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There's nothing wrong with his point. If you are going to come to America, learn English. If I immigrated to Germany, I'd be expected to speak German....it's common sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by FreeVenice
And not all illegals want to become citizens. I had a friend who didn't, he lived in America for a few years, had no desire of becoming American, one day decided he didn't want to live here anymore and went to Spain.
But, why would you not be ok with people doing so. Does it effect anyone here, enlighten me cause I don't get why other peoples lives should be up to us. . .
Edit: and thats not common sense it's Nationalizm. . .
Language barriers affect how others conduct business, you have to be communicate with people in that country. What do you think would happen if everyone spoke their own language, we would spend much wasted time decoding what's been said, rather than react to it.
I'm not saying anyone has to strip themselves of their identity or culture. I'm not saying to have everyone speak only English. But the fact is English is the national language here in America. You can't expect yourself to live in another country without learning to communicate with the people and learning some of their customs.
It's a sense of respect a person should have when you inhabit yourself in a place foreign to you.
What do you get mad when you go to Taco Bell? give me a break, your acting like the US was just naturaly an english speaking country. . . Did Andrew Jackson speak Native American when he sentanced them to death. . . don't give me that language shit, your probly just upset cause they speak there language around you and you dont try to understand, no one is stopping you from learning spanish(in this cause, since"every imagrant is Mexican.). . . lol whatever
I forget how racist people are toward Mexicans and Latino's. . .
"Clueless", he says.Quote:
Originally Posted by FreeVenice
I'm from Brooklyn, in New York City - and we have about 150 nationalities and ethnic groups living here. Most of them are legal residents, or American citizens, but some are neither.
I've answered your question, so how about telling us where you're from?
What does this have to do with race in anyway? In fact, point out when I even mentioned anything about latinos? The only thing I even mentioned that even close to mentioning the spanish language is mentioning the country Spain.
To assume I'm racist because you should make attempts to learn the language of the country you live in? Do you realize how fucking dumb that is? All I can counter is I'm not the racist one, I'm not the one that made this a race issue.
True as well. But there has to be a universal system for people to communicate and understand, and unfortunately it's mostly through language.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billionfold
I use to have a timeline of American oppression, or at least on our soil.
it was some thing like:
1492-Native American
1619-1789?-African
1838-Mexican
1840-Chinese
1840-Irish
1942-Japanese
Still-African-American
1980's-Cuban (don't know much about it)
still-Muslim
2007-and I guess it's the Beaners again right. . .
of course this isn't a perfect timeline. . .
I live in Los Angeles, I'm a 3rd generation citizen if it even matters. There is plenty of people, and plenty of reality here. . .
I have traced my family tree to this land before California existed so I guess I could come off as a dick on this sort of subject. . . sorry for the hostility. . . This countrys history just pisses me off. . .
In cities like New York, not only will you have to learn Spanish, but in order to understand, and be understood, you'll have to learn every other language that is spoken in the world - including all Native American languages and dialects, Italian, Spanish, Dutch, German, French, French Creole, Hebrew, Yiddish, Russian, Hungarian, Tagalog (Filipino), Korean, Albanian, Turkish, Arabic, Romanian, Bosnian, Greek, Slovenian, Estonian, Lithuanian, , Norwegian, Finnish, Serbo-Croatian (or Croato-Serbian), Cantonese and over one hundred more.Quote:
Originally Posted by thcbongman
Good luck!