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there is greed, unenlightened self interest, will that do. it would have to be a win/win situation before anyone would consider negotiations and that's not even the hard part. the real difficulty would be convincing the parties involved that there was any benefit to peace when warfare is so lucrative.Quote:
Originally Posted by medicinal
there's a reason my mood is permanently set on depressed
Very well put....this is the only Part of it i had a major Problem with....Quote:
Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
How do you incorperate people that want to kill you?
How do you incorperate people that rule with Despotism?
How do you incorperate people that will put you wife, and Mom In a berka and backhand them for looking men in the eye....(taliban Justice)?
We will incorperate them AFTER the reformation......
This is out there I know.......If you turn the place into glass with that start the reformation? How do you start the reformation?
Will Iran Nuke Isreal? Do we want to find out? with you using words like Zionist...Might be OK with you.....????
i'm sure many people in the middle east are saying the same sorts of things about us. just as in the us, there are people there who want no part of constant warfare. it is leaders who start these things, leaders who rule through fear and the desperation of their people. it's the people who have to come together, the warmongering leaders can all rot in whatever hell they please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bong30
Personally there is only a select part of "our precious civilization" that I would be willing to save and it sure as hell isn't the part with all the iPod's...Quote:
Originally Posted by Torog
Well, I guess the time has come for thermonuclear warfare, the population is growing beyond sustainable parameters and there are a lot of crazy leaders, ours included. They tell me the best place to be is at ground zero as you won't even know what happened. There are advantages, no funeral expenses to start, no worrying about nuclear war anymore, or how our children will fare in this fucked up world,. just you're here one second and cosmic dust the next. If you have a belief in an afterlife, this will be your chance to check it out, Hell, maybe even the infadels will get some virgin action. Anyway the real bummer would be if you were the only one left alive, left to rot from radiation poisening, just some wonderful things to think about before you vote some more assholes in that like war!
i find it hard to believe that w and his cronies actually enjoy the thought of death and destruction, that would take a real psychopath and he is merely a high functioning moron. i think these fools honestly believe that they have a true vision of the righteous path to a glorious future. that makes them even more frightening.Quote:
Originally Posted by medicinal
and i thought i was delusional!
War is what humans do......
period.
That is what we are good at.
Peace is a dream...death is real.
war is what humans have always done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bong30
this doesn't mean we aren't capable of moving away from the follies of the past. embracing the baser instincts of humanity is a sure fire way of ensuring our destruction.
Im just saying,,,Im no history major.
Earth History=....is war, with Peace breaking out every once and a while.....
Before Conservitve, republican..... I am A REALIST....
That is why MAD worked with ratioanal countries......Now we dont even have MAD. Great....
I dont want war, but i realize we need to either BOMB, Islam into a reformation, or hope that it will just implode in on its self.......
while it is imploding in on its self (secular violance)though....it might take us with it....
UNTIL THEY LOVE THERE CHILDEREN MORE THEN THEY HATE US......WAR....
(radical Islam highjacked the religon , and is holding the world hostge like Dr evil, but for real.....)
I love my childeren more than i hate them, but now the best defence is a kick the shit out of them offence.......
Remember 9-11...... I say lets go into Saudi Arabia and get those text books right HUH???.....Im a nut job yes...... I know the enemy, within and afar.
Very nicely put.Quote:
Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity