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Sounds like Obama has won the heart of Hollywood though........there's the cash needed for a good ol' flame fest. LOL........sounds like camp Hillary "may" have had something to do with that childhood schooling thing too. Maybe the games already begun?:DQuote:
Originally Posted by medicinal
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Why can't we just have a president who isn't named either Bush or Clinton. Enough already of the both of you. They have been in a pissing match the last 20 years and the only person getting screwed is you and I. Actually thats not even true anymore because we seem to be trying to screw alot of people. And I for one DO NOT LIKE IT!
All of that stuff in the so-called "Obama truth" video is so easily refutable it's almost funny. But more than anything, it spins information to make him and his wife look bad when it's not any more sinister than anything else other senators and their wives or other well-paid professional people have done. The price of his house? That's what houses cost where he lives, and if you look at the prices Republican senators paid for their houses, you'll see far more expensive ones--and you'll find business deals with questionable people, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
The salary paid to the Treehouse Foods CEO? Check out executive salaries sometime in Forbes or Fortune. That wasn't particularly remarkable. They execs at the technology company I worked for before going back to school made more than that, and our company wasn't nearly as profitable as Wal-Mart, either. Thousands of CEO salaries in the U.S. are astonishingly unjustified when profits are taken into account. But they tried to make it like Michelle Obama was the cause of that Treehouse CEO's executive salary or that Barack Obama was somehow wrong for having said in a speech that Wal-Mart, which is one of the most notorious corporate offenders for hiring low-wage workers and not paying them enough or offering health coverage. His statement that that's a problem that needs fixing is right on.
That video also took issue with Michelle Obama's salary. Check out the salaries of hospital VPs sometime. It's right in line with what they make, and the fact that she got an increase isn't a sign of evil inequity or greed. It's simply how they're compensated.
The claim that was funniest to me was the part about Barack's wife's hospital "charging uninsured minorities three and a half times more than insured patients." Again, this is not something that's a sign of that particular hospital's evil inequity. It's how all hospitals everywhere work. You can confirm this for yourself. Insured people pay discounted prices because their insurance companies have negotiated discounts for health care services. Uninsureds--and this isn't just minorites, although the video spin made it sound this way--are charged top-dollar full retail prices for health care. They're charged that because they don't have the benefit of insurance discounts. Notice I used the term "charged" because they don't actually pay those prices. They can't afford to pay them. No one without insurance can, and many who have insurance can't afford their smaller, discounted percentages, either. What happens is the hospitals write-off those unpaid amounts and take tax writeoffs and pass the remaining losses off to their insured patients through steadily rising prices. This is all part of the completely unfair, hospital-corporation- and insurance-company-driven healthcare system we have in this country. And it's one that Obama is wise enough to know needs changing.
For the uninformed out there, watch out for things like candidate-truth sites. They're a lot like the 911Truth site. Prepared for folks without enough discrimination or informaton to see through the spin and understand what the real facts are.
Now Birdgirl, the right has been putting up with this same crap for years and years.......I think a bit of the ol' spin in the opposite direction is alright. LOL....he's still better than Hillary!!:)
In my book, if their politicians....left or right....their are probably skeletons in the closet.;)
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I don't think the right has a lock on putting up with political mud-slinging and lies. The left has gotten more than its share, too, dating back to the late 50s and 60s. There was mud slung against Adlai Stevenson and Kennedy and it's been slung both ways ever since. Bill and Hillary have certainly had plenty, too. It goes both ways. Always has. Always will. If anyone thinks one party has it worse than another, they've not been paying enough attention.
The same is true of a Republicans-get-persecuted-worse point that Bong30 keeps making and I keep correcting when I see it. He keeps saying when Bush and the Republicans won their elections, the Democrats alone cried voter fraud. But, of course, that's not true at all. There were Republican complaints of voter fraud after this latest Democratic Congressional victory in at least five states. In two Congressional races, that's why there were recounts and the results didn't come in for a couple of days. Those claims go both ways. Only uninformed partisans see it happening to just one side.
The truth is that pretty much everyone--politicians and non-politicians alike--has skeletons in his closet. Ever ponder what'd happen if you decided to run for office? It's scary to contemplate.
LMAO! My election theme song is the first line of my signature.Quote:
Originally Posted by birdgirl73
Now Birdgirl........are you stating that a pillar of innocence, upstanding member of society, father, role model such as myself could possibly have a skeleton?:eek:
LMAO....just you wait, medicinal is planning on making a thread in my honor. :D
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They'd have a field day with you if you ran for office!!! Heck, they'd have a field day with me. It makes my head spin to think how fast someone'd turn up my membership on this site and pull out all my pro-cannabis statements and use those against me. Fortunately, I don't ever plan to run for office. . .Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
If you ever run, P4B, I'll come on up and be your communications director and help with your spin control. . . .
LOL.....it's a deal!;)Quote:
Originally Posted by birdgirl73
Now ya see there folks........I got a bipartisan camp forming.:D Psycho4bud "08"! :angelsmiley:
Have a good one!:jointsmile:
Now ya see there folks........I got a bipartisan camp forming. Psycho4bud "08"!
Say, would you legalize freedom? I may vote for you also~LOL~.
have alice play at the inaugurationQuote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
but make it in '12, it will take us a while to rouse your supporters from their happy stupor