So much anger in this music forum...can't we just get along?

fuck yeah I'm arrogant and thats the beauty of it. When i say rap is crap, it means i don't enjoy listening to it, and so why give it respect? who the fuck says i have to give it respect? See this is what i am trying to get across. Theres people who go with the mainstream of society, that don't do things that are frowned upon. Fuck those people. I am going to do what I please regardless of what other people think. Its all about perception. In America we see people that are fat as being a problem, who the fuck says it has to be? There are people that think people from Iraq are terrible people for what they do to there country, we have no say in what they think, we aren't the makers of all law. Good and Evil is not real, it is only made up by society. Fuck that.

With that said I'm not going to go around killing people, cause thats not what i want. In my eyes thats a terrible thing, in others its not.

With all this said, fuck rap. You cant spell crap without rap!

As far as making music, i do. I've been playing music for the past 10 years. I have my own home studio. The thing thats different is, i make music that i like, and dont give a damn if its a success. I make music that i feel like making. Some days ill throw down some folk, others ill go all synth and throw down some flaming lips type shit, its just whatever im feelin.

I am moving to nashville for a recording engineering school. You might think how are you going to handle recording songs for people in genres you dont like. Easy, its not like shitty music is so intallerable. Also with my part in it, i might even be able to help improve the artist. who knows.

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Originally Posted by B.Basher

The way I see it, as long as music has a fan base, no matter how big, it's deserved of a little respect. It's obviously impossible to like everything you hear, but to say that a style or genre is music is 'crap' is just arrogance and ignorance. If it's so crap, get your ass in gear and make something spectacular that EVERYONE will like.

Oh wait, you can't, so shut up. :jointsmile:

PS: I hate RnB with a passion.

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Something has a fan base so it deserves respect? So what has Britney Spears ever done to deserve my respect? She has never written a song, or sung in tune. She's a burden to humanity, and I see no reason to respect her.

Bands like Panic at the Disco and the Killers, why should I have any respect for them? They were put together by the same people who brought you such insulting acts like the Backstreet Boys and N'Sync. They've never done anything new or interesting, they just feed off the ignorance of the middle class. They're lying to you, the entire business, feeding you the same garbage they always have, and you're paying them to do it. Why can they do this? Because most people don't care about music as an art, it's just entertainment to them. Most people couldn't hear the difference between a terrible guitarist and complete brilliance. They just like what's familiar, and that's fine for some.

im diggin those tunes you got on your myspace sonicbloom. The horns and drum beat are kick'n on Oh savier rough. Kind of reminds me of Calexico. Nice influences too. Keep making music.

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Originally Posted by mafyew

im diggin those tunes you got on your myspace sonicbloom. The horns and drum beat are kick'n on Oh savier rough. Kind of reminds me of Calexico. Nice influences too. Keep making music.

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yea, it does sound a bit like Calexico.

It sounds like a lot of things, Modest Mouse, Bright Eyes, Jail, Grandaddy, Built To Spill to name a few. At the same time it sounds polar opposite of them. That's a hard feat for most bands, to balance your own creation without sounding too much like a singular influence. I gave it a 2nd listen, and it sounds more pleasureable than my first listen, hearing subtle sounds I didn't hear before. This is really good stuff.

If you don't mind me asking, when you finish with an EP, demo, something like that, is there anyway I can get a copy?

Some good points sonic bloom. We share that same stance on manufactured popular music. The way I see it is music is music. For every shitty Britney or backstreet boys track there was at least a creative musical mind that wrote it in the first place. It's easy to stick the semi-decent voice of a retard over any old track, dress them in as little as possible and stick them on MTV to mooch off the narrow minded culture that crave superiority. Justin Timberlake may be an irritating, pretty boy cheese muffin but i'd be happy to listen to the majority of his instrumentals had he not already ruined them for me with his incessant voice. Nahsayin? :p

I'm stoned and tend to drift in and out of the 'hopeless commercialisation' theory :thumbsup: .

EDIT: Agreed. Good tracks man.

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Originally Posted by mafyew

As far as making music, i do. I've been playing music for the past 10 years. I have my own home studio. The thing thats different is, i make music that i like, and dont give a damn if its a success. I make music that i feel like making. Some days ill throw down some folk, others ill go all synth and throw down some flaming lips type shit, its just whatever im feelin.

I am moving to nashville for a recording engineering school. You might think how are you going to handle recording songs for people in genres you dont like. Easy, its not like shitty music is so intallerable. Also with my part in it, i might even be able to help improve the artist. who knows.

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This is in fact why alot of home studio producers do their thing. Fed up with the corporate garbage we're fed as if thats what we're into. So lemme make a point..
I've also been in the industry for a number of years. I'm not huge and people I produce for aren't either, I really don't care about that. On a major label.. The mainstream is the target. On an indi label. One can have just as much success "getting music out" as a major label. I myself have grown to despise the rap thats being put out, but that doesn't mean "rap" is crap. Just the rap that you're listennig to.. Remember when it was the shit?? Well we were probably about teen age when we were most brainwashable. The music coming out now is tailored to todays teens.

I support the non main music movement, but really in every industry, there are people like us, home power users but really. Our music doesn't spread like wildfire from overplaying on the radio, multiple hudreds of thousands of downloads, hits, leads etc. That generates interest. So you gotta at least turn your eye and don't say anything at all, or give em a golf clap for going through the bullshit you know we go through if you work with artists and distribution companies, marketing, shows, merchandise etc etc.. Sure you can hate but usually those that do, aren't doing something EVERYDAY to achieve a goal and ultimately are pretty worthless to themselves. We all dance to the beat of our own drum, trick is to say everything sounds good, cause then it gets better, if you don't like whats out in the waves, change the station, or burn a cd of your original hits and bump em down the street for all to hear. Thats always fun. So rep Pro.G man. Promote self empowerment and being different cause thats what we're really not wanting, the same ol garbage. Industry's changing, help it to.. Otherwise, we waste our breath. OPEN MIND please... It can't hurt..

I'm glad that my posts were taken the right way, I thought it sounded a bit harsh, but I can't help but get passionate over music.

Thanks for all the nice words about the music too. There will be a new song up hopefully tonight. It's a trumpet and piano piece, I wanted to write something in the vain of jazz impressionism like later Miles Davis and Thelonious Monk. It's a really rough recording, even the playing is sketchy, but I think that adds more to the vein of the style really. Plus, the pianist and trumpeter (I know that's weird, but that's the correct word) were sight reading it.

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Originally Posted by thcbongman

If you don't mind me asking, when you finish with an EP, demo, something like that, is there anyway I can get a copy?

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It will be for sale or download when it's finished. Probably through Myspace, CDbaby.com, shows and whoever else I can get to sell it. There are a few songs I'll be recording for charity too. Add me on myspace, it's updated fairly often.

Sonic good grooves man,
Lemme hear that horn do some blues style shit man, I'm left wanting some skills from that trumpet, or add a sax player.. Keep on keepin on..

lolz, when u got people comparing crap music to music that is actually good, u deserve to be shut up. end of story. I dont even go into the threads of music i dont like.