Disrespecting Jessica

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy BA,

I found yer reply to be so horrific and inhuman,that I felt the need to reply at once.

Any woman or girl,who becomes pregnant as a result of rape,should be made to understand that the child is innocent,and not to abort the child just because they feel that the child is not innocent-PUNISH THE RAPIST,INSTEAD !

I'm going to post a picture of a 'fetus' at 22 weeks of age-look at the child closely and tell me that it's a "thing that should be scooped out and flushed down the toilet"..if you still insist that the child in the picture,is a "thing"-then count yerself amongst the DAMNED ! :mad: As we speak,studies are being done to show that children in the womb,do experience pain..if you still insist that the child is a "thing",that feels no pain,when I'm vindicated,then i find that it is you who is without a scrap of humanity.

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If that was the fetus that would become Hitler, Mao, Stalin, or any number of vicious criminals it should be best flushed even if a rape hadn't occured.

This weird fetish that Xians have with fetus' boggles the mind. Twenty Two weeks is two-thirds of a normal nine month pregnancy. I would think that it would have been aborted at that point by the victim. If not she should still have the option of doing it - right up to the end.

A woman or girl that becomes pregnant due to a rape, according to you, "should be made to understand that the child is innocent......". So, let me get this straight: You think that if she aborts the fetus she is a murderer, and therefore as bad, or worse, than the criminal(s) who raped her.

Do you believe that she should be put in jail, or given the death penalty? I'd guess that O'Reilly would support jail-time. If you support the death penalty for murder, and want abortion to be outlawed, what method of execution do you favor for women that have illegal abortions, and the rogue doctors that perform them? Would lethal injection be OK, or would you prefer frying them in Old Sparky?

crazy shit goin down here...

i agree with ba...i think tor, youre being a touch too conservative

raped victims have no sort of divine obligation to protect the life of some unborn child they didnt want or was forced into them in the first place...

child sexual abusers should go to jail for a long time with no plea bargain and be forced to identify themselves when/if they are free at some point in the long future

however i highly respect anyone who follows the route you suggest tor...
to give birth to the child and let them have a life...give him/her up for adoption or even...in what i imagine would be a rare case, Raise him/her

but i feel abortion for rape victims is one of, if not the only most logical forms of abortion

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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat

These criminals deserve capital punishment.

Bill O'Reilly does not support the death penalty. He is also against abortion, so if a rape victim survives, and is pregnant as a result of the crime, she must have the bastard child of the assailant. O'Reilly's religious beliefs do nothing to help the innocent victims. The man's thinking is sick.

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Can you say....ADOPTION?

And dont give them the death penalty, its too easy. Instead put them in General Population in Maximum Security Prison.

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Originally Posted by Myth1184

Can you say....ADOPTION?

And dont give them the death penalty, its too easy. Instead put them in General Population in Maximum Security Prison.

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Would YOU adopt it? What do you tell it about it's father? Suppose it inherits the violent tendencies? It's up to the mother if she wants to carry it to term, I guess, but most victims would go for a rape-scrape and get rid of the thing ASAP.

I wouldn't waste our tax money keeping the rapist in jail, but unfortunately the crime is not a capital offense, so that's the best we can do at this point.

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Originally Posted by Zimzum

While I believe a child rapist should be sentenced to state sanctioned castration with jail time in general population. As for Jessica's law.. I don't agree with it all to fully support it.

I'm an ex felon. And if I gotta find a new job it can be tough. Jessica's law extends the punishment beyond the sentence. Someone like me just having the felony on my record is enough to lose employment opportunities.. Even though I've had no run ins with the law since. I'm not the drug addicted, violent, scary mofo I used to be. But it still haunts me. I know I didn't rape a kid or hurt a kid. But I did try to stab two mall security officers. I've done my time, probation, community service but I'm still treated as a felon to most people.

In my case, what if my record kept me from getting a job that could support my bills? What would keep me from continuing to basically be a thug in order to just get by? Child rapist are sick but for those that can rehab and make a positive change in there life I think it maybe worth it to punish them yes, but not to restrict them so much that they can't even attempt to better themselves.

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I understand your point Zim, but there are some acts which are simply heinous and not deserving of mercy. A violent crime against a helpless child falls into this catagory. Extending the punsihment beyond the sentence in these cases just means the sentence wasn't long enough. Seriously. These aren't dumb kids, or someone down on their luck, simply making a mistake and learning from it. These people are evil predators and the cases of repeat offenders greatly outweigh the cases of successful rehabilitation.

As far as I'm concerned, anyone convicted of child molestation should be locked and a 6x6x6' cell, no windows, no company, no nothing, until they die. And if that is cruel and unusual, to fucking bad. They should have thought about that before raping a 5yo.

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Originally Posted by Fengzi

I understand your point Zim, but there are some acts which are simply heinous and not deserving of mercy. A violent crime against a helpless child falls into this catagory. Extending the punsihment beyond the sentence in these cases just means the sentence wasn't long enough. Seriously. These aren't dumb kids, or someone down on their luck, simply making a mistake and learning from it. These people are evil predators and the cases of repeat offenders greatly outweigh the cases of successful rehabilitation.

As far as I'm concerned, anyone convicted of child molestation should be locked and a 6x6x6' cell, no windows, no company, no nothing, until they die. And if that is cruel and unusual, to fucking bad. They should have thought about that before raping a 5yo.

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I'm just not sure if I'd want them to have padded walls or not.

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Originally Posted by Hardcore Newbie

I'm just not sure if I'd want them to have padded walls or not.

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No pads! Cold, hard cement is still better than they deserve.

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Originally Posted by Fengzi

No pads! Cold, hard cement is still better than they deserve.

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Save the padded cells for people like O'Reilly and Ron Paul.

if i was in charge, rapists would be 'hung on the courthouse lawn' and abortion for raped women would be availabe in a drive thru window.