please elaborate for me

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Originally Posted by Spoken Word

^lol. monkeys?

Thats like an expierement with kids and candy.
If candies addictive its cause it tastes good.
If the monkeys wanted more its cause they like being high.

We show proof that weed isn't addictive everyday.
We don't break into people houses for a "fix" or suck our dealers dicks for a "fix".

That' shows more than any study with monkeys, imo

and i hope im not offending u.. juss being real

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candy contains sugar, which is actually an adictive substance. kids are attracted to candy because of course it tastes good with all the different kinds of flavors. also it has tons of flashy crazy colors and shapes and forms. you can get a sugar high, sugar crash, and need more to come back up, just like caffiene.

you might not be breaking into peoples houses for whatever drug you do, but thats just a severe level of addiction. im sure there are people that steal from their parents for weed, or sell or pawn things for weed. its not too crazy to imagine. your level of addiction is gonna be predisposed to your biological makeup and the amount of intake of course.

also i dont know what you mean by "weed isnt addictive, so i smoke it". either thats signs of being addicted and in denial, or are you saying the reason you smoke weed is because you know you wont want more? i didnt get that part.

just to throw it out there..im not some hater, i smoke weed myself. :rasta:

yea, i prolly am in denial. lol.
i mean, i've quit before and i def. am goin to have to quit again.
lol.
but it isn't a problem.
doesn't addiction, in the simplest form, mean that you need the drug?
i overcame, cocaine "addiction". lol. and i was a mild case compared to a whole shit full of people.
not to mention, tweakers, junkies, crackheads-
all drugs that are Physically addictive.

and.. i believe mdma is NOT physically addictive, like weed.
correct me if im wrong.
and a lot of probation papers say weed is not physically addictive, around my area so i dunno..

:hippy:

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Originally Posted by halfassedjediknight

well we know whos the bio major and whos still in high school so its cool, i didnt tell you to believe what you read, i said dont. so dont. believe what you want. its still addictive.

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Some of the stupidest people I've met I've met in college.

Marijuana is not physically addictive, as you don't suffer physical withdrawal. It is habit-forming, or psychologically addictive, however, in the same way sex and oreos are addictive.

There's no telling what the affect of legalizing all drugs would be, as we have yet to see it. Just because it's a person's choice does not make a person less dangerous or less inhibited while on the drug. Plus, some substances are so addictive and so dangerous, making it legal for public consumption could cause an epidemic. Marijuana is very mild, comparatively, which lends the argument for legalization.

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Originally Posted by Spoken Word

yea, i prolly am in denial. lol.
i mean, i've quit before and i def. am goin to have to quit again.
lol.
but it isn't a problem.
doesn't addiction, in the simplest form, mean that you need the drug?
i overcame, cocaine "addiction". lol. and i was a mild case compared to a whole shit full of people.
not to mention, tweakers, junkies, crackheads-
all drugs that are Physically addictive.

and.. i believe mdma is NOT physically addictive, like weed.
correct me if im wrong.
and a lot of probation papers say weed is not physically addictive, around my area so i dunno..

:hippy:

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everyone will differ on whether or not weed is physically and/or psychologically addictive no matter what.

there are symptoms of physical addiction, like being restless or being nauseated or having insomnia.

then there are psychological symptoms like cravings or random intense dreams. its all there! there could even be more symptoms, its all different for different people. no one is the same.

being able to quit is an act of willpower, anyone can quit a drug. this doesnt make it not addictive necessarilly.

hmm.
even if what you say is true, compared to everything else on the planet, including people that are "addicted" to sex, money, n food.
our plant has little or a gentle addiction, which in my opinion means its a mental thing that you can't overcome.

n im too high to keep discussing it cause i've yet to meet someone that NEEDED weed.

peace, my brother.

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Originally Posted by Spoken Word

hmm.
even if what you say is true, compared to everything else on the planet, including people that are "addicted" to sex, money, n food.
our plant has little or a gentle addiction, which in my opinion means its a mental thing that you can't overcome.

n im too high to keep discussing it cause i've yet to meet someone that NEEDED weed.

peace, my brother.

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if people didnt need it, there wouldnt be such a thing as medical marijuana. maybe thats wrong of me to say. but there are benefits, and some people really need those certain benefits. they helped relieve pain with my ulcers and panic disorders, but im sure there are other things that could have helped me as well, so i dont know what to say about that.

gentle or not, addiction is addiction. it brings me back to something I said about 'levels of addiction'. the range is far and wide.

still, ive quit weed after about 7 years and I get headaches, and my stomach hurts. I cant fall asleep unless its after 1 or 2 am.

thats not to say that everything I say is based on MY personal experience. there are seriously studies that have shown signs of withdrawal symptoms, as well as either 'addiction' or just plain love for the drug. call it what you will, tomato, to-mah-toe. i dunno.

everyone has their own opinion and belief, and thats the way the world works. its good because more opinions mean more info and data and thoughts and ideas, which comes to more breakthroughs.

we havnt even scratched the surface of anything.

how about if i had a chart from the miami-dade- county clerk of courts showing that marijuana has a 'No' under 'Physically' Addictive.
would you tell me that my friends over there in the courts are lying?
I've always hated em but i gotta believe em this time.

not saying your opinion is false.
I've mastered the difficult task of realizing that there's two sides to....EVERYTHING. lol.

im just tryin to tell you that marijuana is already known to be NOT physically addictive. like mdma.
any addiction that comes from either is mental, emotional, or phsycological.

all easy if not obviously less harder on ANYBODY than a 'PHYSICAL' addiction. which is the one you usually need to go 'rehab'.

i might be COMPLETLY wrong about the following.

i don't think rehab will let you in if you tell them *JUST* weed.

has someone tried it?

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Originally Posted by Spoken Word

how about if i had a chart from the miami-dade- county clerk of courts showing that marijuana has a 'No' under 'Physically' Addictive.
would you tell me that my friends over there in the courts are lying?
I've always hated em but i gotta believe em this time.

not saying your opinion is false.
I've mastered the difficult task of realizing that there's two sides to....EVERYTHING. lol.

im just tryin to tell you that marijuana is already known to be NOT physically addictive. like mdma.
any addiction that comes from either is mental, emotional, or phsycological.

all easy if not obviously less harder on ANYBODY than a 'PHYSICAL' addiction. which is the one you usually need to go 'rehab'.

i might be COMPLETLY wrong about the following.

i don't think rehab will let you in if you tell them *JUST* weed.

has someone tried it?

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I wouldnt say your 'friends' are lying, id ask them what theyre basing that on.

i base my theory and belief off of what data that has been presented. ive seen proof of psychological and physical withdrawal symptoms, so i believe it is addicting both mentally and physically.

also i dont know about any rehab, but i know there are rehabilitation clinics specifically for marijuana addiction and abuse.

Addiction-
–noun the state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma.

Maybe your right.
If that's the case, you should'nt be smoking anything to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Spoken Word

Addiction-
â??noun the state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma.

Maybe your right.
If that's the case, you should'nt be smoking anything to begin with.

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theres lots of things we shouldnt be doing. everyone has their vices though.

agreed.
ANYTHING in excess in bad.
to say the least.

I feel bad because this thread sounds like it should be in the medical section now.

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Originally Posted by thcbongman

Weed isn't the same as other drugs. They're all different.

The reason they should be all be legalized is when you take drugs, you are harming noone but yourself. Why make that illegal?

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Except alcohol (if you drink and drive)

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Originally Posted by Spoken Word

agreed.
ANYTHING in excess in bad.
to say the least.

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Hell, even too much oxygen is bad for you!

I partly agree with halfassedjediknight

I'm just saying for marijuana specifically it's a waste of money for the government to protect us from this drug that isn't hurting anyone.

As for serious drugs, I'm not sure if legalization of them would be a good idea. But who knows the true outcome if it were to happen : /