobby? :)

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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR

**passes a joint each to roxy and mike** :)

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thanks ghost, that joint was very much needed :)

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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR

good point.. i agree that you should raise your children as agnostic, or theyll never have an unbiased opinion of any religion, though.. if/when i have kids, ill let them decide.. but then again, its only religious people that enforce their beliefs on their kids.. its hard to force your kid into agnosticism lol

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i agree totally...

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Originally Posted by roxy

i agree totally...

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me too LOL :p

hehehe :p

yep

yeah it would be better agnostic. well anything but christianity. for me anyway. and for the billionth time, DOES ANYONE FOLLOW SOMETHING OTHER THAN CHRIST RELIGIONS?????????? no one answered my question and i asked it like a lot of times. damn! ::puff puff:: any Pagans? any anything else????


::runs away from the scary christians::

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Originally Posted by Belleza

yeah it would be better agnostic. well anything but christianity. for me anyway. and for the billionth time, DOES ANYONE FOLLOW SOMETHING OTHER THAN CHRIST RELIGIONS?????????? no one answered my question and i asked it like a lot of times. damn! ::puff puff:: any Pagans? any anything else????


::runs away from the scary christians::

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i dont follow any religion

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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR

i dont follow any religion

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i dont follow any religeon either...
oh and mike.... you asked what i meant when i said "God is the ppl's opium".... God is there to relieve their pain or help with the problem, but he can not actually cure the pain/problem....
its a famous quote from a book.... cnt remember the name of it or the author.... its worth a read though.... i will find out and tell you what it is called n wotnot....

sorry... it wasnt a book, it was an essay by a philosopher called Karl Marx.... and the actual quote was.... "Religeon... is the opium of the people". http://www.age-of-the-sage.org/philo...karl_marx.html

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Originally Posted by GooseBear

atheist don't believe in God that is what I'm hearing
there is no proff that there is a God is what your saying
but then if there wasn't a God why would the atheists say they don't believe in him
cuzz technically he had to be there before people said they didn't think that he was real???

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that logic is bullshit. i dont believe god exsists he is a myth. i in no way think he is real never was.

useing your bullshit logic i could say santa clause is real, because he has to be because people dont believe he is real.

for crying out loud does your arguement even make sense to you, i just hope you where extremly high when you came up with that.

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Originally Posted by GooseBear

atheist don't believe in God that is what I'm hearing
there is no proff that there is a God is what your saying
but then if there wasn't a God why would the atheists say they don't believe in him
cuzz technically he had to be there before people said they didn't think that he was real???

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yeah, seriously, god doesnt have to exist for atheists to exist. Atheist are people who do not believe in the idea of God. The only requirement for atheists to exist is that somebody invented the idea of God.

if that doesnt make sense, then listen to this.

Man 1: Unicorns exist.

Man 2: No, they dont.

Man 1: You just proved my point

Man 2: ...

Man 1: By saying that they dont exist is proof that they do - How can you say it doesnt exist if it doesnt exist?

You see, that arguement doesnt hold whatsoever.. It doesnt even make sense.

you go ghost! i agree totally..... why does god have to exist for us to believe he is not real? the only thing that is telling us that he is real are the ppl that follow him... and even they dont have proof that he really exists....the bible was prolly written by a load of stoners having a laugh... and how sad would that be if it was, for 100's of years ppl have been following a book that was written for a laugh?

I will train my children to be highly intelligent little demons ready to take to the earth.

You see my cannabis smoking readers. The Christian Missionaries whom colonized America regarded the practice of eating Peyote as being 'A sacrilegeous ceremony of the devil'. And it was the Christians whom began to stamp out all the Peyote Cults and Native American Tribes. All our laws in the U.S. are based, fundamentally, on the teachings of the Bible.
Not to say that the bible is bad. For our laws do hold our country toghether, but, the drugs laws are a little unfair. Not only that, majority of drug users are "White", and, "colored" minorites have been many times blamed in the past for the trafficking of drugs. I would say that the majority of "Blacks" in America are highly religious Christains that don't consume narcotics and intoxicants. I think "white" bud smokers should undersand that. That all that rap music and shit about the ghetto you hear on the radio is just to make money and most "blacks" just want to be good citizens and raise their kids to be doctors, layers, politicians, ect.

The actual system of the American government i.e. democracy is from the Ancient Greeks system of Government, democracy. But much of the moral basis of our laws is based upon Christian teachings. Remember the K.K.K. was burning crosses on "Blacks" lawns so its no wonder why many blacks embraced Christianity.

See thats how they play it.
"It's cool smoke the bud" (they say, but, they don't smoke it)
They say: "yea, it's all good..." (but then you get arrested by three black cops).

"New blood joins this earth
and quickly he's subdued
through constant pained disgrace
the young boy learns the rules."

"with time the child draws in
this wipping boy done wrong
deprived of all his thoughts
the young man struggles on...
a vow unto his own
that never from this day
his will they'll take away..."

:confused: i am very confused delta.... i take it ur caned, cuz ur rambling on a bit :p
its all good :)

wow this is getting good.

yea I ramble don't I.
Stop it delta9!
Stop it delta!
This is not funny delta9!
Stop!
I don't wanna' play anymore delta!
let me out!

Remember "dead skin mask"?
dance with the dead in my dreams.
I don't wanna' play anymore Mr. Geee!
Let me out!!

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Originally Posted by kuulbns

Well it's nice that Mike is free to express his opinion. My opinion is that he's a fake Christian that uses religion as an excuse to get high. No Where in the Bible is smoking, or polluting ones body condoned. In the last days there will be many false prophets. This THC ministry is a scam started by a bunch of wanna-bes that wanted an excuse to smoke pot and get away with it. Try being honest with yourself Mike, you like getting high, it is NOT a sacrament any more than a golden calf is a God. I don't preach at people, it's wrong and only drives them away. I like speaking with people in general, if the subject comes up fine but the more you try to force something on another the more likely they will find they do not want to listen. Sis. Kuu
Grace Evangelical College and Seminary

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alright, just because mikey does it to get high (which,no offence, is quite obvious because no true christian acts like that) doesnt mean that they all do.

I myself beleive in a goddess, whom i call mary jane, and the flowers of the cannabis plant are an important sacrament, not the act of getting high. This is not some petty excuse to get high with no consequences (its not even really a religion). The main part of the beleifs have to do with cannabis and sexuality. Women are highly respected, and are treated as the worldly goddesses they are.

I beleive that you should force your beleifs on no one. I will teach my children everything i know, and i will hope that they follow a spiritual path like mine, but it will be up to them. i will only be dissappointed if they choose a completely non spiritual lifestyle. but even then i will let them be.

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Originally Posted by opiuser

which,no offence, is quite obvious because no true christian acts like that

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Offense was taken because you haven't even talked with me and don't know me but yet you feel it's ok to talk about my beliefs and my views as if you do.

You have such a low opinion of Christians as I read in the Chistian wack thread but you say "No true christian acts like that." How exactly would you define a real Christian acting?

I personally don't think you know what a Christian is or how they should act. But of course thats my opionon on the two posts that I read from you.

But anyways thanks for giving me something to do. If you don't mind I'd like to point out something you said that was hypocritical. You wrote:

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Originally Posted by opiuser

I beleive that you should force your beleifs on no one.

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But yet the very next sentence you write is:

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Originally Posted by opiuser

I will teach my children everything i know

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Wouldn't that be forcing your beliefs on your kids. Thats the way it sounds to me at least. As a Christian father I will not teach my kids my beliefs I will show them by my example. So that way they can have a balance and non biast opinion on my beliefs and the beliefs they will choose to follow. Thats just me thou I choose not to force my beliefs on anyone I do however like to share my beliefs with everyone that is willing to listen.

God Bless and Peace be with you.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ and Cannabis

Hi mike.

Take your bible and shove it up your mothers ass.