the hate against vaporizers
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Originally Posted by LIP
lol... Enjoy yourself :thumbsup:
Cos we dont couldnt give a fuck less.
Ever heard of personal preferance?
Obviously not.
Not to mention the downsides to vapes...
They cost a lot of money... money that doesnt need to be spent. Money that could be spent on more weed.
You cant take them anywhere
It's not the same blowing out air and no smoke.
The smell and smoke is part of a atmosphere.
The high is slightly differnt.
And your not getting all the THC into your blood [obviously, otherwise you wouldnt be able to cook with the left overs]
Vapes are a great thing for medicinal reasons, but not for smoking in a group, unless the group is comprised of people who need a vape for those reasons.
Hardly any of this is true. Can't take them anywhere? Look at the HappyVappy and the Herbalaire. Both have car chargers, and are much more discreet toking from in a car than a pipe. I don't blow out air, nor smoke, but vapor, and yes I can see the whiteness of it when I exhale. There is still a smell, it's just different. The high is slightly different, and better. It burns the THC, but usually leaves CBD and CBN behind (hence why you can still cook with it, but the edibles don't usually get you high so much as sleepy). Cost? Not much more than a fancy shmancy bong. I have well over $1000 in glass pipes, bongs, bubblers, and since I got my vape, they collectively get used 5% of the time. And whoever said, try walking down the street with a vape like you would a blunt, who the fuck is stupid enough to smoke a blunt while walking down the street? Probably someone who blindly hates on vapes without doing their research...
the hate against vaporizers
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Originally Posted by LiquidMagik
Hardly any of this is true. Can't take them anywhere? Look at the HappyVappy and the Herbalaire. Both have car chargers, and are much more discreet toking from in a car than a pipe. I don't blow out air, nor smoke, but vapor, and yes I can see the whiteness of it when I exhale. There is still a smell, it's just different. The high is slightly different, and better. It burns the THC, but usually leaves CBD and CBN behind (hence why you can still cook with it, but the edibles don't usually get you high so much as sleepy). Cost? Not much more than a fancy shmancy bong. I have well over $1000 in glass pipes, bongs, bubblers, and since I got my vape, they collectively get used 5% of the time. And whoever said, try walking down the street with a vape like you would a blunt, who the fuck is stupid enough to smoke a blunt while walking down the street? Probably someone who blindly hates on vapes without doing their research...
None of this means anything what so ever and you know it.
Even if it's a battery vape it needs to be charged, which means it runs out of power. You can take it anywhere, not like a joint or a blunt.
And in England it's a normal thing to see people walking about with joints and blunts... but you couldnt do that with a vape.
There is no way any vape can look discreet.
I didnt say vapes were a bad thing, but i cannot see the point of wasting money on one unless you need it for medicinal reasons.
It's personal preferance, like i said, so stop trying to preach all the good reasons people should buy a vape, it's stupid.
You an idiot for bothering to write all that, it doesnt change the way people feels about vapes.
You can change the way a person thinks by stating all the good points and saying how great they are. People will smoke how they like, but the atmosphere smoking with a vape is not the same as smoking, and anyone who says it is are morons.
the hate against vaporizers
www.dominizer.com
Vapor Genie
are both portable , fairly low cost vaporizers
Vapor = more healthy than smoke
the hate against vaporizers
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Originally Posted by BobBong
www.dominizer.com
Vapor Genie
are both portable , fairly low cost vaporizers
Vapor = more healthy than smoke
They're good for people who need them for medicinal reasons but not good when smoking in a group. And the good ones cost alot, the cheap ones are either crap or dont last as long and that's what i've been told by people who love vapes.
the hate against vaporizers
Lip, if it's personal preference, then why not stop preaching all the reasons to NOT buy a vape. Also, neither the HappyVappy nor the Herbalaire are battery charged, and you can go out and buy the car adapter which changes your cig lighter into an AC outlet.
As far as wasting money, I don't care what the studies say, almost everyone who has used a vape reports getting higher from a smaller amount. So you make an investment now to save you money in the future. And if you don't see a point in people getting them unless its for medical reasons, how about to prevent those medical reasons from ever occurring?
As far as me being an idiot to write all that, what does that make you since you used almost as many characters as I did? Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black...
"People will smoke how they like, but the atmosphere smoking with a vape is not the same as smoking, and anyone who says it is are morons."
Either that or their just more open-minded than thou. So keep puffing on those joints, and in 20 years when you're sucking a blunt through your neck-hole obtained via a tracheotomy, I'll be sitting at home with my vape in one hand, and a glass of Dom in the other, toasting my good health.
the hate against vaporizers
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Originally Posted by LiquidMagik
Lip, if it's personal preference, then why not stop preaching all the reasons to NOT buy a vape. Also, neither the HappyVappy nor the Herbalaire are battery charged, and you can go out and buy the car adapter which changes your cig lighter into an AC outlet.
As far as wasting money, I don't care what the studies say, almost everyone who has used a vape reports getting higher from a smaller amount. So you make an investment now to save you money in the future. And if you don't see a point in people getting them unless its for medical reasons, how about to prevent those medical reasons from ever occurring?
As far as me being an idiot to write all that, what does that make you since you used almost as many characters as I did? Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black...
"People will smoke how they like, but the atmosphere smoking with a vape is not the same as smoking, and anyone who says it is are morons."
Either that or their just more open-minded than thou. So keep puffing on those joints, and in 20 years when you're sucking a blunt through your neck-hole obtained via a tracheotomy, I'll be sitting at home with my vape in one hand, and a glass of Dom in the other, toasting my good health.
It's funny, because we all know cannabis doesnt cause cancer, and i've been an extremely heavey smoker for years, and i've never had a cough from it, not to mention anything else. So in 20 years time i'll be smoking a joint like i am today... and you'll be running around to find power to vape your weed...
Personal preferance... to me vapes are a waste of time, a waste of money and a completely unsociable way to smoke.
But that doesnt mean they're not good. Especially for medincinal reasons.
But i've never heard of anyone needing a tracheotomy though cannabis use.
So really, the point of that was to scare people into liking vapes.. or at least thats how i see it... otherwise why mention it when you know it's not true?
Smoke how you like... it doesnt affect me, i still get high the way it's meant to be done ;)
the hate against vaporizers
ive never smoked an expensive vap. I did however own one of those 40-50$ ones with the glass ball and i have to say it was the worst way ive ever smoked bud, it tastes bad and the smoke leaks out while your using it so you gotta smoke the whole bowl right away, then when its ready to cash its too hot to handle for a good 10-15 mins and on top of all that my room still reeks of bud.
the hate against vaporizers
http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9808/18/marijuana.cancer/
No cannabis on it's own doesn't cause cancer. If you vaporize or eat it, you're fine. But smoking ANYTHING increases your chance for cancer. It's not just the tars in cigs that do damage to your lungs, but the actual process of smoking as well. Prior to becoming a habitual cig smoker, all I toked on was weed. Gravity bongs, regular bongs, joints, blunts, pipes, bubblers, etc. And yet every morning I'd wake up with a terrible cough, and hack up black/gray phlegm. If smoking cannabis isn't harmful, then why was this happening? No, I was not living in a polluted area, I was out in the middle of cow country. So it HAD to be the fact I was smoking my weed. Now that I've stopped smoking cigs and use my vape almost all the time, no more coughs and no more black phlegm. But I guess it's all about personal experience, and not what some study or others say, so I'll keep hitting the vape, and everyone can smoke the way they want to. It's not how you get to the end of the rainbow, as long as you get the pot of gold at the end, right?
the hate against vaporizers
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Originally Posted by Metaphor
ive never smoked an expensive vap. I did however own one of those 40-50$ ones with the glass ball and i have to say it was the worst way ive ever smoked bud, it tastes bad and the smoke leaks out while your using it so you gotta smoke the whole bowl right away, then when its ready to cash its too hot to handle for a good 10-15 mins and on top of all that my room still reeks of bud.
Yep, those are garbage. You need to spend at least $125 to get a good one, which isn't more expensive than a really nice bong. My blue dot with all the accessories ran me around $280, and my vape with all the accessories cost $249.
the hate against vaporizers
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Originally Posted by LiquidMagik
http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9808/18/marijuana.cancer/
No cannabis on it's own doesn't cause cancer. If you vaporize or eat it, you're fine. But smoking ANYTHING increases your chance for cancer. It's not just the tars in cigs that do damage to your lungs, but the actual process of smoking as well. Prior to becoming a habitual cig smoker, all I toked on was weed. Gravity bongs, regular bongs, joints, blunts, pipes, bubblers, etc. And yet every morning I'd wake up with a terrible cough, and hack up black/gray phlegm. If smoking cannabis isn't harmful, then why was this happening? No, I was not living in a polluted area, I was out in the middle of cow country. So it HAD to be the fact I was smoking my weed. Now that I've stopped smoking cigs and use my vape almost all the time, no more coughs and no more black phlegm. But I guess it's all about personal experience, and not what some study or others say, so I'll keep hitting the vape, and everyone can smoke the way they want to. It's not how you get to the end of the rainbow, as long as you get the pot of gold at the end, right?
A study of over 64000 heavy marijuana users found no direct link between heavy cannabis use over a long period of time and cancer of any kind, including lung cancer.
Smoking cannabis can kill cancerous cells.
Smoking cannabis kills free radicals which can cause cancer.
Cannabis smoke cotains carciogens, yes, but if you blow your hits out in a natural breath [3 seconds] you can expell almost all of them, while still abosrbing all the THC in the smoke.
No one has EVER developed cancer from cannabis use alone.
No one has ever died from cannabis use alone.
Vaping is not the safest way.
Smoking is not the safest way.
Eating is the safest way, but concidering theres no proof that smoking cannabis can increase your chances i wouldnt worry about it too much.
And i find it hard to belive you were coughing black phelm up. Irecently quit cigs and i was a 40 a day smoker for more years than i care to remember, and i never once coughed up black or grey phlem, a never really coughed. And all that time i was smoking cannabis as well. So you must have very weak lungs.
It's never done me no harm what so ever, and i dont think vapes are good enough to spend that amount of money on.
The most i've ever spent on smoking appartus is about £60. Nothing is worth anymore than that, at all.
Like i said, it doesnt bother me how you get high, but i'll continue to smoke it.
But as you said, the goal is to get high... by what ever means necessary.
