Dizzys 1st go at grow. CFL/Cab W/ Bagseed

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Little update to my log.

Little updated pics. One of the pictures has a plant with some nute burn, the only one with it, another weird thing is the look of the top leaves. They looked like this before the nute burn kicked in.
Another shot of the one with the washed out looking leaves.
All the others are doing great and getting big.
I have some "custom" reflectors coming in the mail and after they're mounted up with lights I will be sending the kids into Flowering land to see who stays and who goes.

Little update to Cabsaga.

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Little update to my log.

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hey just wanna say nice plants diz ill be watchin

Thanks guys. :)

AV, I'd be more than happy to help where I can.
The exhaust is 4" all the way through. It's comprised of thin gauge flex duct and 90's, duct tape, aluminum tape, 4" ABS couplings and blood. :p
There is a 120mm fan that moves the air. The 4" ABS couplings are attached to both sides of the 120mm fan. I attached them with 1" x 4" plates of metal (times 4 on all 4 sides of the fan). You could probably attach the couplings with straight duct tape to the fan, anything to make a seal. If you decide to go the 120mm fan route, make sure your using one that pushes some decent CFM, most are low power/low CFM.
All of this pushes into a scrubber. Scrubber uses kitty litter crystals instead of carbon and the plans to build that can be found in the faqs section.
You'll have to ask if you need more specifics on anything else.

Costs? eh, I did my best to NOT keep track. But I would guesstimate, just on the cab material and venting, that it was at least a couple hundred bucks. Wood, screws, duct, fan, hinges, paint, more wood, tape, insulation, etc. You'll need a hole saw (4") and a powerful drill to get through the walls of the cab.
Oh! There is a 2" and 1-1/2" ABS intake as well.

I'd say 50ish for the scrubber (filter).

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Originally Posted by Dizzy1

Scrubber uses kitty litter crystals instead of carbon

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Hey nice grow you got going there. You certainly seem to handle obstacles well, looks like you know what you're doing.

Question: why did you choose kitty litter crystals instead of activated carbon?

I'm gonna try and watch your grow and hopefully pick up some things. Good luck, keep us updated. Lookin good :thumbsup:

Thanks AR. The crystals do a similar job, are more easy to acquire and much cheaper than carbon. I'm not sure what type of odor carbon produces, if any, but the litter has it's own "aroma". It doesn't smell anything like kitty liter, but once it gets warm it puts out smell that you will notice. The cab was running in a smallish room so there wasn't much of a chance for the smell to dissipate, so it might not be an ordeal for most people. As it is, the smell was odd enough when "someone" was standing over the top of the cab to make them sniff it out. But it didn't smell like green! ;)

I'm full of suggestions on topics, and answers from my short bit of experience and much reading here and elsewhere. Have a question? Just ask. :thumbsup:

Cheers

Glad to see you want to flower them early. CFL's actually really suck in the end unless you keep them small. Keep up the good work.

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Originally Posted by Dizzy1

Thanks AR. The crystals do a similar job, are more easy to acquire and much cheaper than carbon. I'm not sure what type of odor carbon produces, if any, but the litter has it's own "aroma". It doesn't smell anything like kitty liter, but once it gets warm it puts out smell that you will notice. The cab was running in a smallish room so there wasn't much of a chance for the smell to dissipate, so it might not be an ordeal for most people. As it is, the smell was odd enough when "someone" was standing over the top of the cab to make them sniff it out. But it didn't smell like green! ;)

I'm full of suggestions on topics, and answers from my short bit of experience and much reading here and elsewhere. Have a question? Just ask. :thumbsup:

Cheers

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Thanks Dizzy :D

When I do my grow I'm gonna build a carbon filter, but if you say the kitty litter crystals are cheaper I'll use those instead. I don't think I'll have to worry about the aroma. I was going to build an odor neutraliser anyways, so I think that'll help kill the smell if I don't like it. My plan was to build a grow cabinet which would be placed in a small walk in closet. I was gonna have the odor neutraliser outside the cab and kept in the closet, to keep it as stealthy as possible. I might move soon, so that plan is only if I stay.

Oh and I forgot to mention, I liked the way you hooked up that pc fan to that fan controller to the PSU. Great use for extra parts huh :thumbsup:

If you got the parts, might as well use em. ;)

If you do go the closet route, make sure you have some exhaust out of it. The scrubber will take care of the smell, but there will still be a lot of heat in the closet. Seems to be where a fair chunk of people have the 1st issue, not thinking about venting outside the immediate area.

Good luck!

Yeah that was one issue I was concerned about. I was thinking of locking my door at night when I sleep, and then opening the closet door. The closet is kind of between my window and my bathroom, so I was thinking if I kept the bathroom fan on, and kept the window open (with a window fan blowing outside air in) as an active intake, I think it might help some what. All I really need to do from there would be to build somekind of tubing that could reach those couple yards from the exhaust of the cabinet to outside the closet and pointing towards the bathroom. I do realize that having the window open and the fans on won't be much if I can't get the air out of the closet.

Another way I was thinking to deal with it (and this would require more work but would probably be best) would be to actually create a vent on the wall. There's a wall that separates the closet from the room. I could cut through that enough for the size of one of those heating vents. I could stick a vent cover on the room side, and I could feed the exhaust to the closet side of the vent. I could use one of those steel or aluminum converters from the exhaust to the vent.

I don't think anyone would really notice the change too, someone might at one point down the line say, "hey, did you always have that there?" I'd just shrugg it off and say, "I guess..." LoL. Whenever I move out I would have to get rid of it, but it wouldn't be hard to repair. I already have the joint compound, I'd just need the spray for the texture of the wall and the paint to match (and prob. some plywood for backing). Hell, I gotta buy that anyways since I got some other stuff that needs fixin :) ...I'd be tearing up the walls a little anyways I think since I would be installing an electrical outlet or two in the closet anyways...

I'll probably build another odor neutraliser to stick in my room if I want to cover the KL crystal smell. Oh well, I got some time still to plan this out lol I'll just go off like this if you ask me about it :D

Anyways, any initial thoughts about that? No need to go in depth if you don't want to I still got time, when I'm ready I'll be making my own threads for it :jointsmile: ...... wait what did I just do? :wtf: Oh.... SORRY FOR THE HIJACK, trust me, don't get me started I'll just keep rolling :o I hope you don't mind.

Anyways, thanks again Dizzy :thumbsup: Keep us updated :jointsmile:

Hey no worries.
I'm not sure how good venting into your wall would be. Depending on how your walls are constructed, it might just be a sealed cavity (by the wall framing) and not really exhaust anywhere.
Can you go through the ceiling into an Attic or maybe through the floor into a crawlspace?
Does your closet share a wall with the main plumbing wall? Could vent into the sewer vent.
Main problem is the recirculation of the warm air, eventually that will get warmer and warmer, etc, until your steaming your plants.

Might try a test hole in the wall and see if you can vent into it, look up inside to see if it just stops or if you can see a space above the top of the walls.

Sorry, I meant I would make a vent in the wall that separates the closet from my room, with it cut through both sides of the wall (the closet side, and the room side). The Exhaust would be fed directly to the vent on the closet side, and the air would be pushed through the exhaust tube in the closet, through the vented wall, and into my room.

If I kept the window open with the fan on, and the fan in my bathroom on with the bathroom door open, I think it would ventilate ok. The exhaust for the bathroom fan is a good enough distance from the window.

Here I hope this pic illustrates my point, literally. I love mspaint :D . Sorry for the confusion. Thanks again :thumbsup:

Ok, that explains it better. :)
Would work for me.

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...ml#post1545129

Little update to my log. :jointsmile: