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guys guys guys.. cant we all just sit around and burn a marijuana ciggerette?? joints are tried and true, people have been smoking with them for alot longer then other methods, i like smoking from glass, well love it, but still nothing brings back memories, or just the trill of smoking as a nicely rolled joint.
On the THC Transfer Rate test, the joint came in second. Way ahead of the vaporizer.
That's why you only pack what you can hit. Maybe, a little a extra for a second hit. And joints get resinated. Steamrollers taste resin-free.Quote:
Originally Posted by sam44
THC Transfer Rate study:
Look at the bottom of this page
MAPS/CaNORML vaporizer and waterpipe studies
EVERYBODY PLEASE LISTEN TO LIP! The correctly rolled joint is in fact the most efficient way to smoke, second to a vaporizer. I have read more than just a little bit of literature on the subject and Im not speaking of wikipedia articles either. Im talking about scientific journals and published studies completed by people with PhD's in chemistry and biology. Did you know that the amount of THC that gets wasted in a joint that LIP would roll through uninhaled smoke is about... 5% of the total amount. And another 3% gets destroyed by heat. You destroy 50% of the THC EVERY TIME YOU BRING A FLAME TO THE WEED. Did you also know around 20-25% of the THC in a joint is in the roach?
According to the study that Beachguy in thongs posted, and in fact every study Ive read on the subject EVER, the water in a bong absorbs more THC than tar. It does not matter that THC is not water soluable... the water in a bong is never just pure HydrogenDioxide. The second it goes in your bong it is instantly populated by particulates that filter and trap delta9THC, and when you pull smoke through, more particulates are trapped which in turn trap more THC. Thank Jeebus for the placebo effect right?? Besides I get more high off CBD than THC when I take bong rips, which is why Im not cerebrally enhanced, Im just fuckin baked and lazy, and Im sober again in an hour.
A properly functioning vaporizer gets almost all the THC out of the bud with almost nothing else (including CBD for those who love the body high, so take a small bong rip or something in addition and you'll be obliterated). If you truly want the most out of your weed, invest in a good quality vape. And if you want to make your own, the vaporization point of THC is around 475-480F. The plant material begins to combust at around 496Fahrenheit.
I almost never see a joint that keeps burning when nobody's hitting it. I think it's the filter that makes the difference between a cig and a J. Burning constantly, and J and a bowl are about equally efficient THC delivery systems. The bowl has the advantage when you have to relight it. You waste less weed without having to get the paper hot too. But they both go out about equally, maybe even giving the joint an advantage since it has a smaller fire that has to go out. So yeah, they're about even.
That means the bubbler has the most effective Thc transfer rate.Quote:
Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs
Hmm, it said it did slightly better... I dunno now.
Maybe the vape is better, then joint then bubbler then bong... i dunno
Yes mate, if you burn cocaine it just gets destroyed and has no effect. Just thought i'd save you from wasting even more of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gare0440
Exactly - he just wasted some good white.Quote:
Originally Posted by sman21
Yeah... I mean what happened to the good ole days when people just snorted the shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by sman21
Not to get off topic, but I smoke from a one-hitter bowl, out of a steamroller, and have found that to be the easiest to control, plus the best-tasting.
Yes using a one-hitter such as a dugout/cigarette bat with good weed is the most economical way to smoke. I made a gram last me 3 days lol. The small diameter allows you to just touch the flame to it and let the cherry do the rest of the work. If you are going to use a pipe, use a one-hitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs
Dont pay too much attention to those THC Transfer rates.. any study that proposes results from old data without explaining methodology should be discounted. They left out alot of factors when testing the transfer rate, and the experiment should be completely redone with new methodology.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue
Yeah, to be honest i couldn't care less. As long as i have potent cannabis to inhale, i'm (more) happy.
Go get some clear rolling papers.They only burn when you take a hit.Just got me a new pack and now there the only thing I roll with.The only thing you taste when you hit that shit is your herb.And they burn cleaner than white paper.Damn they burn a long ass time.
partly true but u can see wen u hold it side ways that IS ALSO BURNING WEED!!!
joint are the worst way to use weed not just that they waste weed, cuz its not that big of a diffrence then others way but blunts cost a fair amount of money wen u smoke 2 times a day (;
and yea the best papers are those clear ones even though ive only tried them once the tight
Here is info from some real research:
Approximately 10 percent to 20 percent of the THC is transferred into the body when smoking a joint.
About 40 percent to 50 percent of the THC is transferred into the body when using a pipe.
Oral bioavailability of THC, whether given in the pure form or as THC in marijuana, also is low and extremely variable, ranging between 5 percent and 20 percent. The amount of drug absorbed is about one-third of that which would be absorbed by smoking.
I forget where I found it originally but here GrassCity.Com - How Marijuana worksQuote:
Originally Posted by reaper666
and here Medical Marijuana: Minnesota Bill Dies Without House Vote as Legislature Adjourns | Stop the Drug War (DRCNet)
also NIH Workshop on the Medical Utility of Marijuana - Part 2
and TCES Medical Marijuana
YEP, I actually found real sources, bitches!
errr... i had my reply all ready... lol..
i'll still post it...
when you smoke weed in a bowl... everytiem you light it you're burning extra weed.... the act of lighting it burns off more then just inhaling a solid cherry....
only way a bowl saves over joint is if you only light the bowl once...
i didnt read thye whole thread so this might have been said already, but a joint gives you a green hit every time a bowl only hits green the first light or two