realizations

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Originally Posted by bud luv

The most rational of agendas is to maximize your own pleasure.

When people have a full-time job they have money, but no time to do anything. When people have no job they have the time to do things but not the money.

Society says you should work 50 hours a week until you're close to death. Society says you should buy a house and cars and expensive things, but then your bills tie you to your job and you don't have the freedom to enjoy your possessions like you want to. Society says you should wake up at 5am to commute to your cubicle to devote your life to being a cog in a corporate empire you don't give a shit about, then return home too tired to do anything but watch an episode of American Idol, pay your bills, eat a T.V. Dinner, and pass out and get ready for work the next day.

Religion says you should accept your crappy life because you will go to a better place when you die. Religion was invented by Kings who wanted to keep their peasants obedient.

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Society says we should do all these, but who is it up to in the end....us. We choose wether or not we work 50,60 hours a week, we choose wether we continue or education and work for a "career" that we "want" to do. Now i know people and i have friends who went both ways. Some hate their jobs some dont, my job will offer me opportunities to do exciting things at work, work with children and make a differance. I can live with that and enjoy it.

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Originally Posted by Lit Up

Society says we should do all these, but who is it up to in the end....us. We choose wether or not we work 50,60 hours a week, we choose wether we continue or education and work for a "career" that we "want" to do. Now i know people and i have friends who went both ways. Some hate their jobs some dont, my job will offer me opportunities to do exciting things at work, work with children and make a differance. I can live with that and enjoy it.

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It's definitely up to US what we do. But 90% of the workforce is doing something with no depth that they'll never truly be rewarded for; they've been brainwashed to think this is all there is to life, and that there really are no alternatives. And to most people, perception is reality. I'm happy for you that you've found something that you enjoy, though.

Thanks and i do agree with you on some your aspects. I work construction in summer time and i was getting up at 5am and walking in my door at 7pm, made summer go real fast plus i made a ton of money.

There's allways a job to be done by someone that doesn't want to do it. Unless you have a better idea on how to provide food and shelter for my family, I'm gonna stick to my job.

I don't have a better idea.

The point is that it is a vicous struggle. I graduated from college and within a few months was making 70k doing a job I completely hated. It took up all of my time, I couldn't even enjoy my one friggin day off because in the back of my mind I knew I'd have to get up at the buttcrack of dawn the next morning to kiss people's asses and sell them overpriced crap. Nobody gave a shit about anything but the bottom line. At first I enjoyed some of the challenge of it, but after a while I felt like I was losing my soul. I aged 10 years in a year and a half. Right now I'm trying to start a few small businesses and hoping one of them takes off to the point where I can hire someone else to run it, because the way I see it, that's my only chance at freedom. It's not looking too good though.

i realized, while tripping vagina, that there is no god. i've never felt happier with my beliefs since then. before that, i toiled over this belief and that religion, never finding one that truely made me feel comfortable or truely happy. after i realized that its OK not to believe, that I dont need a god or goddess or higher power or heaven or afterlife to feel secure in this world, i felt like at last i had found what i truely believe in. i dont need a religion because i believe in myself, i believe in nature and the universe, that humans are not supreme beings but simply a coincidential passenger on this wild cosmic ride. i have never felt better about my life and its purpose since i have abandonded the futile search for a religion and god. believe in yourself, people. you dont need to believe in god, just yourself, fellow beings and the earth.

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Originally Posted by bud luv

The most rational of agendas is to maximize your own pleasure.

When people have a full-time job they have money, but no time to do anything. When people have no job they have the time to do things but not the money.

Society says you should work 50 hours a week until you're close to death. Society says you should buy a house and cars and expensive things, but then your bills tie you to your job and you don't have the freedom to enjoy your possessions like you want to. Society says you should wake up at 5am to commute to your cubicle to devote your life to being a cog in a corporate empire you don't give a shit about, then return home too tired to do anything but watch an episode of American Idol, pay your bills, eat a T.V. Dinner, and pass out and get ready for work the next day.

Religion says you should accept your crappy life because you will go to a better place when you die. Religion was invented by Kings who wanted to keep their peasants obedient.

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THANK YOU CAPITALISM!

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Originally Posted by BizzleLuvin

THANK YOU CAPITALISM!

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Unfortunately Socialism works even less well. Capitalism is by far the best economic ideology that has been implemented, but it has negative attributes. The shithole commie countries are way worse off than we are, though I couldn't say from personal experience. ideally I'd like to take 50 people to a deserted tropical island, build shacks, and fish, farm, play music, smoke and fuck all day.

And what's "tripping vagina"? I have 2 guesses....

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Originally Posted by bud luv

Unfortunately Socialism works even less well. Capitalism is by far the best economic ideology that has been implemented, but it has negative attributes. The shithole commie countries are way worse off than we are, though I couldn't say from personal experience. ideally I'd like to take 50 people to a deserted tropical island, build shacks, and fish, farm, play music, smoke and fuck all day.

And what's "tripping vagina"? I have 2 guesses....

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The capitalists want you to believe that socialism works even less well. Who does it work less well for? You have to wonder if the 42 million without health insurance would be covered if this was a socialist society, of course they would be. Socialism is worse for those who seek, and do, control us and better for the masses of people.

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Originally Posted by xblackdogx

The capitalists want you to believe that socialism works even less well. Who does it work less well for? You have to wonder if the 42 million without health insurance would be covered if this was a socialist society, of course they would be. Socialism is worse for those who seek, and do, control us and better for the masses of people.

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but if you use China and the U.S.S.R. as examples of socialism, you can see how it's easier said than done. In a very idealistic sense, socialism sounds great -- but there's no practical way to implement its tenets. In practice, socialism is a far better tool for those who seek to control us than capitalism is. In the U.S.S.R. you had people rioting in the street over loaves of bread, in the PRC you have the most inefficient country imaginable. Internal corruption in these countries was/is higher in those countries than it ever was here. Additionally, people as individuals had far fewer "rights" than we have.

I expect there to be some form of nat'l health insurance within the next 5-10 years anyways.