Executing Mentally Retarded People

wow

thats fucked up shit

im really sorry to here about ur expeirence jacquelyne, that sounds horribly terrifying

anyways

later

We are all humans at the end of the day.........

Peace

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Originally Posted by Encatuse

Wow.. some of you people are really pathetic and morally weak.
Kill ignorant losers like SatanicSmoker, not retards.

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Hell, i'm for the killing of basically anyone, not just the retarded.

Morally weak?

Whats wrong with going against the majority? Just cause i don't think like everyone else makes me weak, pathetic and a loser?

Some retarded people don't think like the majority either ya know, yet you think its ok to kill me and not them?

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Originally Posted by Encatuse

There are different levels of down syndrome, those with evaluated mentality below that of the average 18 year old should be permenantly regarded as minors in regards to the law.

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Doesn't matter how old you are really. I mean cmon there are 14 year old kids that have graduated college already. There are kids that know more about death than most people.

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Originally Posted by jacquelyne

The diff is they arent as supervised and the innocent people that are in there for things such as depression or bipolar schizos whatever arent protected from serial rapists that are put in there believe me i know cause i had a serial rapist break into my room with a knife in the middle of the night while i was there.There was supposed to be security in the corridor outside my room.I know it happens in jail too but it just aint that easy to break into another persons cell.Anyways i met rapists and murderers in there and believe me they should be in prison getting done to them what they do to others.

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i was in a mental hospital before for like 3 weeks, due to depression/suicidal thoughts. the place you were in must have sucked, cuz the place i was in had separate floors, (with locked doors to the stairway, and elevators you need a secret code to operate) which separated high risk patients (rapists, violent psycos) from lower risk patients (suicidal type, non-violent crazies). I dont know mabey its different in austrilia though.

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Originally Posted by juggalo420

i was in a mental hospital before for like 3 weeks, due to depression/suicidal thoughts. the place you were in must have sucked, cuz the place i was in had separate floors, (with locked doors to the stairway, and elevators you need a secret code to operate) which separated high risk patients (rapists, violent psycos) from lower risk patients (suicidal type, non-violent crazies). I dont know mabey its different in austrilia though.

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Its nothing like that here i wish it was.

i dont think any1 should be executed

basically were all going to kill oursleves one day anyways

so who cares who we execute

they did sumthing they get fried for it

later

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Originally Posted by az666

i dont think any1 should be executed

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tottaly agree, i think life is to precious, and i dont want the goverment murdering in my name, also i believe people can reform and change even murders. some people say its justice to the victim to execute the murder, but i think we can advance as a specise from that eye for an eye mentality.

i just think its even worse morally to execute a retarded person, cause they dont understand what they did was wrong.

I am suprised I haven't been executed myself for writing on this message board, given, most of my messages, I would probably be considered metally challenged and hence retarded.

And may Mighty Cheif Washakie personally beat and blugeon me upon my death with his sacred medicine pipe.

And I will also allow the Ayatolah to burn me with a hot poker before God casts me into eternal Hellfire.

The Malaysian Authorities will also be allowed to cane me a few times before I fall into the final furnace hades.

dude whatevr ur smoking gimme

later

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Originally Posted by jacquelyne

The diff is they arent as supervised and the innocent people that are in there for things such as depression or bipolar schizos whatever arent protected from serial rapists that are put in there believe me i know cause i had a serial rapist break into my room with a knife in the middle of the night while i was there.There was supposed to be security in the corridor outside my room.I know it happens in jail too but it just aint that easy to break into another persons cell.Anyways i met rapists and murderers in there and believe me they should be in prison getting done to them what they do to others.

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yeh been there too definatly not nice places especially for very vunrable people with depression.

AND THEN WE'LL GET ALL THE NIGGERS JEWS AND HOMSEXUALS TOO....

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Originally Posted by FrenchInhale

Ok well I got this idea from juggalo and I feel it is sort of a religous/moral question... How do you guys feel about executing people who are retarded....

Personally I feel that if someone commits a crime worthy of execution be they mentally retarded or not they should be killed... the fact that someone is retarded doesn't change the fact that they killed someone... you do the crime you do the time/execution weither you be retarded or not.

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Suits me - there's one in this big house on Pencilvania Avenue - can you sort him out?

Yeah I cannot spell pen-sill-vay-neee-aaaa

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Originally Posted by Looker

AND THEN WE'LL GET ALL THE NIGGERS JEWS AND HOMSEXUALS TOO....

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You hit the nail on the head, buddy. Fascism is coming, and not many realize it...

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Originally Posted by SatanicSmoker

If the mentally retarded person is stable enough to take care of themselves,and doesn't go around stabbing people, i think they should live.

he others that have to be fed, dressed, and washed, or are a danger to others should be executed.

There are alot of mentally retarded people in institutions, their family don't visit, they just keep paying room and board. If they don't the tax payers do.

Theres no real use for these people. Their either in an almost coma like state, are so medicated they couldn't respond if they wanted to, or are on the streets attacking people because they can't pay for their own medication. Better off dead i say.

But thats just me.

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Ya that is pretty ignorant to say. I cant believe that you feel that you could just throw away a human life. Just because it costs you a few dollars out of your check.... If you do work..... Plenty of mentally retarded people make a contribute to society. Come to your senses man

Interesting topic. The question we have to answer is not whether the person has the mind of a certain age. The degree of intelligence varies, however, this is not really a question that deserves a moral answer. This type of question comes down to the LAWs of that country, city, or town and previous cases that have occured concerning these similar facts. We can share are opinions which can change outcomes but really in this type of situation, it really comes down to the judge and previous cases. I am unaware of any cases as this, Im sure there has been some. I'd be interested to know the outcomes and the facts of certain cases concerning these situations. We can change the laws. peace

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Originally Posted by F L E S H

You hit the nail on the head, buddy. Fascism is coming, and not many realize it...

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Yes , well the concept of executing the mentally retarded .... I mean Hitler wanted to do that.....

I dunno I thought we learned our lesson.....

I CANT BELIEVE SOME OF THE THINGS I AM HEARING HERE...

LOOK AT ALL THE ADVANCEMENTS IN NEUROSURGERY STEM CELL THERAPY..

PERHAPS SOMETIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE THE RETARDED MY BE HELPED

ALSO MANY MENTALLY RETARDED PEOPLE HAVE SPECIAL ABILITIES.....

I REALIZE THAT THE COST IS HIGH TO ALL BUT WHAT IF IT WAS YOUR KID??

COME ON JESUS CHRIST .... FUCK, PEOPLE...... :mad:

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Originally Posted by FrenchInhale

Ok well I got this idea from juggalo and I feel it is sort of a religous/moral question... How do you guys feel about executing people who are retarded....

Personally I feel that if someone commits a crime worthy of execution be they mentally retarded or not they should be killed... the fact that someone is retarded doesn't change the fact that they killed someone... you do the crime you do the time/execution weither you be retarded or not.

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Get it? Nope.

Opens alot of doors that are best left with neckties on the knobs (get it people inside are getting fucked, ok ok never mind)

But seriously, here is a simple line of logic I have on execution.

America is a christian nation (I dont mean all its people are christian, but it is founded on christian beliefs, in god we trust and all that)
One of the ten commandments is THOU SHALT NOT KILL.
America is committing a deadly sin so frequently they have developed machines that make it more "hands-off" and easier to clean up afterwards so they can do it more and faster.
Now I know in the old testament there are also rules about an eye for an eye, a slave (serf, servant, peon, whatever) for a prize bull and all that shit, but Jesus cast those laws down, and said desire of a woman other then your wife is the same as laying with her, and is adultery (comes back to intention now AGAIN, in yet ANOTHER religeon, but I digress). So what intention is being acted upon in that wonderous christian nation of opportunity? Justice/vengence (depends on what side your on again huhn...) protection, or is it just more cost effective to kill someone then to feed them for life.

Know your enemy, your enemy is subversion of beliefs, its never ok to kill a human being, especially when its not self defense, i mean the guy is strapped to a fuckign table and has a needle shoved into his arm, after being fed a last meal with chemicals to activate the powerful sedatives tehy have been feeding him for a week. (they swab the spot just in case he gets an infection i suppose) its not like hes coming at you with a brick and you have to open him and feel his blood while its still warm spurting on you. Yeah not as easily to talk about killing someone when you think of thier still beating heart pumping warm blood out the holes you put into them.
There really is not point killing someone for committing any crime, no matter how heinous, protecting society is what justice really is.

Mentally retarded and clinically insane are two completely different things. A mentally retarded person is someone with a subnormal IQ, whether through a birth defect or a brain injury or whatever.

A person who is clinically insane is often quite intelligent, but is missing a key part of their personality or something. Schizophrenia is the classic insanity, the cause of people's dogs telling them to kill people or someone imagining himself to be the King of Siam. Serial killers are often very intelligent, but something is miswired somewhere and they are addicted to ritualistic killing. I say ritualistic not because it's Satanic or anything, although in some cases it can be, but because serial killers usually have a specific type of victim and a specific way they like to kill. Ted Bundy killed young men and boys through, I believe, strangulation. BTK killed only women and his nickname (short for Bind, Torture, Kill) reflected how he killed his victims.

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Originally Posted by juggalo420

tottaly agree, i think life is to precious, and i dont want the goverment murdering in my name, also i believe people can reform and change even murders. some people say its justice to the victim to execute the murder, but i think we can advance as a specise from that eye for an eye mentality.

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If the U.S. did away with the death penalty and announced a new policy involving more hands-on work with convicts to help them reform themselves and "change" then do you know what would happen?

I do. I guarantee the homicide rate in the U.S. would more than double. Hell, if I knew that I could kill someone and just have to do some time, there would be some people I would like to off.

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Originally Posted by FrenchInhale

If the U.S. did away with the death penalty and announced a new policy involving more hands-on work with convicts to help them reform themselves and "change" then do you know what would happen?

I do. I guarantee the homicide rate in the U.S. would more than double. Hell, if I knew that I could kill someone and just have to do some time, there would be some people I would like to off.

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not one study proves that the death penalty is a deterant.

and maybe the reason you'd kill someone if you wouldnt face the death penalty is because you have no conscience.

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Originally Posted by Canadabis

Opens alot of doors that are best left with neckties on the knobs (get it people inside are getting fucked, ok ok never mind)

But seriously, here is a simple line of logic I have on execution.

America is a christian nation (I dont mean all its people are christian, but it is founded on christian beliefs, in god we trust and all that)
One of the ten commandments is THOU SHALT NOT KILL.
America is committing a deadly sin so frequently they have developed machines that make it more "hands-off" and easier to clean up afterwards so they can do it more and faster.
Now I know in the old testament there are also rules about an eye for an eye, a slave (serf, servant, peon, whatever) for a prize bull and all that shit, but Jesus cast those laws down, and said desire of a woman other then your wife is the same as laying with her, and is adultery (comes back to intention now AGAIN, in yet ANOTHER religeon, but I digress). So what intention is being acted upon in that wonderous christian nation of opportunity? Justice/vengence (depends on what side your on again huhn...) protection, or is it just more cost effective to kill someone then to feed them for life.

Know your enemy, your enemy is subversion of beliefs, its never ok to kill a human being, especially when its not self defense, i mean the guy is strapped to a fuckign table and has a needle shoved into his arm, after being fed a last meal with chemicals to activate the powerful sedatives tehy have been feeding him for a week. (they swab the spot just in case he gets an infection i suppose) its not like hes coming at you with a brick and you have to open him and feel his blood while its still warm spurting on you. Yeah not as easily to talk about killing someone when you think of thier still beating heart pumping warm blood out the holes you put into them.
There really is not point killing someone for committing any crime, no matter how heinous, protecting society is what justice really is.

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i can hands on kill every pedofile
every rapist


when i think of certian people existing i can in fact KIll them
example
eric webb
we call him acid head
he raped his granny and did a few years in prison
if anyone needed a hot needle its this sick fucker
so the death penalty aint the problem
its those who controll who gets it
court system is crooked and thats just the facts
yaw dont blame a tool for its damage
blame the fools using them
peace

lets make executions public again.something horrible too.burnt at the stake,crucifixtion,something long and brutal.maybe people would think twice.naaaa,i doubt it.

anyone seen the movie "i am sam"? one of you watch that movie and then try and say that retards deserve to die i bet you it will make you cry like a little bitch

saw the movie,penn did a great job.i believe life in prison is worse than the death penalty anyway.

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Originally Posted by FrenchInhale

If the U.S. did away with the death penalty and announced a new policy involving more hands-on work with convicts to help them reform themselves and "change" then do you know what would happen?

I do. I guarantee the homicide rate in the U.S. would more than double. Hell, if I knew that I could kill someone and just have to do some time, there would be some people I would like to off.

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You're kidding, right?

How about countries that don't have a death penalty? Are their murder rates soaring to new heights? Not that I know of.

Then Republicans accuse Democrats of subscribing to a culture of death....

death penalty=treason,child molestation.

if found guilty,good bye michael jackson!!(thank god)

or how about nobody murders or executes anybody?

oh damn, there I go being all 'liberal' again.. and on a Cannabis website.. what am i thinking?!?

maybe in anothert life.

Nobody has the right to say who lives or dies.
If they were born they have Just as much right to live as you or I...normal or spastic.

as for the criminally insane thats a whole noether story..
put all the rockspiders,petertheives,sex offenders and hippies on one big island and blow the fucking thing up..

(i was joking about the hippies and I know I contradicted myself alittle But you gotta agree)..;)

soo, you think that the six yr old kid in flint mishigan that brought a hand gun to school that he found in his uncle's house,and brought it to school and killed another six yr old girl in his class(wich was by accadent) should fry? Same thing. these ppl are retarded with the mind set of (most of the time ) this six yr. old boy. so, No